Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I believe the recommended doses for ALA and DMSA is 1/8- ¼ mg per pound not ½ mg. Good luck! Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Not 1mg per pound, but 1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound. I would take his weight and divide it by 8 and you get 1/8 mg per pound(for your son it would be roughly 8mg). If he tolerates it well I would try maybe 10-12 mgs the next round. When you add the ALA I would add it at 1/8 mg per pound and work up the same way. Your schedule looks great. God bless, http://wakingsophie.com http://autismshare.com > > Please tell me if this is right... > I use 1mg per pound of DMSA to start,,I start the first round with only > DMSA and I can add ALA 2nd or 3rd round(right?)How much do you increase > the dose if they are tolerating it OK? > When you add the ALA it says to start with 1/2 mg per pound and > increase slowly..how high do you increase? My son is about 65 pds. > I give DMSA every 3 hr during the day and every 4 hr at night for 72 > hrs. > SO I worked out this scheldule.. > 9am > 12pm > 3pm > 6pm > 9pm > 1am > 5am > and back to 9am for 3 days and take 4 days off... > Please let me know if this is right.. > I have a feeling the DAN! is not going to go for this so I will be > figuring this out on my own. > THanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: pudgeo9999 Please tell me if this is right... I use 1mg per pound of DMSA to start, ===>1 mg is the UPPER limit, start with 1/8 mg per lb of Dmsa and do a round of two of just Dmsa so you can see what it does, then add 1/8 mg per lb of Ala. If your boy weighs 65 lbs, start with 8 mgs of Dmsa, or 100 mg capsule divided by 12. ,I start the first round with only DMSA and I can add ALA 2nd or 3rd round(right?)How much do you increase the dose if they are tolerating it OK? ====>Increase every 5 rounds or so until you are at the upper limit. Never increase by more than 50%. So in 5 rounds you can increase to 12 mgs, etc. When you add the ALA it says to start with 1/2 mg per pound and increase slowly..how high do you increase? ====>Start with 1/8 mg per lb and increase slowly, every 5 rounds or so, to the upper limit. If the side effects, such as yeast or anything else, don't increase anymore. My son is about 65 pds. I give DMSA every 3 hr during the day and every 4 hr at night for 72 hrs. SO I worked out this scheldule.. 9am 12pm 3pm 6pm 9pm 1am 5am and back to 9am for 3 days and take 4 days off... ====>Yes, seems right to me. Good luck, Please let me know if this is right.. I have a feeling the DAN! is not going to go for this so I will be figuring this out on my own. THanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Comments interspersed. S S More ?? about Cutler protocal.. Posted by: " pudgeo9999 " pudgeo9999@... pudgeo9999 Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:00 pm (PDT) Please tell me if this is right... I use 1mg per pound of DMSA to start, *NO, 1/8-1/2 mg/lb. ,I start the first round with only DMSA and I can add ALA 2nd or 3rd round(right?)How much do you increase the dose if they are tolerating it OK? *1mg/lb is the max. When you add the ALA it says to start with 1/2 mg per pound and increase slowly..how high do you increase? *Start the ALa at 1/8 mb/lb as well. My son is about 65 pds. I give DMSA every 3 hr during the day and every 4 hr at night for 72 _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hmm.. okay. So I'm supposed to do a challenge with my son this week. My ND gave me instructions at 20 mg per lb. I thought I'd do this protocol instead. So now I have this bottle full of 50 mg capsules. Any tips? Time to go buy a scale as I don't know what my son weighs lately. Kes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pudgeo9999 > > > Please tell me if this is right... > I use 1mg per pound of DMSA to start, > > ===>1 mg is the UPPER limit, start with 1/8 mg per lb of Dmsa and do a round of two of just Dmsa so you can see what it does, then add 1/8 mg per lb of Ala. If your boy weighs 65 lbs, start with 8 mgs of Dmsa, or 100 mg capsule divided by 12. > > > > ,I start the first round with only > DMSA and I can add ALA 2nd or 3rd round(right?)How much do you increase > the dose if they are tolerating it OK? > > ====>Increase every 5 rounds or so until you are at the upper limit. Never increase by more than 50%. So in 5 rounds you can increase to 12 mgs, etc. > > > When you add the ALA it says to start with 1/2 mg per pound and > increase slowly..how high do you increase? > > ====>Start with 1/8 mg per lb and increase slowly, every 5 rounds or so, to the upper limit. If the side effects, such as yeast or anything else, don't increase anymore. > > > > My son is about 65 pds. > I give DMSA every 3 hr during the day and every 4 hr at night for 72 > hrs. > SO I worked out this scheldule.. > 9am > 12pm > 3pm > 6pm > 9pm > 1am > 5am > and back to 9am for 3 days and take 4 days off... > > ====>Yes, seems right to me. Good luck, > > > > > Please let me know if this is right.. > I have a feeling the DAN! is not going to go for this so I will be > figuring this out on my own. > > > THanks, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 You will have to open the capsules and divide the powder into piles to get the dose he needs. For example: we purchase 25mg caps and divide the powder in half to get 12.5mg or if we want 20mg we removed 1/4 of the pile of powder. etc, etc. