Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hello Drasko, the radiation from fluorescent lights is quite good measurable. The harmfull ingredients are the magnetic alternating fields, and they can be quite strong. In our building we had long fluorescent lights; I measured 70-90 nT (nano Tesla) With the renovating works, they have replaced them with shorter ones, (with fluorescent lamp ballasts), and I measured now 8.000 nT. (The architect thinks that I am a fool by pointing at this!) One may observe in shops, where they have a lot of fluorescent lights, and where they have lowered them on chains from the ceiling, that people run away after 10-30 minutes exposure. We have supermarkets (like Lidl), where the light are hanging about half a meter above the heads of the customers. Yesterday, I was in a do-it-yourself shop. The light hang about 2 meters high. Some only measured 70 nT, others 300 nT. I measured with my arm outstretched, with a 3D Teslameter. Electrosensible people may react also to normal light bulbs, hanging over a dinner table, etc. I have an automatic coffee espresso machine; coffe beans and water, and the espresso is coming out. Even when the machine is on *out*, it gives 6.500 nT. Turning the plug does not help. Only pulling the plug (or placing a plug with a switch that closes both pins, can help here). Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ checked by Norton Antivirus theory > I have just been to a supermarket with fluorescent lights, and as always felt very uncomfortable there. My wife who is not (much) ES feels the same but to smaller extent... That makes me wonder more about the ES phenomenon... > > As we know (please correct if I am wrong!), fluorescent lights make no measurable radiation at the distance of 2 meters (the usual distance between the lights in supermarkets and the heads of customers). So what is the problem than? I see just two possible answers: > > 1. As we have spoken before, not the radiation itself is what discomfort us, but something else, what is just related to radiation somehow ( " longitudinal waves " , positive ions... or whatever). > > 2. Fluorescent lights flicker and make light oscillations, and that light oscillations annoy our nervous system. > According to some my correspondence of many years ago, some compare ES symptoms with epileptic seizures (a " tre petit mal " - " very little attack " ). Epileptic seizures are efficiently induced by a flickering light (at neurologist's ordinations etc.) Also, I was told that anti-epileptic drugs help reduce ES manifestations (but I never tried, although I am planning to). > This theory looks sane to me, as that would have matched many other observations, including the fact that pulsed radiation is definitively found more problematic than continuous one... I am very inclined to theory that at extremely low levels, radiation is not any problem by itself, but by it's virtue to carry an information - particularly a malicious frequency that the brain unfortunately (dis)synchronizes with... > > By the way, I have seen in the list of the members of this list the address of a doctor who's opinion on this particular issue could be very interesting, but as he remains silent, I am not going to name him. I would have appreciated his comments either to the list or directly to my address. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Now that's interesting, Mo. Thanks for posting the concept. And you sparked me on a research avenue. But maybe you can save me some time... Sunday, April 02, 2006, 7:18:38 AM, NOVAexeter wrote: N> I find myself wondering about candida and stress. Not surprising N> since I am living with both, lol So here's the theory. We are N> told that stress is one thing that can cause candida I haven't read that too much but have pretty much believed it for years. N> and my guess N> is that the way it does this is through raised stress-induced N> cortisol. I'd guess that can be true for systemic infection. But the immune system does not operate inside the intestines, so I'm thinking something like pH there. I think it's pretty clear and simple that there are no clear and simple answers to any of this N> So we our normal far=from-perfect lifestyle and food N> choices the gut balance is upset. I'd think that a trigger occurs which exploits an underlying vulnerability. That's my casual theory. That is: Why am I different from people who swill sugar all day every day and have no candida problem? N> Along come some major stresses, N> cortisol rises and if my theory is correct, this has the same N> effect on the candida as taking cortisone If I'm not mistaken, hydrocortisone is the name for synthetic cortisone taken as a drug, whereas cortisol is the exact same molecule which is created in the body. Correct? N> i.e. encourages candida N> to proliferate. Immune system dysregulation could flow on from this N> situation which further allows the candida (and God knows what N> else) to flourish. -- Regards, A.B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 In a message dated 09/04/2006 05:34:05 GMT Daylight Time, abgnal@... writes: Good morning to you, Thanks for your response. I'd guess that can be true for systemic infection. But the immune system does not operate inside the intestines, so I'm thinking something like pH there. The immune system does not operate inside the intestines huh? OK. Now I am stuck. My theory has been blown out of the water if the immune response is not responsible for allowing candida to flourish. My PH is good by the way - I checked that just before I discovered this current candida infection. I think it's pretty clear and simple that there are no clear and simple answers to any of this I am hoping that there are but that they are yet to be unearthed. I'd think that a trigger occurs which exploits an underlying vulnerability. That's my casual theory. That is: Why am I different from people who swill sugar all day every day and have no candida problem? I would have thought it was because you have a weakened immune response but if the immune system does not operate in the gut, as you say, then I am stumped. For now, lol! If I'm not mistaken, hydrocortisone is the name for synthetic cortisone taken as a drug, whereas cortisol is the exact same molecule which is created in the body. Correct? Correct. Anyone out there with further thoughts on this matter? Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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