Re: I am currently locked in my bathroom.

[Guest guest]

, we are here, just on the other end of the keyboard if you need to

talk!! Wish I could help with liver life but we haven't tried it yet. The only

time I tried a liver product period, it was for liver detox and my poop

practically turned white. I worried I was stressing my liver. I wonder if

looking

at his poop after this could give you any clues????

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Hi ,

I can SO feel for you right now. I don't know about

Liver Life but I know about locking oneself in the

bathroom...

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Amy

--- " Baker (Dees) " <gregandkarenbaker@...>

wrote:

> I started Liver Life yesterday morning with my son.

> He had one drop

> in the a.m., one in the p.m. Today he had 2 drops

> in the a.m. and one

> drop in p.m. I haven't gotten the pH strips yet,

> still trying to find

> some locally.

>

> I have literally locked myself in the bathroom

> because my son has been

> throwing a tantrum pretty much all day (except when

> he took his nap).

> I do not know if this is related to the Liver Life.

> He wants me to

> constantly look at him, I am not " allowed " in his

> eyes to direct my

> attention anywhere else for even a moment.

> Basically he is being

> extremely demanding and crying for no reason that I

> can find. I mean

> he has been crying pretty much ALL DAY LONG. I

> cannot take it

> anymore!!!! So here I am sitting on the toilet with

> my laptop. I am

> desperate.

>

> Is this the Liver Life or should I consider

> something else is going

> on? He is 2 1/2.

>

> --

>

>

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[Guest guest]

, it happaned with me today, I gave my daughter liver life in

the morning. I used to give her for only night time before, then I

stopped bc I felt something going wrong with the night time

supplements. So, today I tryed again but started in the morning, o

gosh... she was crying without any reason a caouple of times, she was

tantruming...I am almost in my bathroom.

>

> I started Liver Life yesterday morning with my son. He had one drop

> in the a.m., one in the p.m. Today he had 2 drops in the a.m. and

one

> drop in p.m. I haven't gotten the pH strips yet, still trying to

find

> some locally.

>

> I have literally locked myself in the bathroom because my son has

been

> throwing a tantrum pretty much all day (except when he took his

nap).

> I do not know if this is related to the Liver Life. He wants me to

> constantly look at him, I am not " allowed " in his eyes to direct my

> attention anywhere else for even a moment. Basically he is being

> extremely demanding and crying for no reason that I can find. I

mean

> he has been crying pretty much ALL DAY LONG. I cannot take it

> anymore!!!! So here I am sitting on the toilet with my laptop. I

am

> desperate.

>

> Is this the Liver Life or should I consider something else is going

> on? He is 2 1/2.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

I’ve hidden in the bathroom a few times myself over the years. Sometimes

it’s the only place I can talk on the phone. Does your son seem like he is

in pain? I’m sorry. I have no experience with Live Life.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Baker (Dees)

Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:08 PM

Subject: [ ] I am currently locked in my bathroom.

I started Liver Life yesterday morning with my son. He had one drop

in the a.m., one in the p.m. Today he had 2 drops in the a.m. and one

drop in p.m. I haven't gotten the pH strips yet, still trying to find

some locally.

I have literally locked myself in the bathroom because my son has been

throwing a tantrum pretty much all day (except when he took his nap).

I do not know if this is related to the Liver Life. He wants me to

constantly look at him, I am not " allowed " in his eyes to direct my

attention anywhere else for even a moment. Basically he is being

extremely demanding and crying for no reason that I can find. I mean

he has been crying pretty much ALL DAY LONG. I cannot take it

anymore!!!! So here I am sitting on the toilet with my laptop. I am

desperate.

Is this the Liver Life or should I consider something else is going

on? He is 2 1/2.

--

[Guest guest]

We had to go really slowly with the LL. You should go back to just

one drop per day in the am and keep it there for a few days before

trying to increase his dose. It makes a big difference, and there

have been a few times that I tried to increase by one drop per day,

but we always get a lot of increased agitation when we do that. So I

only increase the daily dose by one drop about every 4th or 5th day.

We started LL back in April or May and are still not at the full

recommended dose yet. It's good stuff though!

Sheresa

>

> I started Liver Life yesterday morning with my son. He had one drop

> in the a.m., one in the p.m. Today he had 2 drops in the a.m. and

one

> drop in p.m. I haven't gotten the pH strips yet, still trying to

find

> some locally.

>

> I have literally locked myself in the bathroom because my son has

been

> throwing a tantrum pretty much all day (except when he took his

nap).

> I do not know if this is related to the Liver Life. He wants me to

> constantly look at him, I am not " allowed " in his eyes to direct my

> attention anywhere else for even a moment. Basically he is being

> extremely demanding and crying for no reason that I can find. I

mean

> he has been crying pretty much ALL DAY LONG. I cannot take it

> anymore!!!! So here I am sitting on the toilet with my laptop. I

am

> desperate.

