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I read your post where you mentioned several foods that contributed to flares

barbecued ribs, seasoned home fries, salsa and gummy bears If you will send

it I would like to see a list of the ingredients in those foods. As I was

reading the post I thought it may be a reaction to cumin (cuminos) but I

dont think theres any of that in gummy bears ha ha which are mostly gelatin,

sugar and some type of oil. It may be that the bears contained something

else that you are sensitive to. One thing I can think of that may be common

in all the things you listed is thickening gums such as carageenan, guar,

carob and xanthan. Do you have a problem with ice cream? most ice creams

have carageenan or guar gum. Orin

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In a message dated 8/18/02 3:49:05 PM Central Daylight Time,

sunnie33971@... writes:

> I am going to keep on doing what I am doing and see if it helps. Even if it

> does not make it go away altogether just having less pain would be great.

>

> Thanks for offering your help.

>

Youre welcome. I've tried eliminating many foods milk/cheese, bread/wheat

etc and the only dietary restriction I found to possibly be beneficial to me

is avoidance of hydrogenated oils. That is a tough one cause it is nearly all

prepared foods from mayonaise to little debbie snacks to pizza to hamburger

helper so I cheat a lot and eat it anyway. I am not fully convinced that it

is a culprit but just as you I am still making efforts to find what is good

for me and what isnt. If you positively prove any problem food please do let

us know. Orin

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what is kt?

orinok@... wrote:I read your post where you mentioned several foods that

contributed to flares

barbecued ribs, seasoned home fries, salsa and gummy bears If you will send

it I would like to see a list of the ingredients in those foods. As I was

reading the post I thought it may be a reaction to cumin (cuminos) but I

dont think theres any of that in gummy bears ha ha which are mostly gelatin,

sugar and some type of oil. It may be that the bears contained something

else that you are sensitive to. One thing I can think of that may be common

in all the things you listed is thickening gums such as carageenan, guar,

carob and xanthan. Do you have a problem with ice cream? most ice creams

have carageenan or guar gum. Orin

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Wish I could give you a list. I gave all the barbecue sauce away. Gave up

eating in that restaurant and I think with gummy bears it is the dye as all of

them have dyes in them. I dont have a problem with ice cream or dairy products

but gave them up also. I do soy milk when I eat cereal. I still think it is the

hot peppers. I also like Mangos but lately when I eat them I have a nasty

feeling in my mouth. I do not react to poison ivy as people who do are not

suppose to eat mangoes. In the same family. I love it but going to give that up.

There are to many tasty foods on the market to take a chance with one that I

like. Not being a fussy eater helps a lot also.

The only thing i can figure is it has to be the hot peppers. Salsa. barbecue

sauce and the potatos had something hot in it aside of black pepper. I am going

to keep on doing what I am doing and see if it helps. Even if it does not make

it go away altogether just having less pain would be great.

Thanks for offering your help.

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KT is Kombucha tea. It is made out of black or green or a combination of tea and

sugar along with a fungus. Now dont go ewww. :) The fungus is just a cream

colored disk. Not slimy or anything. It uses the sugar to make a Soby(baby) and

also to feed on. The resulting tea can taste like apple cider, champagne and an

assortment of other flavors. So anyway you boil water for 5 minutes with the

right amount of sugar in it. Then the tea bags are put in and let it cool until

room temp. I have a constant brew going so I take the brew that is done and put

in a jar in the frig and leave some on bottom with the Soby. In about a week

another batch is done. The most important thing about this whole thing is

sanitation. If one does not keep the area, containers and hands clean it will

cause the scoby to die off. Once one gets one of these one will always have

spare ones on hand. You should check out the Kombachu web site. I believe this

will take you to the web site. http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/. I was not sure I

could believe what I read but all I had to put out was $15 and I did not

consider that a lot of money.....if it worked. I really do believe it is helping

me out. I know it will take a while for my body to get detoxed as it is in rough

shape but I do know that I feel so much better when I use the tea.

