Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Is it like chicken skin? It's called Keratois Pilaris My son's went away when we started MB12 shots. Kerrie **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 My son only had it on the back of his arms too Kerrie In a message dated 6/13/2008 9:43:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, praboli@... writes: Yeah, but it's only on the back of his arms. My other child, 2.5 years, has the same chicken skin, but only on the outer thighs. Very strange. Pam **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 It might be keratosis pilaris (sp), which a huge percentage of the population has. It's benign but I've heard it relates to autoimmunity in some ways. My daughter developed this after the MMR. There's a Wiki article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratosis_pilaris It's the body's reaction to its own keratin. It's supposed to be " genetic " ...like, um, autism? I suspect it's a gene expression that has environmental triggers, though I could be wrong. There's a lot of mainstream medical advice on how to treat it but it all seems scary to me (Retin A, etc.). Our daughter's started to resolve considerably when we got her on Trienza and some improved probiotics recently. Putting olive oil in the bath helps and apparently just time. Some people's cases become barely noticeable by adulthood, but I guess that depends. Do get it checked to make sure it's not some other kind of contagious rash, but because of the location, it sounds like kp. > > I noticed small bumps on the back of my son's arms... anyone know what > this could be caused from? My first thought would be food > intolerance, but it doesn't seem to get better with dietary changes. > > Thanks, > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 That's really interesting because I actually have had that and I just thought maybe I had allergies and just kind of wrote it off being it didn't have any other side effects. I take most of the supplements my child takes and the bumpy skin has gone away. Subsequently, I also feel better emotionally, physically and my energy level has increased. Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it. Pam > > > > I noticed small bumps on the back of my son's arms... anyone know > what > > this could be caused from? My first thought would be food > > intolerance, but it doesn't seem to get better with dietary changes. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Pam, Both my apraxic son and I had these. We both started fish oil when he was 2 and within 6 months or so they went away. I read later that the small bumps on the back of the arms can be a sign of EFA (essential fatty acid) deficiency. My son's eczema also cleared up with the fish oil as well. (Max's Mom) > > I noticed small bumps on the back of my son's arms... anyone know what > this could be caused from? My first thought would be food > intolerance, but it doesn't seem to get better with dietary changes. > > Thanks, > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yeah, but it's only on the back of his arms. My other child, 2.5 years, has the same chicken skin, but only on the outer thighs. Very strange. Pam > > Is it like chicken skin? It's called Keratois Pilaris > > My son's went away when we started MB12 shots. > > Kerrie > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I actually have that on my arms and upper legs and buttocks. Unsightly. The derm gave me lots of stuff to put on it and it all came with lots of warnings about bad to use if you are pregnant. So after I paid a fortune for it and read the warnings I decided to NOT use any of it. (Due to a liver issue that no one can figure out) I have noticed that sun exposure helps it. So does brushing with a body brush (my kids love to take turns brushing my arms). I use Aveano Complexion face soap and it has had the best results. Twice a day I wash with it. I also like salt scrubs and sugar scrubs. Maybe I should look into the MB12 for myself. > From: Pamela <praboli@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: back of arms- bumps > > Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 9:43 PM > Yeah, but it's only on the back of his arms. My other > child, 2.5 > years, has the same chicken skin, but only on the outer > thighs. Very > strange. > > Pam > > > > > > Is it like chicken skin? It's called Keratois > Pilaris > > > > My son's went away when we started MB12 shots. > > > > Kerrie > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and > nightlife. City's > Best > > 2008. > (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I had those bumps on the back of my arms since I was young. When I started taking the biomed stuff my child takes, they went away. Maybe it was the EFA, or maybe it was the B12 injections. Difficult to tell being I take many supplements, but as I said before, I feel a lot better than before supplementation. My theory was being my son is ASD, maybe he got a genetic predisposition in some way from me; therefore, thought I'd try the sups and see if they made a difference. I'm disease free, but I was alway exhausted with body aches-- all got much better, but I think every mom/dad gets tired caring and trying to recover their ASD child. Pam > > > > > > Is it like chicken skin? It's called Keratois > > Pilaris > > > > > > My son's went away when we started MB12 shots. > > > > > > Kerrie > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and > > nightlife. City's > > Best > > > 2008. > > (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 wow! this is amazing! I think this is what my son has! for sure when he easts oranges he get it in his buttocks. but in his face it almost never goes away, although liver life has improved it. They say skin ailments is a sign of a congested liver. Also, when we went to Costa Rica for vacation, my ds was eating lots of papayas and his face was as best as it has ever been. any other ideas how to resolve this? > > > My