Re: Autism and Schizophrenia Linked

[Guest guest]

Yes, yes, yes!!

Finally someone else sees the connection! I think autism, childhood

disintegrative disorder, and schizophrenia are all very closely

related, just different manifestations of a similar set of underlying

problems.

My daughter is not autistic, might have CDD, might be schizophrenic,

and I am treating just the way you all are, and having similar results

as what others here have had.

You've heard the phrase " Mad as a hatter " ? That's because hat makers

used to use mercury to make the hats, and a bunch of them went

crazy!! Duh, then someone decides to put mercury in vacines and

wonders why kids are getting so royally messed up. The ignorance of

the manufacturers is unfathomable.

My daughter was 5 when she stopped talking and started hallucinating.

Patty

> Autism and Schizophrenia Linked

> March 31, 2008 Shute

>

> " Could autism and schizophrenia be cousins? New research shows that

> people with schizophrenia have rare variations in genes that control

> brain development and that each person has a unique pattern of

> mutations. The finding is startlingly similar to new research on

> autism. Since April 2 is the first-ever World Autism Awareness Day,

> it's a good time to ponder what this odd conjunction says about

> building human brains—and, perhaps, how to fix them. "

>

> http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-parenting/2008/03/31/autism-and-

> schizophrenia-linked.html

>

[Guest guest]

Gee, if they are mutations-I wonder how they got them?? My sister's husband's son developed schizophrenia within days after he was vaccinated to enter college-could their link be vaccines too? maurineucanmailjackie <ucanmailjackie@...> wrote: FYI - Jackie####Autism and Schizophrenia LinkedMarch 31, 2008 Shute "Could autism and schizophrenia be cousins? New research shows that people with schizophrenia have rare variations in genes that

control brain development and that each person has a unique pattern of mutations. The finding is startlingly similar to new research on autism. Since April 2 is the first-ever World Autism Awareness Day, it's a good time to ponder what this odd conjunction says about building human brains—and, perhaps, how to fix them."http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-parenting/2008/03/31/autism-and-schizophrenia-linked.html

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[Guest guest]

This is so crazy because last night I was contemplating the results

of all my research and came to this conclusion: I believe my son has

immune responses to food allergies and immune reactions from

(unknown) things going on in his body. These immune reactions cause

inflammation, which leads to psychotic episodes.

For the last couple years, my son has gone through cycles of

unexplained aggressive, impulsive, paranoid behavior. This behavior

is usually directed at a person for no apparent reason. For a long

time, I tried to control the behavior using time-out. It did not

work. I became very frustrated because people wouldn't believe me

when I told them he REALLY couldn't control himself.

Last month we had an episode after I gave him chocolate. He went

absolutely crazy. Since last fall, we have somewhat gotten it under

control with VERY strict diet limitations. I can't say it's gone

though or that it will ever be. With age, he may gain more control

over his behavior during episodes, but I don't know. In my research

I have found that there is not a solution to this cycle of immune

response yet. I am very sad about this and believe thimerosal is to

blame. I want to sue these people who wrecklessly endangered our

kids by injecting them with ethylmercury.

" A great deal still needs to be understood about the toxicology

of mercury, especially with regard to mechanisms of action. " (The

Toxicology of Mercury and its Chemical Compounds, son and Magos,

2006)

If they still didn't know much about it in 2006, it had no business

being injected into our children prior to that.

" An outbreak of ethylmercury poisoning that took place

in rural Iraq in the 1950s gave more details on the toxic

effects (Jalili and Abbasi, 1961). In this outbreak, homemade

bread had been prepared from seed wheat treated with an

ethylmercury fungicide, ethylmercury p-toluene sulfanilamide.

The neurological signs and symptoms are similar if not identical

with those already discussed for methylmercury. In addition,

there was clinical evidence of kidney damage that included

albuminuria and the nephrotic syndrome. It is possible that some

of the fatalities in this outbreak were the sequelae of kidney

failure.

Risk assessment for effects on the nervous system have been

made by assuming that the dose-effect and dose-response relationships

published for methylmercury apply to ethylmercury.

It was on this basis that thimerosal, an ethylmercury compound,

was removed from vaccines commonly given to infants and

children (AAP and U.S. PHS, 1999). "

So why was ethylmercury still in vaccines being used until expiration

in 2003 (CDC)?