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: pudgeo9999 > > > > > > Please tell me if this is right... > > I use 1mg per pound of DMSA to start, > > > > ===>1 mg is the UPPER limit, start with 1/8 mg per lb of Dmsa and > do a round of two of just Dmsa so you can see what it does, then add > 1/8 mg per lb of Ala. If your boy weighs 65 lbs, start with 8 mgs of > Dmsa, or 100 mg capsule divided by 12. > > > > > > > > ,I start the first round with only > > DMSA and I can add ALA 2nd or 3rd round(right?)How much do you > increase > > the dose if they are tolerating it OK? > > > > ====>Increase every 5 rounds or so until you are at the upper > limit. Never increase by more than 50%. So in 5 rounds you can > increase to 12 mgs, etc. > > > > > > When you add the ALA it says to start with 1/2 mg per pound and > > increase slowly..how high do you increase? > > > > ====>Start with 1/8 mg per lb and increase slowly, every 5 rounds > or so, to the upper limit. If the side effects, such as yeast or > anything else, don't increase anymore. > > > > > > > > My son is about 65 pds. > > I give DMSA every 3 hr during the day and every 4 hr at night for 72 > > hrs. > > SO I worked out this scheldule.. > > 9am > > 12pm > > 3pm > > 6pm > > 9pm > > 1am > > 5am > > and back to 9am for 3 days and take 4 days off... > > > > ====>Yes, seems right to me. Good luck, > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if this is right.. > > I have a feeling the DAN! is not going to go for this so I will be > > figuring this out on my own. > > > > > > THanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Consider getting empty capsules at the health food store and divide them based upon his weight. S S Re: More ?? about Cutler protocal.. Posted by: " keigh_ca " keigh_ca@... keigh_ca Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:19 am (PDT) Hmm.. okay. So I'm supposed to do a challenge with my son this week. My ND gave me instructions at 20 mg per lb. I thought I'd do this protocol instead. So now I have this bottle full of 50 mg capsules. Any tips? Time to go buy a scale as I don't know what my son weighs lately. Kes _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thanks for all the help! The DMSA came in the mail at 10:50am and we started chelation at 11am!!! I will probably have more ???soon! > > > Consider getting empty capsules at the health food store and divide them based upon his weight. > S S > > Re: More ?? about Cutler protocal.. > Posted by: " keigh_ca " keigh_ca@... keigh_ca > Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:19 am (PDT) > > Hmm.. okay. So I'm supposed to do a challenge with my son this week. > My ND gave me instructions at 20 mg per lb. I thought I'd do this > protocol instead. So now I have this bottle full of 50 mg capsules. > Any tips? Time to go buy a scale as I don't know what my son weighs > lately. > Kes > > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Posted by: " keigh_ca " keigh_ca@... keigh_ca Date: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:19 am ((PDT)) >Hmm.. okay. So I'm supposed to do a challenge with my son this week. My ND gave me instructions at 20 mg per lb. _Ouch_. That is a _very_ high dose. Furthermore, you need to ask what you are trying to test for. If you are looking to evaluate the presence or absense of mercury, lead or arsenic toxicity, then this is not the right way to do it. These kinds of challenge tests are not helpful in this regard. The proper way to go about this is to do a hair test (go to DirectLabs.com and order the " Hair Elements " test, _not_ the " Toxic Hair Elements " test) and consider symptoms (get Andy's " Amalgam Illness " and look at the symptoms and testing results that he discusses in relation to mercury toxicity). By the way, once you do the hair test, you can have Dean post it to his site. Directions are here: http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/hairtest.html Then let us know, and we can give feedback. >I thought I'd do this protocol instead. So now I have this bottle full of 50 mg capsules. Any tips? Yes. I would suggest not doing this off the cuff. It's important to focus on the fact that you are employing substances that move neurotoxins. The body does it's best to keep these substances from moving around, as when they do, they cause damage. Chelators go around those self-protective systems, and begin to take the metals out. If you are going to do this, you really need to have studied how to do it properly. >Time to go buy a scale as I don't know what my son weighs lately. No, I'd say it's time to go to NoAmalgam.Com and buy Andy's book, or maybe both books. >Kes --- Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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