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Not to mix up gloucosamine and glutamine. If glutamine is supposed to help

leaky gut, i think glucosamine is a compound of glucose + glutamine,

commonly adviced for joint/arthritic pain. So it's perhaps the presence of

glucose in glucosamine that might be a concern with candida

At 11:25 15/09/01 +0200, you wrote:

>Hi everybody,

>

>Glucosamine was prescribed to me, because it is supposed to be helpful with

>the Leaky Gut Syndrom. They said it repairs the walls.

>

>

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> I've had 2-3 people tell me about glucosamine, and how it actually

works. So, I've been hoping to hear some discussion

> on this, but I dont remember seeing any responses. Its hard to

just *believe* excited sounding claims... when thats

> the same high energy gleam people get in their eye about any number

of health food products.

>

> BOb Mckee

> Atlanta & Chicago

>

> -------------

>

> From: Nic Oliver <impact@s...>

>

> > Could Dr Siff, or anyone else help?

> >

> > There has been a lot of hype recently about using supplements

such as

> > Glucosamine and Chrondrolin to ease the effects of sore joints.

> >

> > 1. What is the research evidence?

> >

> > 2. In what quantities should each be taken?

Hi Bob,

I can't tell you the reason why glucosamine sulfate works but I do

know that it has helped me and a few others in the gym who had

terrible shoulder aches. Try to get the kind that contains 500 mg of

glucosamine sulfate, 50 mg of devil's claw and 50mg of cat's claw in

it as the last two ingredients help maximize the effect of the

glucosamine. The recommended dosage is to take 2 to 3 capsules daily,

preferably taken with water at breakfast. Hope I was of any help

Andre Giroux

Port-Cartier, Quebec

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> I've had 2-3 people tell me about glucosamine, and how it actually

works. So, I've been hoping to hear some discussion

> on this, but I dont remember seeing any responses. Its hard to

just *believe* excited sounding claims... when thats

> the same high energy gleam people get in their eye about any number

of health food products.

>

> BOb Mckee

> Atlanta & Chicago

>

> -------------

>

> From: Nic Oliver <impact@s...>

>

> > Could Dr Siff, or anyone else help?

> >

> > There has been a lot of hype recently about using supplements

such as

> > Glucosamine and Chrondrolin to ease the effects of sore joints.

> >

> > 1. What is the research evidence?

> >

> > 2. In what quantities should each be taken?

Hi Bob,

I can't tell you the reason why glucosamine sulfate works but I do

know that it has helped me and a few others in the gym who had

terrible shoulder aches. Try to get the kind that contains 500 mg of

glucosamine sulfate, 50 mg of devil's claw and 50mg of cat's claw in

it as the last two ingredients help maximize the effect of the

glucosamine. The recommended dosage is to take 2 to 3 capsules daily,

preferably taken with water at breakfast. Hope I was of any help

Andre Giroux

Port-Cartier, Quebec

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> > I've had 2-3 people tell me about glucosamine, and how it

actually works. So, I've been hoping to hear some discussion

on this, but I dont remember seeing any responses. Its hard to

just *believe* excited sounding claims... when thats

the same high energy gleam people get in their eye about any number

of health food products.

> > BOb Mckee

> > Atlanta & Chicago

> > From: Nic Oliver <impact@s...>

> Could Dr Siff, or anyone else help?

> There has been a lot of hype recently about using supplements

> such as

> Glucosamine and Chrondrolin to ease the effects of sore joints.

> >1. What is the research evidence?

2. In what quantities should each be taken?

***I tried glucosamine about a year ago for a knee injury and know a

number of other athletes from bodybuilders, rugby players and

powerlifters who have taken the supplement. I believe glucosamine is

a form of an amino sugar that is believed to play a role in cartilage

formation and repair found in crab, lobster or shrimp shells, but it

is also found naturally in the body (not 100% sure). I wasn't as

critical then as I am now of the work (articles) I read. I know it

is advocated for individuals with osteoarthritis I believe it may

rebuild damaged joints, tendons, cartilage and soft tissue to a

certain extent.

There are several forms glucosamine sulfate (seems to work better due

to the molecular structure -smaller) or glucosamine hydrochloride,

yet most of the research has been completed and products contain

glucosamine sulfate.

My personal experience is always read the label of the supplement you

are buying many of the companies products don't contain sufficient

quantities of the substances (try to scam you!). Also try and buy

from a reputable company - or you never know what you'll get!! I can

remember one of my friends buying some creatine from a health food

shop - or so it said it was creatine - there was no way on this

planet it was creatine (he was ill).