" Hornig et al. (2004) observed the effects of thimerosal on

an autoimmune disease sensitive strain of mice (SJL/J). They

reported growth delay, and behavioral changes such as reduced

locomotion and exaggerated response to novelty. Examination

of the brain tissues revealed densely packed, hyperchromic

hippocampal neurons with altered glutamate receptors and

transporters. "

Hmmm...

Our kids deserve compensation for this injury just as much as anyone

else calling in for a drug recall class action advertised on TV. I'm

sick of the excuse that " autism would overwhelm the VICP " and hearing

that the government is protecting companies from lawsuits out of

vaccine court. We need to stand together and DO SOMETHING!!

Sorry for getting off track.

>

> Yes, yes, yes!!

> Finally someone else sees the connection! I think autism,

childhood

> disintegrative disorder, and schizophrenia are all very closely

> related, just different manifestations of a similar set of

underlying

> problems.

>

> My daughter is not autistic, might have CDD, might be

schizophrenic,

> and I am treating just the way you all are, and having similar

results

> as what others here have had.

>

> You've heard the phrase " Mad as a hatter " ? That's because hat

makers

> used to use mercury to make the hats, and a bunch of them went

> crazy!! Duh, then someone decides to put mercury in vacines and

> wonders why kids are getting so royally messed up. The ignorance

of

> the manufacturers is unfathomable.

>

> My daughter was 5 when she stopped talking and started

hallucinating.

>

> Patty

>

>

>

> > Autism and Schizophrenia Linked

> > March 31, 2008 Shute

> >

> > " Could autism and schizophrenia be cousins? New research shows

that

> > people with schizophrenia have rare variations in genes that

control

> > brain development and that each person has a unique pattern of

> > mutations. The finding is startlingly similar to new research on

> > autism. Since April 2 is the first-ever World Autism Awareness

Day,

> > it's a good time to ponder what this odd conjunction says about

> > building human brains—and, perhaps, how to fix them. "

> >

> > http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-parenting/2008/03/31/autism-and-

> > schizophrenia-linked.html

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have always felt that there was a strong connection between schizophrenia and autism.....as well as other mental disorders and autism. There's a strong relationship between celiac disease and schizophrenia, and individuals diagnosed with bipolar disorder often respond well to fish oil. It is my belief (uneducated, that is) that all of these issues are related.

EOHarm From: ucanmailjackie@...Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:02:03 +0000Subject: Autism and Schizophrenia Linked

FYI - Jackie####Autism and Schizophrenia LinkedMarch 31, 2008 Shute "Could autism and schizophrenia be cousins? New research shows that people with schizophrenia have rare variations in genes that control brain development and that each person has a unique pattern of mutations. The finding is startlingly similar to new research on autism. Since April 2 is the first-ever World Autism Awareness Day, it's a good time to ponder what this odd conjunction says about building human brains—and, perhaps, how to fix them."http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-parenting/2008/03/31/autism-and-schizophrenia-linked.html More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger.

[Guest guest]

Carl Pfeiffer (Pfeiffer Treatment Clinic is named for him) suspected

that schozophrenia may be (in some cases) undiagnosed celiac disease,

which links it to autism in a way, because so many of our children on

the spectrum improve with the removal of gluten from their diets.

Penny

>

> FYI -

>

> Jackie

>

> ####

>

> Autism and Schizophrenia Linked

> March 31, 2008 Shute

>

> " Could autism and schizophrenia be cousins? New research shows that

> people with schizophrenia have rare variations in genes that control

> brain development and that each person has a unique pattern of

> mutations. The finding is startlingly similar to new research on

> autism. Since April 2 is the first-ever World Autism Awareness Day,

> it's a good time to ponder what this odd conjunction says about

> building human brains—and, perhaps, how to fix them. "

>

> http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-parenting/2008/03/31/autism-and-

> schizophrenia-linked.html

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Carl Pfeiffer (Pfeiffer Treatment Clinic is named for him) suspected

> that schozophrenia may be (in some cases) undiagnosed celiac

disease,

> which links it to autism in a way, because so many of our children

on

> the spectrum improve with the removal of gluten from their diets.

>

> Penny

From the man who brought us Gatorade...

http://news.ufl.edu/1999/03/15/autism/

UF Researchers Cite Possible Link Between Autism, Schizophrenia And

Diet

Filed under Research, Health on Monday, March 15, 1999.GAINESVILLE—

Findings from two novel animal studies indicate autism and

schizophrenia may be linked to an individual's inability to properly

break down a protein found in milk, University of Florida researchers

report in this month's issue of the journal Autism.

