Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When my daughter does this, I suspect yeast or phenol. It was under control for quite a while, but we've done a couple of food challenges and the moaning has resurfaced. We are doing NAET treatments and that has been very helpful. We have an appointment today and will have the practitioner try to determine the cause and have her treated again. For information on NAET and practitioners, check out these links . . . http://www.naet.com/subscribers/what.html http://www.naet.com/subscribers/drnamerica.html I've also included a link to Dana's website on bacteria and yeast. It is very informative. http://danasview.net/yeast.htm > > My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Hi there, I hope NAET works for you. We tried it for over a month without success. My Daughter has yeast/phenol issues that I suspect and she is on A.C. Formula by Pure Encapsulation for yeast, fish oil (500mg), Lypo enzyme by Enzymedica, daily Epsom salts baths to help the phenol issues and coconut oil after baths and through out the day on the skin. Yeast is a tough one, even when is dying, it releases really bad toxins. My DD eczema gets worse on yeast treatment as her body gets overload with the yeast die-off toxins. Also getting rid of the yeast will help greatly with food intolerances. Leo .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=416807/grpspId=1705061616/msgId= 214449/stime=1194697152/nc1=4617369/nc2=5008807/nc3=4836032> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Does he seem like he is in pain? It’s more likely a vocal stim. My nonverbal son has these also. " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. " Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rio Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: [ ] I don't know what to do?? My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound constantly. He is non-verbal. He has been doing this since he regressed into autism. I am hoping chelation will help. Since he has been this way before we started biomedical interventions I just don't know what if any supplements are helping or not? His running around and moaning just does not go away. I am thinking of trying B6 and magnesium but I just don't know which brand is good or if it will even help him. It truly breaks my heart to see him this way and I cannot seem to help him. I am desperate for some help or advice please. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Its definitely more like a vocal stim. He is just so hyper. I hope once we get the yeast and clostridia under control he will get better. Pamela Leigh <pamelaleigh@...> wrote: Does he seem like he is in pain? It’s more likely a vocal stim. My nonverbal son has these also. " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. " Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rio Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: [ ] I don't know what to do?? My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound constantly. He is non-verbal. He has been doing this since he regressed into autism. I am hoping chelation will help. Since he has been this way before we started biomedical interventions I just don't know what if any supplements are helping or not? His running around and moaning just does not go away. I am thinking of trying B6 and magnesium but I just don't know which brand is good or if it will even help him. It truly breaks my heart to see him this way and I cannot seem to help him. I am desperate for some help or advice please. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I actually have been taken my son to a NAET practioner. So far we have done clearings on eggs, almonds, a couple of shots and few other things. I also don't know if its working. However his eczema has cleared up quite significantly. With that said now that he is on Nizoral for yeast I have noticed that he has been scratching his eczema spots again. I am thinking its probably die-off. Have either of you done clearings for yeast? I am thinking of trying that and also the B vitamins and vitamin C. Leo, have you tried other enzymes besides the Lypo? I currently give my son Kirkman's complete and I also have No Phenol from Houston which I give to him when ever he eats anything with ketchup. I probably should give him the No-Phenol more often. I need to research what foods are high in phenols. Thank you. Leonarda Gaige <tomandleo@...> wrote: Hi there, I hope NAET works for you. We tried it for over a month without success. My Daughter has yeast/phenol issues that I suspect and she is on A.C. Formula by Pure Encapsulation for yeast, fish oil (500mg), Lypo enzyme by Enzymedica, daily Epsom salts baths to help the phenol issues and coconut oil after baths and through out the day on the skin. Yeast is a tough one, even when is dying, it releases really bad toxins. My DD eczema gets worse on yeast treatment as her body gets overload with the yeast die-off toxins. Also getting rid of the yeast will help greatly with food intolerances. Leo ... <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=416807/grpspId=1705061616/msgId= 214449/stime=1194697152/nc1=4617369/nc2=5008807/nc3=4836032> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Rio, I ordered the no-phenol a few days ago and I am waiting on it. Our Holistic chiropractor tested V-digest by Enzymedica on Kendra and she showed to be weaken by it. He said one of the 3 last ingredients in it might not be good for her. The no-phenols have two of these ingredients, so I will be taking it easy. We tried clearing the yeast with the NAET practitioner, but she said it has to be taken care from the inside out. I will look into the kirkman complete one. As far as food high in phenols: check out the file on PST deficiency. On top of my head, apples, peaches, legumes families. Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 My daughter does the same thing and I think it is yeast in her ears. She doesn't do it as much as she use to, and now when she does, I notice her also touching her ears. > > My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound constantly. He is non-verbal. He has been doing this since he regressed into autism. I am hoping chelation will help. > > Since he has been this way before we started biomedical interventions I just don't know what if any supplements are helping or not? His running around and moaning just does not go away. > > I am thinking of trying B6 and magnesium but I just don't know which brand is good or if it will even help him. > > It truly breaks my heart to see him this way and I cannot seem to help him. I am desperate for some help or advice please. