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Just an FYI -- My derm told me never to use corn starch because it is food and

makes a perfect medium for bacteria and fungus to grow. He said talc is not. I

know there will be a lot of disagreement, I like the feel of corn starch too.

Cheri

[ ] Re: Inverse Psoriasis

I didn't know it was Psoriasis - but I have had it under the 'apron'

we portly souls get. It did not respond to the yeast creams the gyn.

prescrtibed. But washing it, drying it and powdering it with corn

starch (baking aisle in the grocery store) frequently has done

wonders. Sometimes the simple things are the best - one medication I

tried worsened it and . . . Well, lets just say it worsened it.

With a 'corny' solution, JudiRose

> Hi, I've been observing this site for about a year. I'm an observer

> since " lurker " seems illegal. I have had inverse pshoriasis here

and

> there for a number of years. I have found a very effective

teatment.

> Use and astringent like " Sea Breeze " (in any drug store) on a

cotton

> ball an swab the area frequently. It will hurt like hell the first

> time but if you can stand the inital pain it gets less painful with

> each application. You will noice a difference right away and in a

few

> days be much better. This will get the site to heal but is not a

> permanent solution . Mine (in the groin) is worst in summer. Also I

> have P. in the ear canal as I've read others do too. I dip a Q Tip

in

> the Astringent and swab the outer ear area. It controls the P.

well.

> If I didn't use it on my ears they would soon fill with flakes. I

> have also had success using this on patches of P. under my

eyebrows.

> I have P.A. in the toes and lightly in the hands and am taking MTX

> with moderate success. Good luck to you all.

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I have been using topical tacrolimus ointment for those hard to

treat, sensitive areas such as skin folds, etc -- with great

success. I combine it with dovonex (covered with plastic wrap at

night). See: http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/7846.htm :

TACROLIMUS FOR PSORIASIS AND ATOPIC DERMATITIS

Gabe Mirkin, M.D.

Exciting research shows that tacrolimus, a drug that is used to treat

patients who receive heart, lung and kidney transplants, helps to

control psoriasis and atopic dermatitis, two serious skin diseases

that can be difficult to control with safe medications.

Atopic dermatitis and psoriasis are associated with an overactive

immune system that causes horrible itching and redness that can cause

open sores in the skin. These diseases respond poorly to topical

medications, so doctors often prescribe potent drugs, such as

prednisone and methotrexate, that supress the immunity and increase a

person's chances of getting infections. When the new drug,

Tacrolimus, is taken as a pill, it suppresses immunity and increases

risk for infections, but tacrolimus ointment is far safer. Doctors

have successfully treated both psoriasis and atopic dermatitis with

by applying daily a .03% ointment made by adding a single 1 mg pill

of tacrolimus to one ounce of Vaseline. The ointment is even more

effective when covered with saran wrap.

1) T Ruzicka, T Assmann, B Homey. Tacrolimus - The drug for the turn

of the millennium? Archives of Dermatology, 1999, Vol 135, Iss 5, pp

574-580..

2) Boguniewicz M , Fiedler VC , Raimer S , Lawrence ID , Leung DY ,

Hanifin JM . National Jewish Medical and Research Center and the

Department of Pediatrics, University of Colorado Health Sciences

Center, Denver, USA. J Allergy Clin Immunol 1998 Oct;102(4 Pt 1):637-

44 .

3) Ruzicka T , Bieber T , Schopf E , Rubins A , Dobozy A , Bos JD ,

Jablonska S , Ahmed I , Thestrup-Pedersen K , F , Finzi A ,

Reitamo S. Department of Dermatology at Heinrich Heine University,

Dusseldorf, Germany. N Engl J Med 1997 Sep 18;337(12):816-21 .

4) Alaiti S , Kang S , Fiedler VC , Ellis CN , Spurlin DV , Fader D ,

Ulyanov G , Gadgil SD , Tanase A , Lawrence I , Scotellaro P , Raye

K , Bekersky I Department of Dermatology, University of Illinois at

Chicago, 60612, USA. J Am Acad Dermatol 1998 Jan;38(1):69-76 .

5) Meffert H , Brautigam M , Farber L , Weidinger G Department of

Dermatology, Humboldt-Universitat, Charite, Berlin, Germany. Acta

Derm Venereol 1997 Mar;77(2):137-41 .

6) Omega-3 fatty acid-based lipid infusion in patients with chronic

plaque psoriasis: results of a double-blind, randomized, placebo-

controlled, multicenter trial [published erratum appears in J Am Acad

Dermatol 1998 Sep;39(3):421]

7) Mayser P , Mrowietz U , Arenberger P , Bartak P , Buchvald J ,

s E , Jablonska S , Salmhofer W , Schill WB , Kramer HJ ,

Schlotzer E , Mayer K , Seeger W , Grimminger F .Department of

Dermatology and Andrology, Justus Liebig University Giessen, Germany.