The digestive problem might actually lead to the disorders' symptoms,

whose basis has long been debated, said UF physiologist Dr. J.

Cade, cautioning that further research must take place before

scientists have a definitive answer. When not broken down, the milk

protein produces exorphins, morphine-like compounds that are then

taken up by areas of the brain known to be involved in autism and

schizophrenia, where they cause cells to dysfunction.

The animal findings suggest an intestinal flaw, such as a

malfunctioning enzyme, is to blame, says Cade, whose team also is

putting the theory to the test in humans. Preliminary findings from

that study which showed 95 percent of 81 autistic and schizophrenic

children studied had 100 times the normal levels of the milk protein

in their blood and urine have been presented at two international

meetings in the past year but have not yet been published.

When these children were put on a milk-free diet, at least eight out

of 10 no longer had symptoms of autism or schizophrenia, says Cade, a

professor of medicine and physiology at UF's College of Medicine and

inventor of the Gatorade sports drink. His research team includes

research scientist Dr. Zhongjie Sun and research associate R. Malcolm

Privette.

" We now have proof positive that these proteins are getting into the

blood and proof positive they're getting into areas of the brain

involved with the symptoms of autism and schizophrenia, " Cade said.

More than 500,000 Americans have some form of autism, according to

the Autism Society of America. The developmental disability typically

appears during the first three years of life and is characterized by

problems interacting and communicating with others. Many individuals

exhibit repeated body movements such as hand-flapping or rocking and

may resist changes in routine. In some cases, they may display

aggressive or self-injurious behavior.

Schizophrenia is noted for disturbances in thinking, emotional

reaction and behavior and is the most common form of psychotic

illness. More than 2 million Americans suffer from it, according to

the National Institute of Mental Health. People with schizophrenia

often hear internal voices not heard by others, or believe others are

reading their minds, controlling their thoughts or plotting to harm

them. In addition, their speech and behavior can be so disorganized

that they may be incomprehensible or frightening to others.

In the UF studies, researchers injected rats with the protein beta-

casomorphin-7, one of the key constituents of milk and the part that

coagulates to make cheese. They then observed their behavior and

later examined brain tissue to see whether the substances accumulated

there.

Beta-casomorphin-7 was taken up by 32 different areas of the brain,

Cade said, including sections responsible for vision, hearing and

communication.

" This could explain several of the things one sees in autism and

schizophrenia, such as hallucinations, " he said. " If part of the

brain] puts out a false signal because of casomorphin, it could

result in the person seeing something that's not really there; either

a visual or auditory hallucination could occur.

" There are a whole number of behaviors that the rat has after beta-

casomorphin-7 that are basically the same as one sees in the human

with autism or schizophrenia, " he added. " If we ring a bell beside a

rat's cage, it normally looks up to see where the noise is coming

from. But the rats after beta-casomorphin-7 didn't do that they were

completely oblivious to the bell-ringing above them. This struck us

as interesting because many mothers of autistic children comment that

they seem at times to be totally deaf — they talk to their children

and they just don't seem to hear them. "

Researchers suspect the process begins in the intestine, where the

body absorbs the protein when a person eats foods containing it.

" We think this process is linked to the production of antibodies in

the gut when you eat something you're sensitive to, " Cade said. " Both

schizophrenics and autistics have a high incidence of [certain]

antibodies, and a high incidence of diarrhea, which points to an

intestinal disorder. So we think that with autism and schizophrenia,

the basic disorder is in the intestine, and these individuals are

absorbing beta-casomorphin-7 that they normally should break down in

the body as amino acids, rather than peptide chains up to 12 amino

acids long. "

Dr. L. Leventhal, professor of psychiatry and pediatrics and

director of child adolescent psychiatry at the University of Chicago

School of Medicine, said other studies exploring a dietary link to

autism or schizophrenia have been less than convincing, and the

notion has not generally been accepted in the field.

" Autism and schizophrenia certainly are distinctly different

disorders, " Leventhal said. " I think the best hypothesis sitting out

there today is that some genetic abnormality is causing these

disorders. It is certainly possible that these genetic abnormalities

could lead to the metabolic effects Dr. Cade mentions, though there

is not substantial support for that at this time.

