Re: Very confused, yeast or SPD?

[Guest guest]

Sounds a lot like chemical sensitivity to me.

Try some emulsified oregano oil or give him grapefruit juice several times a

day, and/or

give him naicinamide 250-500 mg 3-4 times a day.

Also if he hasn't had an EEG, see if you can get him one, if he has had it, get

the

neurologist's intepretive report and don't believe anything any doctor tells you

about it -

you want the page or 2 letter report the neurologist wrote summarizing the EEG

findings.

This will be in his chart at whichever doctor did the EEG and the one that

referred him for

it.

Andy

>

> My son has been treated biomedically by Pfeiffer but lately we have

> seen little results and have been tapering off the medications. He

> recently was treated with Diflucan (which worked great and we saw

> immense changes) but we are now seeing a lot of his sensory issues back.

>

> His teachers seem to think it is related to the holidays and

> overstimulation (he is hypersensitive and always on guard and on the

> move...never able to calm himself even when I try to help he fights).

>

> We saw a neuropsych last Friday who states that his problems are all

> SPD related but I am wondering if his yeast issues are still plaguing

> him, as I see a lot of similar behaviors. Unfortunately, I can not

> tell the difference between behavior related and sensory related

> because he can't stop his behaviors due to his FAS/impulsiveness.

>

> scratching head, walls, furniture, us

> licking

> spinning

> throat noises

> screaming

> huge increase in aggressiveness (hitting, kicking, pinching,

> scratching, and self talk (he talks his way through the violent thoughts)

> impulsiveness

> incessant laughter

> fantasy land if stressed

> nonstop chatter

> hyperactivity and restlessness...can't sit still for more than a

> second and can't concentrate

>

> We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great results but

> then about a week after treatment things started downhill again. He is

> on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited diet

> Feingold diet

>

> Is he still in die-off or should we request more testing and medication?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great results but

> then about a week after treatment things started downhill again. He is

> on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited diet

> Feingold diet

A lot of those symptoms were yeast for my son. He needed to be treated for yeast

all the

time for years, no breaks, no matter what diet he was on. Not Diflucan all the

time though --

I used GSE, oil of oregano, Biocidin, Thorne's SF722, and tanalbit. I rotated

every few weeks

but Andy later pointed out that rotating only give the yeast a chance to bounce

back, so if I

had it to do over again I'd find 2-3 things that work and stick with them.

What finally got rid of yeast was getting through enough chelation. By abut

round 50-60 it

was quite manageable.

Nell

[Guest guest]

My son has been on varying antifungals for a year now. We rotate the ones he's

on under

the supervision of his DAN! Doctor. He does great on, regresses almost

immediately when

off. What they are finding is, the yeast (or whatever organism is the issue)

grows a biofilm

on top of themselves, so the antifungals can keep it down, but whenever you

stop, you

get it right back. They are developing a new protocol for this involving

stripping the

biofilm, killing the yeast, then using charcoal for the clean up. This might be

why your

child did well on the diflucan, but the issue came right back. We have yet to

start it, there

were a few other things that came up in the testing that we have to take care of

first.

/message/213277

It should be approached cautiously as with everything, but we're doing this with

our DAN!

doctor, whom we trust completely.

> >

> > My son has been treated biomedically by Pfeiffer but lately we have

> > seen little results and have been tapering off the medications. He

> > recently was treated with Diflucan (which worked great and we saw

> > immense changes) but we are now seeing a lot of his sensory issues back.

> >

> > His teachers seem to think it is related to the holidays and

> > overstimulation (he is hypersensitive and always on guard and on the

> > move...never able to calm himself even when I try to help he fights).

> >

> > We saw a neuropsych last Friday who states that his problems are all

> > SPD related but I am wondering if his yeast issues are still plaguing

> > him, as I see a lot of similar behaviors. Unfortunately, I can not

> > tell the difference between behavior related and sensory related

> > because he can't stop his behaviors due to his FAS/impulsiveness.

> >

> > scratching head, walls, furniture, us

> > licking

> > spinning

> > throat noises

> > screaming

> > huge increase in aggressiveness (hitting, kicking, pinching,

> > scratching, and self talk (he talks his way through the violent thoughts)

> > impulsiveness

> > incessant laughter

> > fantasy land if stressed

> > nonstop chatter

> > hyperactivity and restlessness...can't sit still for more than a

> > second and can't concentrate

> >

> > We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great results but

> > then about a week after treatment things started downhill again. He is

> > on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited diet

> > Feingold diet

> >

> > Is he still in die-off or should we request more testing and medication?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Is this the one where they use Mucostop enzymes? What is the timing of the

chelator and what chelator do they suggest using?