>

> Is this the Liver Life or should I consider something else is going

> on? He is 2 1/2.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, my. I remember the days before computer when my lifeline was the

phone. Mine only did the tantrum thing for a short time, then he found

out it didn't work very well. But, I never could reach the bathroom with

the phone. So, I was actually outside on the front stoop with the phone

cord closed in the door while he threw his fit inside the house.

Unfortunately, he got the better end of the deal with that - we lived in

N. Maine and it was COLD! Wireless internet and a bathroom would have

looked pretty good to me. ;-)

Wish I knew about Liver Life, but all I can offer is empathy. Hope it

helps a little and you get the info you need to know so you can make a

decision. If it were me, I might cut back to 1 drop or stop and see

what happens. Maybe check the ingredients, it may be one of the

ingredients in Liver Life and not all? I'm just shooting in the dark

here, but that is what I might consider. I just hated those tantrum

times, especially when my little boy used to be so easy going and happy.

Best to you.

P.

Baker (Dees) wrote:

>

> I started Liver Life yesterday morning with my son. He had one drop

> in the a.m., one in the p.m. Today he had 2 drops in the a.m. and one

> drop in p.m. I haven't gotten the pH strips yet, still trying to find

> some locally.

>

> I have literally locked myself in the bathroom because my son has been

> throwing a tantrum pretty much all day (except when he took his nap).

> I do not know if this is related to the Liver Life. He wants me to

> constantly look at him, I am not " allowed " in his eyes to direct my

> attention anywhere else for even a moment. Basically he is being

> extremely demanding and crying for no reason that I can find. I mean

> he has been crying pretty much ALL DAY LONG. I cannot take it

> anymore!!!! So here I am sitting on the toilet with my laptop. I am

> desperate.

>

> Is this the Liver Life or should I consider something else is going

> on? He is 2 1/2.

>

> --

>

>

[Guest guest]

oh yeah ph strips - i got them at a hobby store last

time i needed them (during pregnancy). You can get

them at a pool store but they're more expensive.

--- kraskina <kraskina@...> wrote:

> , it happaned with me today, I gave my daughter

> liver life in

> the morning. I used to give her for only night time

> before, then I

> stopped bc I felt something going wrong with the

> night time

> supplements. So, today I tryed again but started in

> the morning, o

> gosh... she was crying without any reason a caouple

> of times, she was

> tantruming...I am almost in my bathroom.

>

>

> >

> > I started Liver Life yesterday morning with my

> son. He had one drop

> > in the a.m., one in the p.m. Today he had 2 drops

> in the a.m. and

> one

> > drop in p.m. I haven't gotten the pH strips yet,

> still trying to

> find

> > some locally.

> >

> > I have literally locked myself in the bathroom

> because my son has

> been

> > throwing a tantrum pretty much all day (except

> when he took his

> nap).

> > I do not know if this is related to the Liver

> Life. He wants me to

> > constantly look at him, I am not " allowed " in his

> eyes to direct my

> > attention anywhere else for even a moment.

> Basically he is being

> > extremely demanding and crying for no reason that

> I can find. I

> mean

> > he has been crying pretty much ALL DAY LONG. I

> cannot take it

> > anymore!!!! So here I am sitting on the toilet

> with my laptop. I

> am

> > desperate.

> >

> > Is this the Liver Life or should I consider

> something else is going

> > on? He is 2 1/2.

> >

> > --

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

oh, boy. When my son was that age I didn't have a lap top. At least

you aren't in the bathroom alone.

Stop the Liver Life. If he reacts like my son, your son will get

back to his baseline (not crying all day) within 24-48 hours. After

a few days back to normal, restart the Liver Life and stay at the

initial dose for a few days or even weeks before working up to more.

I took a quick look at what Liver Life actually contained: herbs can

be tricky. They have just as much (perhaps more) potential to cause

negative reactions than plain old vitamins and minerals.

I'm guessing those pH strips are a part of the Liver Life process?

Maybe you should wait until you get the strips, test his urine for a

baseline (no Liver Life) pH and then start the Liver Life so you can

see if the pH is affected.

Sometimes this just isn't fun. I hope things settle down in your

house. He sounds really distressed. It reminds me of my son's

reaction to lipoceutical glutathione!

Pam

>

> I started Liver Life yesterday morning with my son. He had one drop

> in the a.m., one in the p.m. Today he had 2 drops in the a.m. and

one

> drop in p.m. I haven't gotten the pH strips yet, still trying to

find

> some locally.

>

> I have literally locked myself in the bathroom because my son has

been

> throwing a tantrum pretty much all day (except when he took his

nap).

> I do not know if this is related to the Liver Life. He wants me to

> constantly look at him, I am not " allowed " in his eyes to direct my

> attention anywhere else for even a moment. Basically he is being

> extremely demanding and crying for no reason that I can find. I

mean

> he has been crying pretty much ALL DAY LONG. I cannot take it

> anymore!!!! So here I am sitting on the toilet with my laptop. I

am

> desperate.

>

> Is this the Liver Life or should I consider something else is going

> on? He is 2 1/2.

>

> --

>