son only had it on the back of his arms too > > Kerrie > > In a message dated 6/13/2008 9:43:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > praboli@... writes: > > Yeah, but it's only on the back of his arms. My other child, 2.5 > years, has the same chicken skin, but only on the outer thighs. Very > strange. > > Pam > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I have read that it is a symptom of a deficiency in essential fatty acids. Pamela wrote: > > That's really interesting because I actually have had that and I > just thought maybe I had allergies and just kind of wrote it off > being it didn't have any other side effects. I take most of the > supplements my child takes and the bumpy skin has gone away. > Subsequently, I also feel better emotionally, physically and my > energy level has increased. > > Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it. > > Pam > > > > > > > > I noticed small bumps on the back of my son's arms... anyone > know > > what > > > this could be caused from? My first thought would be food > > > intolerance, but it doesn't seem to get better with dietary > changes. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 > > I noticed small bumps on the back of my son's arms... anyone know what > this could be caused from? My first thought would be food > intolerance, but it doesn't seem to get better with dietary changes. For my #3, these required B vitamins, fish oil with mito cocktail, anti-virals [vitamin C and lysine], and yeast control to eliminate. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 EFA's are omega 3's? On that note, is there anything that omega 3's have to be taken with to absorb them? I have a sneaking suspicion that they are not absorbing well in my son and the fact that he still has his bumps as much as ever might back that up. Blaire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Blaire, Our experience has been that ds needs lipase enzymes to absorb the omega three (for sure), as well as b12 and taurine (I think, couldn't say absolutely for sure on that, but it appears that way). Also I recently switched CLO to a brand actually recommended by the WAPF (Healthspan brand here in the UK) and all of us (me and all three kids) went back to the bumps on the back of our arms. When I returned to the Carlson and Nordic Naturals CLOs, the bumps disappeared. I think it is worthwhile trying a few different brands from my experience. Also, do note that CLO will have less omega 3 than just fish oil. Anita > > EFA's are omega 3's? On that note, is there anything that omega 3's have to be taken with to absorb them? I have a sneaking suspicion that they are not absorbing well in my son and the fact that he still has his bumps as much as ever might back that up. > Blaire > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 > Sorry, also forgot to say that for 3 members of the family, getting sufficient stomach acid has also helped with absorption. We used unbuffered C to do that, and now maintain with lots of fresh lemon juice. Anita > Blaire, > > Our experience has been that ds needs lipase enzymes to absorb the > omega three (for sure), as well as b12 and taurine (I think, couldn't > say absolutely for sure on that, but it appears that way). Also I > recently switched CLO to a brand actually recommended by the WAPF > (Healthspan brand here in the UK) and all of us (me and all three kids) > went back to the bumps on the back of our arms. When I returned to > the Carlson and Nordic Naturals CLOs, the bumps disappeared. I think > it is worthwhile trying a few different brands from my experience. > Also, do note that CLO will have less omega 3 than just fish oil. > > Anita > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Our daughter used to have them on her arms, thighs and cheeks. After a year on biomed they are just about gone, most likely due to an increase in EFA's and a yeast-elimination protocol. She's been on mB12 shots and I've pulled intolerant foods and that made a dent, but I think it's been the changes in the EFAs and yeast that have really made the difference for her. in MD Re: [ ] Re: back of arms- bumps I have read that it is a symptom of a deficiency in essential fatty acids. Pamela wrote: > > That's really interesting because I actually have had that and I > just thought maybe I had allergies and just kind of wrote it off > being it didn't have any other side effects. I take most of the > supplements my child takes and the bumpy skin has gone away. > Subsequently, I also feel better emotionally, physically and my > energy level has increased. > > Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it. > > Pam > > > > > > > > I noticed small bumps on the back of my son's arms... anyone > know > > what > > > this could be caused from? My first thought would be food > > > intolerance, but it doesn't seem to get better with dietary > changes. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Pam > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 > > EFA's are omega 3's? On that note, is there anything that omega 3's have to be taken with to absorb them? At my house, EFAs required mito cocktail for proper absorption, my son had mitochondrial dysfunction. I wrote about what he needed here http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 If you saw the bumps diminish with papaya, I would suggest trying enzymes and see what happens. Pam > > > > > > My son only had it on the back of his arms too > > > > Kerrie > > > > In a message dated 6/13/2008 9:43:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > praboli@ writes: > > > > Yeah, but it's only on the back of his arms. My other child, 2.5 > > years, has the same chicken skin, but only on the outer thighs. Very > > strange. > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's > Best > > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 It can be from a Vit A deficiency as well - so maybe it is about the fat soluble nutrients. Sunlight can also help - as can Urea applied topically. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 does this also cause the lips to become red, irritated, burning and for the kids to be constantly licking their lips? today, we gave him a trienza enzyme and he had a major episode of the lips... he ate some kiwis and one little slice of tomato. It makes me feel very disappointed, I feel that what ever I do, he doesn't get better! help! > > It can be from a Vit A deficiency as well - so maybe it is about the > fat soluble nutrients. > Sunlight can also help - as can Urea applied topically. > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Well, if no one has an answer, this would be an easy experiment to conduct: just use a high-dose vitamin D supplement for a while, and take before and after pictures. By the way, based on data accumulated by ph Prendergast, I, and several others have been getting good results (with absolutely no signs of toxicity) from 50,000iu/day (yes 50,000). This dosage has been responsible for the reversal of both type 1 & 2 diabetes. It turns out that blood levels of 25-hydroxy vitamin D rise far higher DURING full-body sun exposure than anyone realized - levels have always been measured AFTER exposure which revealed little, because levels drop very quickly after exposure ceases. There IS such a thing as Vit.D hypersensitivity, and the rare individual with this genetic condition may need to stay below 3-4,000iu or so, but most people can benefit from far more than they've made use of. I know of an incident involving a compounding pharmacy error whereby an individual was unknowingly consuming 250,000iu/day. When the mistake was discovered, medics were quickly sent to the man's place of residence only to be greeted with a, " Huh, what are you talking about? I feel fine! " > > Hi, I keep hearing that sun exposure sometimes helps the Keratosis Pilaris bumps on the backs of arms and I have a weird question. & nbsp; Is it Vitamin D coursing throughout the body, or the sun itself that helps the bumps? & nbsp; > > In other words, can the sun exposure be on any part of the body-- say, the face, forearms and shins? Or does heavy sun exposure need to be wherever the bumps are located? > > I am religious and dress modestly and so it is difficult to expose my upper arms to sun in most circumstances. > > Liora Pearlman > Moderator, Beiing Organic Consumers' Association (BOCA) > beijing_organic_consumers > > > Ron for President > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 " It can be from a Vit A deficiency as well " Vit.D and A do have antagonistic activity, so higher Vit.D intakes could neccesitate higher Vit.A intakes, especially if you're trying to get a therapeutic effect from A. At a weight of 180lbs., I'm currently combining 30,000iu Vit.A with 50,000iu D, but opinions regarding how to balance the 2 nutrients vary widely. Ultimately, the appropriate ratio will be person dependant and probably should be based on symptomology. > > > > It can be from a Vit A deficiency as well - so maybe it is about the > > fat soluble nutrients. > > Sunlight can also help - as can Urea applied topically. > > > > Gail > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Are you saying he reacted to the enzyme or to the foods? Kiwi and Tomato do cause skin irritation in some people, and the first thing I would check with a reaction like this is whether a food is associated. Vitamin wise this is information that I have on file: Swollen, shiny, red, dry or cracked Lips may occur as a result of Vitamin B2 deficiency. Splitting of the Lips may occur as a result of Vitamin B6 deficiency. Excessive consumption of Vitamin A (especially excessive use of supplemental Vitamin A) may cause chapped Lips. Things that can help - Chamomile oil or Emu oil can soothe the irritation. GSE applied topically can speed healing. Pawpaw balm could also help. Gail > > does this also cause the lips to become red, irritated, burning and > for the kids to be constantly licking their lips? > > today, we gave him a trienza enzyme and he had a major episode of the > lips... he ate some kiwis and one little slice of tomato. It makes me > feel very disappointed, I feel that what ever I do, he doesn't get > better! help! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 > > does this also cause the lips to become red, irritated, burning and > for the kids to be constantly licking their lips? Intolerance and yeast overgrowth can cause this. So can a few deficiencies/toxicities. > today, we gave him a trienza enzyme and he had a major episode of the > lips... he ate some kiwis and one little slice of tomato. Kiwi and tomato were not tolerated here, even with No-Fenol enzyme, because of my son's inability to convert carotenes. It took ALA chelation, selenium, zinc, and vitamin C to correct this problem. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Usually this is EFA deficiency. Barb [ ] back of arms- bumps I noticed small bumps on the back of my son's arms... anyone know what this could be caused from? My first thought would be food intolerance, but it doesn't seem to get better with dietary changes. Thanks, Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I don't know if he reacted to the foods or to the enzymes. today, he was licking his lips, but less. I didn't give him the enzymes. But I know for sure that certain foods must trigger the licking lips situation. I know for sure that he is low on cobalt, so we are going to plan to get vit. b-12 shots tomorrow. Fita > > > > does this also cause the lips to become red, irritated, burning and > > for the kids to be constantly licking their lips? > > > > today, we gave him a trienza enzyme and he had a major episode of the > > lips... he ate some kiwis and one little slice of tomato. It makes me > > feel very disappointed, I feel that what ever I do, he doesn't get > > better! help! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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