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Ya know it's funny in a way because I have read articles saying that hot and

spicy foods is good for people with psoriasis to consume. It is supposed to

help with inflammation and reduce scaling. Do you also react badly to icy/hot

(somewhat the same) or any type of capsacin? It could just be that you are

allergic to some type of pepper or herb. Anyway just thought I would through my

two cents in.

hugs,

ali

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Dear Sunnie,

I see a more obvious common denominator in the foods that have given you a

problem (with the exception of the gummy bears.)

The barbecue sauce, no doubt is tomato based, as was the salsa. Tomatoes are

of the nightshade family. Potatoes (the homefries) are also of the

nightshade family. So are all eggplants and peppers (I mean the produce, not

the spice.)

There are many who believe that in a diet that is beneficial for arthritis

sufferers, all nightshade vegetables are eliminated. Fishes, especially

those high in Omega-3 fatty acids should not be eliminated, as Omega-3 fatty

acids have an anti-inflammatory property.

Ground black pepper, white pepper and cayenne peppers, contain capsacin,

which also is an anti-inflammatory--it probably did nothing to cause a flare

up.

The barbecue, homefries and salsa may also have been high in sodium, which

combined with a flare, contribute to edema and can make you even more

uncomfortable. Try to watch your salt intake as well.

Try keeping a diary of everything you eat and see if any tomato based

products (even ketchup) are factors in your flare ups.

My PA was not improved by eliminating nightshade foods, but everyone has

there own triggers. My neighbor has eliminated all nightshades and swears by

it. I have a book ( " The Arthritis Relief Diet " by Dr. Scala. I am no

longer using it. If you would like for me to send it to you, e-mail me

directly with a mailing address at lotsoshoes@....

Tammy in Phila

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In a message dated 8/18/02 7:05:14 PM Central Daylight Time,

sunglow21@... writes:

> Ya know it's funny in a way because I have read articles saying that hot and

> spicy foods is good for people with psoriasis to consume. It is supposed

> to help with inflammation and reduce scaling. Do you also react badly to

> icy/hot (somewhat the same) or any type of capsacin? It could just be that

> you are allergic to some type of pepper or herb. Anyway just thought I

> would through my two cents in.

> hugs,

> ali

>

I've seen conflicting advice on the use of pepper as far as psor goes. Some

studies show that eating hot peppers reduces pain sensitivity which can be

beneficail to arthritis in general. Other texts suggest that pepper may

aggravate psor I dont know who to beleive on this one. I say if you like

some hot peppers once in a while eat them I cant tell a difference one way

or another. Now back on topic Theres fungus among us! That stuff sounds

kinda weird to me but hey fungus is what makes penecillin. Orin

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> I read your post where you mentioned several foods that

contributed to flares barbecued ribs, seasoned home fries, salsa

and gummy bears If you will send One thing I can think of that may

be common in all the things you listed is thickening gums such as

carageenan, guar, carob and xanthan. Do you have a problem with ice

cream? most ice creams have carageenan or guar gum.

The common chemical known to cause flares is MSG!!!

These ALWAYS contain MSG:

Glutamate, Glutamic acid, Gelatin, Monosodium glutamate, Calcium

caseinate, Textured protein, Monopotassium glutamate, Sodium

caseinate, Yeast nutrient Yeast extract, Yeast food, Autolyzed

yeast, Hydrolyzed protein (any protein that is hydrolyzed)

These OFTEN contain MSG or create MSG during processing:

Carrageenan, Maltodextrin, Malt extract

Natural pork flavoring, Broth, Malt flavoring

Bouillon, Natural chicken flavoring, Soy protein isolate

Natural beef flavoring, Ultra-pasteurized, Soy sauce

Stock, Barley malt, Soy sauce extract

Whey protein concentrate, Pectin, Soy protein

Whey protein, Protease, Soy protein concentrate

Whey protein isolate, Protease enzymes, Anything protein fortified

Flavors(s) & Flavoring(s), Anything enzyme modified, Anything

fermented

Natural flavor(s) & flavoring(s) Enzymes anything

Most Fast Food places are packed with it, because it's the cheapest

way to enhance the flavors. " Follow the money. "

Hank

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So far the only things I have reacted to are the ones I mentioned. I was not

paying much attention to it before I decided to clean up my body so maybe I will

find more things. Will keep a Diary. :)

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