" With autism in particular, there are three or four genes that have

sparked interest, " he added. " The assumption is that it is not a

single gene disorder but rather a polygenic disorder. Given that, it

means not only does one have to figure out what the genes are but

also what they do and their relative contribution to the symptoms of

the disorder. This is not unusual the vast majority of medical

conditions for which there is genetic substantiation are complex

disorders. Single gene disorders are relatively rare. "

[Guest guest]

If in some cases schizophrenia may be related to undiagnosed celiac disease, the people who are affected may possibly be helped by adopting or using the specific carbohydrate diet, as that diet does not allow any of the offending carbohydrates/gluten/glutenlike proteins. Elaine Gottschall, before she died, had received anecdotal evidence to show that the scd diet had helped people with schizophrenia and also with seizures. AasaCharlie Hoover <.Hoover@...> wrote: >> > Carl Pfeiffer (Pfeiffer Treatment Clinic is named for him) suspected> that schozophrenia may be (in some cases) undiagnosed celiac disease,> which links it to autism in a way, because so many of our children on> the spectrum improve with the removal of gluten from their diets.> > PennyFrom the man who brought us Gatorade...http://news.ufl.edu/1999/03/15/autism/UF Researchers Cite Possible Link Between Autism, Schizophrenia And DietFiled under Research, Health on Monday, March 15, 1999.GAINESVILLE—Findings from two novel animal studies indicate autism and schizophrenia may be linked to an individual's inability to properly break down a protein found in milk, University of Florida researchers

report in this month's issue of the journal Autism.The digestive problem might actually lead to the disorders' symptoms, whose basis has long been debated, said UF physiologist Dr. J. Cade, cautioning that further research must take place before scientists have a definitive answer. When not broken down, the milk protein produces exorphins, morphine-like compounds that are then taken up by areas of the brain known to be involved in autism and schizophrenia, where they cause cells to dysfunction.The animal findings suggest an intestinal flaw, such as a malfunctioning enzyme, is to blame, says Cade, whose team also is putting the theory to the test in humans. Preliminary findings from that study which showed 95 percent of 81 autistic and schizophrenic children studied had 100 times the normal levels of the milk protein in their blood and urine have been presented at two international meetings in the

past year but have not yet been published.When these children were put on a milk-free diet, at least eight out of 10 no longer had symptoms of autism or schizophrenia, says Cade, a professor of medicine and physiology at UF's College of Medicine and inventor of the Gatorade sports drink. His research team includes research scientist Dr. Zhongjie Sun and research associate R. Malcolm Privette."We now have proof positive that these proteins are getting into the blood and proof positive they're getting into areas of the brain involved with the symptoms of autism and schizophrenia," Cade said.More than 500,000 Americans have some form of autism, according to the Autism Society of America. The developmental disability typically appears during the first three years of life and is characterized by problems interacting and communicating with others. Many individuals exhibit repeated body movements such as

hand-flapping or rocking and may resist changes in routine. In some cases, they may display aggressive or self-injurious behavior.Schizophrenia is noted for disturbances in thinking, emotional reaction and behavior and is the most common form of psychotic illness. More than 2 million Americans suffer from it, according to the National Institute of Mental Health. People with schizophrenia often hear internal voices not heard by others, or believe others are reading their minds, controlling their thoughts or plotting to harm them. In addition, their speech and behavior can be so disorganized that they may be incomprehensible or frightening to others. In the UF studies, researchers injected rats with the protein beta-casomorphin-7, one of the key constituents of milk and the part that coagulates to make cheese. They then observed their behavior and later examined brain tissue to see whether the substances

accumulated there.Beta-casomorphin-7 was taken up by 32 different areas of the brain, Cade said, including sections responsible for vision, hearing and communication."This could explain several of the things one sees in autism and schizophrenia, such as hallucinations," he said. "If part of the brain] puts out a false signal because of casomorphin, it could result in the person seeing something that's not really there; either a visual or auditory hallucination could occur."There are a whole number of behaviors that the rat has after beta-casomorphin-7 that are basically the same as one sees in the human with autism or schizophrenia," he added. "If we ring a bell beside a rat's cage, it normally looks up to see where the noise is coming from. But the rats after beta-casomorphin-7 didn't do that they were completely oblivious to the bell-ringing above them. This struck us as