[ ] Re: Very confused, yeast or SPD?

My son has been on varying antifungals for a year now. We rotate the ones he's

on under

the supervision of his DAN! Doctor. He does great on, regresses almost

immediately when

off. What they are finding is, the yeast (or whatever organism is the issue)

grows a biofilm

on top of themselves, so the antifungals can keep it down, but whenever you

stop, you

get it right back. They are developing a new protocol for this involving

stripping the

biofilm, killing the yeast, then using charcoal for the clean up. This might

be why your

child did well on the diflucan, but the issue came right back. We have yet to

start it, there

were a few other things that came up in the testing that we have to take care

of first.

/message/213277

It should be approached cautiously as with everything, but we're doing this

with our DAN!

doctor, whom we trust completely.

> >

> > My son has been treated biomedically by Pfeiffer but lately we have

> > seen little results and have been tapering off the medications. He

> > recently was treated with Diflucan (which worked great and we saw

> > immense changes) but we are now seeing a lot of his sensory issues back.

> >

> > His teachers seem to think it is related to the holidays and

> > overstimulation (he is hypersensitive and always on guard and on the

> > move...never able to calm himself even when I try to help he fights).

> >

> > We saw a neuropsych last Friday who states that his problems are all

> > SPD related but I am wondering if his yeast issues are still plaguing

> > him, as I see a lot of similar behaviors. Unfortunately, I can not

> > tell the difference between behavior related and sensory related

> > because he can't stop his behaviors due to his FAS/impulsiveness.

> >

> > scratching head, walls, furniture, us

> > licking

> > spinning

> > throat noises

> > screaming

> > huge increase in aggressiveness (hitting, kicking, pinching,

> > scratching, and self talk (he talks his way through the violent thoughts)

> > impulsiveness

> > incessant laughter

> > fantasy land if stressed

> > nonstop chatter

> > hyperactivity and restlessness...can't sit still for more than a

> > second and can't concentrate

> >

> > We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great results but

> > then about a week after treatment things started downhill again. He is

> > on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited diet

> > Feingold diet

> >

> > Is he still in die-off or should we request more testing and medication?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

He can't have oregano or grapefruit. Are those the same as the oils?

What does a chemical sensitivity look like and what chemicals should I

be looking for?

What is naicimamide?

And, what would I look for in the EEG?

> >

> > My son has been treated biomedically by Pfeiffer but lately we have

> > seen little results and have been tapering off the medications. He

> > recently was treated with Diflucan (which worked great and we saw

> > immense changes) but we are now seeing a lot of his sensory issues

back.

> >

> > His teachers seem to think it is related to the holidays and

> > overstimulation (he is hypersensitive and always on guard and on the

> > move...never able to calm himself even when I try to help he fights).

> >

> > We saw a neuropsych last Friday who states that his problems are all

> > SPD related but I am wondering if his yeast issues are still plaguing

> > him, as I see a lot of similar behaviors. Unfortunately, I can not

> > tell the difference between behavior related and sensory related

> > because he can't stop his behaviors due to his FAS/impulsiveness.

> >

> > scratching head, walls, furniture, us

> > licking

> > spinning

> > throat noises

> > screaming

> > huge increase in aggressiveness (hitting, kicking, pinching,

> > scratching, and self talk (he talks his way through the violent

thoughts)

> > impulsiveness

> > incessant laughter

> > fantasy land if stressed

> > nonstop chatter

> > hyperactivity and restlessness...can't sit still for more than a

> > second and can't concentrate

> >

> > We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great results but

> > then about a week after treatment things started downhill again. He is

> > on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited diet

> > Feingold diet

> >

> > Is he still in die-off or should we request more testing and

medication?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What I mean is that with his salicylate intolerances he responds

horribly to oregano and graprefruit (both of which are very high).

Even with no-phenol he has insomnia and is even more aggressive.

Biocidin is okay because it is a mixture but it tends to bring the

aggressiveness out in him as well. He is also on a probiotic that we

combine with his yogurt.

> > >

> > > My son has been treated biomedically by Pfeiffer but lately we have

> > > seen little results and have been tapering off the medications. He

> > > recently was treated with Diflucan (which worked great and we saw

> > > immense changes) but we are now seeing a lot of his sensory issues

> back.

> > >

> > > His teachers seem to think it is related to the holidays and

> > > overstimulation (he is hypersensitive and always on guard and on the

> > > move...never able to calm himself even when I try to help he

fights).