I believe in the UK and the US nutritional supplements are not tested

or regulated as prescriptions are. Tests have shown that some

supplements did not contain the amount of glucosamine promised on the

label (e.g same with the ephedra / nutritional bars etc etc). All

power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely or so they say!

How much? From the work I have read Glucosamine sulphate, chrondoitin

sulphate and vitamin C seem to combine well. (absorption reasons)

How much per day?

3000mg-1500mg of glucosamine sulphate

1500mg-1200mg of chrondoitin sulphate

1000mg-2000mg of vitamin C

What was quite interesting was the response level to the supplements

(individuals I knew) younger people it seemed to worked very

effectively yet older individuals it seemed to take longer to respond

to the supplements. Others didn't think it worked that affectively

yet Flaxseed oil and GLA (Evening primrose) seem to work - I suppose

it depends on a number of factors.

Thats my little contribution, hope it helps!

Carruthers

Wakefield

UK

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My doctor just suggested it. I took it years ago, but who knows if it works

or not. With this type of A, symptoms come and go with little reason. I

have added it back because my doctor suggested it. It can't hurt?

Ks Di

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, in the very early stages Glucosamine and the Chondroitin Sulfate

combination was very helpful for me but I was allergic to it so only took it for

2 weeks. At that point I was not dx'd but I'm sure I was in early stages and it

made my joints feel wonderful. My sister also took it for joint pain and found

it fabulous. Personally I feel it may help for a while but I suggest you talk

to your doctor about it and do not discontinue traditional medicine while you

try it. My first doc said that with PA you have to stay on top of it or it can

cause severe damage and 3 1/2 years into it I believe him. Cheri :-))

[ ] Glucosamine?

Hi everyone,

With all the hype around Glucosamine as a natural treatment for

osteoarthritis I was wondering if anyone here has tried it and

whether they found any benefit?

Ive had PA since I was 24 so thats 7 years and I have tried many

things. Im currently on 20mg weekly of MTX and have just stopped

taking Celebrex and now take Piroxicam (NSAID).

Cheers

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That's the first time I've heard about blood sugar levels being affected by

glucosamine. Thanks for the info. I would add one more caution on the use of

glucosamine chondroitin. If you had joints pinned or otherwise fused then the

additional growth of cartilage has no place to go and may cause nerve

impingement. This happened to my dad. He had polio as a child and had a strip

of bone

taken from a shin to bridge across several vertabrae that were severly

misaligned from scoliosis. The bridge was to provide vertical support between

his

lower back and shoulder girdle. Each of these vertibrae have the normal

cartilagenous disc between them but do not experience the multiple compressions

daily

that weight bearing spinal joints would. As result of the increased cartilage

growth from glucosamine the discs swelled and caused the curvature of his spine

to increase to the point that non-exercized tendons failed and allowed for the

nerves in the spinal chord to be pinched. The consequences for a similar

reaction in a fused finger or wrist joint may not be so dire but for those with

fusion of vertebrae I would urge caution. He spent a month in-patient at a

physical rehab hospital You can look at his x-rays from 1978 when he had an

artificial hip put in compared to the ones when he had the back problem and see

a

striking difference in the diameter of the loop that the curve in his spine

takes. He had been using glucosamine for about a year and a half before the

incident. His situation is quite unusual and the doctors werent ready to say

that

the glucosamine was at fault but the doctors were at a loss to explain why at

a time in life when most people actually have shrinking of the vertebral

column and shortening of height (early 60's) he would actually have been growing

in

height if the vertebrae had been in line atop one another.

So I could make several statements about glucosamine chondroitin.

Yes it can help to increase cartiledge production.

In certain conditions perhaps increased cartiledge production will do more

harm than good.

The chances of having a negative result from taking glucosamine chondroitin

may be greater in those with inflamatory arthritic conditions like PA/RA due to

increasing the growth rate of diseased cartiledge as opposed to patients with

osteo-arthritis where the pain is caused from a lack of cartiledge and normal

wear and tear of cartiledge from long and active use of the joint.

Bottom line; If you suffer osteoarthritis or had a recent tear of joint

cartiledge due to a football injury then the use of glucosamine chondroitin

might

be highly beneficial. But if you have fused joints or TMJ then be careful about

increasing the growth rate of cartiledge. Orin

In a message dated 2/8/05 11:33:54 AM Central Standard Time,

janekarsten@... writes:

Hi, just adding a comment that anyone with a " sugar "

problem would want to stay away from Glucosamine. My

mother took it for a couple of years, and felt it was

helpful, however, she developed a pre-diabetic

condition, which disappeared after stopping it.

warm blessings,

jane

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