interesting because many mothers of autistic children comment that they seem at times to be totally deaf — they talk to their children and they just don't seem to hear them."Researchers suspect the process begins in the intestine, where the body absorbs the protein when a person eats foods containing it. "We think this process is linked to the production of antibodies in the gut when you eat something you're sensitive to," Cade said. "Both schizophrenics and autistics have a high incidence of [certain] antibodies, and a high incidence of diarrhea, which points to an intestinal disorder. So we think that with autism and schizophrenia, the basic disorder is in the intestine, and these individuals are absorbing beta-casomorphin-7 that they normally should break down in the body as amino acids, rather than peptide chains up to 12 amino acids long."Dr. L. Leventhal, professor of psychiatry and

pediatrics and director of child adolescent psychiatry at the University of Chicago School of Medicine, said other studies exploring a dietary link to autism or schizophrenia have been less than convincing, and the notion has not generally been accepted in the field."Autism and schizophrenia certainly are distinctly different disorders," Leventhal said. "I think the best hypothesis sitting out there today is that some genetic abnormality is causing these disorders. It is certainly possible that these genetic abnormalities could lead to the metabolic effects Dr. Cade mentions, though there is not substantial support for that at this time."With autism in particular, there are three or four genes that have sparked interest," he added. "The assumption is that it is not a single gene disorder but rather a polygenic disorder. Given that, it means not only does one have to figure out what the genes are but also

what they do and their relative contribution to the symptoms of the disorder. This is not unusual the vast majority of medical conditions for which there is genetic substantiation are complex disorders. Single gene disorders are relatively rare."

[Guest guest]

I totally subscribe to this theory. When my son is detoxing fungal forms from ethyl mercury during chelation, he totally acts schizophrenic.Rox Re: Autism and Schizophrenia Linked

Gee, if they are mutations-I wonder how they got them?? My sister's husband's son developed schizophrenia within days after he was vaccinated to enter college-could their link be vaccines too? maurineucanmailjackie <ucanmailjackie> wrote: FYI - Jackie####Autism and Schizophrenia LinkedMarch 31, 2008 Shute "Could autism and schizophrenia be cousins? New research shows that people with schizophrenia have rare variations in genes that

control brain development and that each person has a unique pattern of mutations. The finding is startlingly similar to new research on autism. Since April 2 is the first-ever World Autism Awareness Day, it's a good time to ponder what this odd conjunction says about building human brains—and, perhaps, how to fix them."http://www.usnews. com/blogs/ on-parenting/ 2008/03/31/ autism-and-schizophrenia- linked.html You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

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[Guest guest]

Wow, I can relate to some extent , but not completely. That

must be very stressful. I'm curious, is your son apologetic or upset

afterwards when he has calmed down or does he feel justified that he

reacted the way he did?

My son reacts badly to red food coloring. We do not keep it in our

house, but he is a teenager and on the rare occasion he eats some -

watch out! I would pull my hair out if he was like that all the time.

Btw, he is not apologetic afterwards even though after years I know

it is the red food coloring. So I was just curious about your son.

Have you considered IgG food allergy testing like with Immuno Labs?

They are good and those are the type of food allergies that can

trigger a response up to 3 days later so they are hard to pinpoint on

our own except through a strict elimination diet where you slowly add

back in one food at a time every 3 days.

The other thing I wanted to mention was auditory processing

disorders. When we had our son tested he was the type that could hear

the buzzing of fluorescent bulbs and that can set you on edge to

where the slightest thing sets you off. After auditory integration

therapy with Berard CDs, his auditory ranges are in normal levels.

Keep us posted on what works for you and good luck.

>

> This is so crazy because last night I was contemplating the results

> of all my research and came to this conclusion: I believe my son

has

> immune responses to food allergies and immune reactions from

> (unknown) things going on in his body. These immune reactions

cause

> inflammation, which leads to psychotic episodes.

>

> For the last couple years, my son has gone through cycles of

> unexplained aggressive, impulsive, paranoid behavior. This

behavior

> is usually directed at a person for no apparent reason. For a long

> time, I tried to control the behavior using time-out. It did not

> work. I became very frustrated because people wouldn't believe me

> when I told them he REALLY couldn't control himself.

>

> Last month we had an episode after I gave him chocolate. He went

> absolutely crazy. Since last fall, we have somewhat gotten it

under

> control with VERY strict diet limitations. I can't say it's gone

> though or that it will ever be. With age, he may gain more control

> over his behavior during episodes, but I don't know. In my

research

> I have found that there is not a solution to this cycle of immune

> response yet. I am very sad about this and believe thimerosal is

to

> blame. I want to sue these people who wrecklessly endangered our

> kids by injecting them with ethylmercury.

>