> > >

> > > We saw a neuropsych last Friday who states that his problems are all

> > > SPD related but I am wondering if his yeast issues are still

plaguing

> > > him, as I see a lot of similar behaviors. Unfortunately, I can not

> > > tell the difference between behavior related and sensory related

> > > because he can't stop his behaviors due to his FAS/impulsiveness.

> > >

> > > scratching head, walls, furniture, us

> > > licking

> > > spinning

> > > throat noises

> > > screaming

> > > huge increase in aggressiveness (hitting, kicking, pinching,

> > > scratching, and self talk (he talks his way through the violent

> thoughts)

> > > impulsiveness

> > > incessant laughter

> > > fantasy land if stressed

> > > nonstop chatter

> > > hyperactivity and restlessness...can't sit still for more than a

> > > second and can't concentrate

> > >

> > > We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great

results but

> > > then about a week after treatment things started downhill again.

He is

> > > on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited diet

> > > Feingold diet

> > >

> > > Is he still in die-off or should we request more testing and

> medication?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

>

> > We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great

results but

> > then about a week after treatment things started downhill again.

He is

> > on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited diet

> > Feingold diet

>

> A lot of those symptoms were yeast for my son. He needed to be

treated for yeast all the

> time for years, no breaks, no matter what diet he was on. Not

Diflucan all the time though --

> I used GSE, oil of oregano, Biocidin, Thorne's SF722, and tanalbit.

I rotated every few weeks

> but Andy later pointed out that rotating only give the yeast a

chance to bounce back, so if I

> had it to do over again I'd find 2-3 things that work and stick

with them.

>

> What finally got rid of yeast was getting through enough chelation.

By abut round 50-60 it

> was quite manageable.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

My two cents is try some folic acid. I noticed he is on GFCF diet.

Therefore, if he doesn't eat peanut butter or some dark green leafy

vegatables, he does not have any source of folic acid. Folic acid

deficiency can cause aggression, hyperness, and most if not all

things you have described.

It is very safe. It can only cause problem in the presence of a B12

deficiency which is not very likely. I am guessing your son eats a

lot meat and B12 is stored in the body for some time.

It is worth the try.

My prayers and best wishes,

Kaylee

> > > >

> > > > My son has been treated biomedically by Pfeiffer but lately

we have

> > > > seen little results and have been tapering off the

medications. He

> > > > recently was treated with Diflucan (which worked great and we

saw

> > > > immense changes) but we are now seeing a lot of his sensory

issues

> > back.

> > > >

> > > > His teachers seem to think it is related to the holidays and

> > > > overstimulation (he is hypersensitive and always on guard and

on the

> > > > move...never able to calm himself even when I try to help he

> fights).

> > > >

> > > > We saw a neuropsych last Friday who states that his problems

are all

> > > > SPD related but I am wondering if his yeast issues are still

> plaguing

> > > > him, as I see a lot of similar behaviors. Unfortunately, I

can not

> > > > tell the difference between behavior related and sensory

related

> > > > because he can't stop his behaviors due to his

FAS/impulsiveness.

> > > >

> > > > scratching head, walls, furniture, us

> > > > licking

> > > > spinning

> > > > throat noises

> > > > screaming

> > > > huge increase in aggressiveness (hitting, kicking, pinching,

> > > > scratching, and self talk (he talks his way through the

violent

> > thoughts)

> > > > impulsiveness

> > > > incessant laughter

> > > > fantasy land if stressed

> > > > nonstop chatter

> > > > hyperactivity and restlessness...can't sit still for more

than a

> > > > second and can't concentrate

> > > >

> > > > We did 14 days of Dyflucan about 3 weeks ago and saw great

> results but

> > > > then about a week after treatment things started downhill

again.

> He is

> > > > on a no/low sugar, high protein, GFCF, soy and corn limited

diet

> > > > Feingold diet

> > > >

> > > > Is he still in die-off or should we request more testing and

> > medication?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> recently was treated with Diflucan (which worked great and we saw

> immense changes) but we are now seeing a lot of his sensory issues

back.

Add back a yeast protocol, including biotin, which the body uses to

keep yeast under control

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> spinning

> throat noises

> huge increase in aggressiveness (hitting, kicking, pinching,

> scratching, and self talk (he talks his way through the violent

thoughts)

> impulsiveness

> incessant laughter

> nonstop chatter

> hyperactivity and restlessness...can't sit still for more than a

> second and can't concentrate

These meant yeast overgrowth at my house. Some of them meant other

things also.

Dana