J Am Acad Dermatol 1998 Apr;38(4):539-47 .

8) Effectiveness of the ascomycin macrolactam SDZ ASM 981 in the

topical treatment off atopic dermatitis. Van Leent EJ , Graber M ,

Thurston M , Wagenaar A , Spuls PI , Bos JD. Arch Dermatol 1998

Jul;134(7):805-9..

9)Mrowietz U , Graeber M , Brautigam M , Thurston M , Wagenaar A ,

Weidinger G , s E . Department of Dermatology, University

of Kiel, Germany. umrowietz@.... Br J Dermatol

1998 Dec;139(6):992-6

>

> Cheri

> [ ] Re: Inverse Psoriasis

>

>

> I didn't know it was Psoriasis - but I have had it under

the 'apron'

> we portly souls get. It did not respond to the yeast creams the

gyn.

> prescrtibed. But washing it, drying it and powdering it with corn

> starch (baking aisle in the grocery store) frequently has done

> wonders. Sometimes the simple things are the best - one

medication I

> tried worsened it and . . . Well, lets just say it worsened it.

>

> With a 'corny' solution, JudiRose

>

>

> > Hi, I've been observing this site for about a year. I'm an

observer

> > since " lurker " seems illegal. I have had inverse pshoriasis

here

> and

> > there for a number of years. I have found a very effective

> teatment.

> > Use and astringent like " Sea Breeze " (in any drug store) on a

> cotton

> > ball an swab the area frequently. It will hurt like hell the

first

> > time but if you can stand the inital pain it gets less painful

with

> > each application. You will noice a difference right away and in

a

> few

> > days be much better. This will get the site to heal but is not

a

> > permanent solution . Mine (in the groin) is worst in summer.

Also I

> > have P. in the ear canal as I've read others do too. I dip a Q

Tip

> in

> > the Astringent and swab the outer ear area. It controls the P.

> well.

> > If I didn't use it on my ears they would soon fill with flakes.

I

> > have also had success using this on patches of P. under my

> eyebrows.

> > I have P.A. in the toes and lightly in the hands and am taking

MTX

> > with moderate success. Good luck to you all.

>

>

>

>

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Hi All, Sorry it took me so long to respond to all the responses my

post received. I've been so busy and tired, drained feeling. I will

definitely try the corn starch, hair drier, Sea Breeze, and tuck

something like cotton or a small pad in places. Nystatin and

Triamcinalone, Tar gel, and Cyclocort didn't work. Something has got

to make a difference. This has gone on way too long without

sucessful treatment. The tar gel is definitely a strong irritant.

Maybe the alcohol content of seabreeze is what makes it work. I

thought it may have been yeast before seeing the dermatologist. He

even tried an antifungal pill ( Nizoral ) and it did seem to help

some but he said it was definitely Inverse Psoriasis. I'm so glad to

know I'm not the only one with P in all those sensitive areas. Their

location makes it the most difficult of P to treat. Every thing

seems to set it on fire. Thanks for all your help. Cassie

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Haven't logged onto this site for a while, and have just learned

about the problem, which I seem to have in 3 or 4 places on my body.

I thought it was a " heat/moisture " rash. I have been applying an

anti-perspirant to the affected areas on a daily basis, and it seems

to help. Looking back, I've had it for years, before the PA was even

diagnosed.

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> > Haven't logged onto this site for a while, and have just learned

> > about the problem, which I seem to have in 3 or 4 places on my

> body.

> > I thought it was a " heat/moisture " rash. I have been applying an

> > anti-perspirant to the affected areas on a daily basis, and it

> seems

> > to help. Looking back, I've had it for years, before the PA was

> even

> > diagnosed.

I'm not sure how to reply to a message, but here goes. Please check

message #33437, it explains Inverse psoriasis. this is the first I've

heard of it also, but realize I do have the problem. Hope this helps,

and I could use help on replying to messages and proper posting

messages. Thanks.

Billie

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but in general, it seems like if people wish to respond generally to a previous

post, they insert the cursor above the post they are responding to, and " bump it

down " to give themselves room on top to start writing. That makes sense, that

the most recent post would be on top; that's the way it is in the business

world, too. Butif someone wants to respond specifically to something in the

previous post, they will often position the relevant portion of the old post

above their response. That makes sense, especially from the readers' view (so

the reader doesn't have to go hunting for what they're referring to).

" [Editor's Notes " , from the moderators, are generally placed below the most

recent post in the string.

As to proper posting: If it's something new, and not a response, just hit the

" post " link in the gray box to the left of the entry window.

Hope this helps...

D.]

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