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 > My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound constantly. He is non-verbal. He has been doing this since he regressed into autism. I am hoping chelation will help. This sounds like one of my son's yeast symptoms. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Hi Leo, Our practitioner and others do say that NAET without accupuncture is less effective. We have had to clear some things more than once. But we have seen some improvement. Thanks for sharing your experience and treatments. I too have found that the die-off can be worse than the yeast itself. Orelindel > > Hi there, > > I hope NAET works for you. We tried it for over a month without success. My > Daughter has yeast/phenol issues that I suspect and she is on A.C. Formula > by Pure Encapsulation for yeast, fish oil (500mg), Lypo enzyme by > Enzymedica, daily Epsom salts baths to help the phenol issues and coconut > oil after baths and through out the day on the skin. Yeast is a tough one, > even when is dying, it releases really bad toxins. My DD eczema gets worse > on yeast treatment as her body gets overload with the yeast die- off toxins. > Also getting rid of the yeast will help greatly with food intolerances. > > Leo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 We've done one clearing for yeast and another for candida. I'm going to ask the practitioner to check to see if either shows up as an issue. >Have either of you done clearings for yeast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I know how you feel. Mickie makes sounds with his voice and he is none-verbal too. Chelation does help, but just be patient. It will take time, but it will happen. Mickie is saying Da and De and singing it's a small world and Twinkle, Twinkle little Star after 6 rounds of DMSA and ALA. In the mean time, just know that he can't help it. You'll hear your little boys voice again. Some day this will all seem like a distant nightmare. Zurama On Nov 9, 2007 8:06 PM, Rio <pwigirl@...> wrote: > > > > > > > My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound > constantly. He is non-verbal. He has been doing this since he regressed into > autism. I am hoping chelation will help. > > Since he has been this way before we started biomedical interventions I > just don't know what if any supplements are helping or not? His running > around and moaning just does not go away. > > I am thinking of trying B6 and magnesium but I just don't know which brand > is good or if it will even help him. > > It truly breaks my heart to see him this way and I cannot seem to help him. > I am desperate for some help or advice please. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Please let us know if the clearing for yeast worked. orelindel <whatmattersmost@...> wrote: We've done one clearing for yeast and another for candida. I'm going to ask the practitioner to check to see if either shows up as an issue. >Have either of you done clearings for yeast? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Zurama, Thank you for the encouraging words. Do you know if most kids start talking with just DMSA rounds or does it all happen once you add ALA? Zurama <autismtookmickie@...> wrote: I know how you feel. Mickie makes sounds with his voice and he is none-verbal too. Chelation does help, but just be patient. It will take time, but it will happen. Mickie is saying Da and De and singing it's a small world and Twinkle, Twinkle little Star after 6 rounds of DMSA and ALA. In the mean time, just know that he can't help it. You'll hear your little boys voice again. Some day this will all seem like a distant nightmare. Zurama On Nov 9, 2007 8:06 PM, Rio <pwigirl@...> wrote: > > > > > > > My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound > constantly. He is non-verbal. He has been doing this since he regressed into > autism. I am hoping chelation will help. > > Since he has been this way before we started biomedical interventions I > just don't know what if any supplements are helping or not? His running > around and moaning just does not go away. > > I am thinking of trying B6 and magnesium but I just don't know which brand > is good or if it will even help him. > > It truly breaks my heart to see him this way and I cannot seem to help him. > I am desperate for some help or advice please. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I don't know about other kids, but it does seem to be helping Mickie. The Autism Research Institute reports that parents and docs have reported the most improvement with Chelation Therapy. I'm sure other parents her will answer this question. I sure would like to know too. Hang in there. Zurama On Nov 10, 2007 12:34 PM, Rio <pwigirl@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Zurama, > > Thank you for the encouraging words. > > Do you know if most kids start talking with just DMSA rounds or does it all > happen once you add ALA? > > > > Zurama <autismtookmickie@...> wrote: > I know how you feel. Mickie makes sounds with his voice and he is > none-verbal too. Chelation does help, but just be patient. It will > take time, but it will happen. > Mickie is saying Da and De and singing it's a small world and Twinkle, > Twinkle little Star after 6 rounds of DMSA and ALA. In the mean time, > just know that he can't help it. You'll hear your little boys voice > again. > Some day this will all seem like a distant nightmare. > > Zurama > > On Nov 9, 2007 8:06 PM, Rio <pwigirl@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son is always moaning. He runs around making this moaning like sound > > constantly. He is non-verbal. He has been doing this since he regressed > into > > autism. I am hoping chelation will help. > > > > Since he has been this way before we started biomedical interventions I > > just don't know what if any supplements are helping or not? His running > > around and moaning just does not go away. > > > > I am thinking of trying B6 and magnesium but I just don't know which > brand > > is good or if it will even help him. > > > > It truly breaks my heart to see him this way and I cannot seem to help > him. > > I am desperate for some help or advice please. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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