Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 In a message dated 29/06/2005 20:52:04 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes: Would it not be better to go 4 hourly over this period as recommended by AC for the oral version? >>>>I think so, but them I wouldn;t bother with the great expense of TD, I'd just do the oral Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 But you'd be sparing the gut.... Re: TD DMSA In a message dated 29/06/2005 20:52:04 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes: Would it not be better to go 4 hourly over this period as recommended by AC for the oral version? >>>>I think so, but them I wouldn;t bother with the great expense of TD, I'd just do the oral Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 It might be completely different, though, because of the slower uptake of a TD application. Seems to me we need more info from a doctor, then we can decide whether we agree or not. I have a PC with Dr Bock next week and I'll ask him what he knows about rate of uptake, duration of action etc. Abigail TD DMSA Does anybody have a view on dosings for TD DMSA as we are considering switching Jack on to this to help get rid of lead as well as mercury. I have heard DAN recommendations of 8 hourly applications 3 days on 11 off. Would it not be better to go 4 hourly over this period as recommended by AC for the oral version? Any thoughts would be much appreciated. With best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 I agree Mandi, but was just wanting to avoid the yeast flare ups whch are less likely via the TD route so I 've heard!!! Re: TD DMSA In a message dated 29/06/2005 20:52:04 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes: Would it not be better to go 4 hourly over this period as recommended by AC for the oral version? >>>>I think so, but them I wouldn;t bother with the great expense of TD, I'd just do the oral Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks Abigail that would be really helpful - look forward to hearing what Dr Bock has to say on it!!! Best wishes TD DMSA Does anybody have a view on dosings for TD DMSA as we are considering switching Jack on to this to help get rid of lead as well as mercury. I have heard DAN recommendations of 8 hourly applications 3 days on 11 off. Would it not be better to go 4 hourly over this period as recommended by AC for the oral version? Any thoughts would be much appreciated. With best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think from the CK2 list that someone posted that Dr Buttar is now using TD- DMSA with TD-DMPS - did any one else pick up on that ? it gets so confusing these days as they all seem to have developed different alternative combinations ... !!! I was hoping that this or maybe a different means of input (!) might be what Dr Heard might think we should go for. I was quite interested in ALA too for brain cleansing (!) - but there seems to be but issues with it provoking yeast flares and I don't want that - we have tins of three lac to get through - which i think is good - very easy to get her to take - its like those sherbet tubes of sweets! those of you who have seen Dr H - does he blanket re-recomend gf/cf ? julia xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Hi We spoke to Dr H about TD DMSA. He knew that this was breaking through - suggested we stick with DMPS until Tom's next round of tests; His usual choice would DMSA, that's what he's used to working with. He doesn't insist on anything - just thinks gf/cf is the best idea HTH Steph > > I think from the CK2 list that someone posted that Dr Buttar is now using > TD- DMSA with TD-DMPS - did any one else pick up on that ? it gets so > confusing these days as they all seem to have developed different > alternative combinations ... !!! I was hoping that this or maybe a different > means of input (!) might be what Dr Heard might think we should go for. I > was quite interested in ALA too for brain cleansing (!) - but there seems to > be but issues with it provoking yeast flares and I don't want that - we have > tins of three lac to get through - which i think is good - very easy to get > her to take - its like those sherbet tubes of sweets! > > those of you who have seen Dr H - does he blanket re-recomend gf/cf ? > > julia > xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Hi I think from the CK2 list that someone posted that Dr Buttar is now usingTD- DMSA with TD-DMPS - did any one else pick up on that ? >>>Nope Buttar is doign TD EDTA with TD DMPS NOT DMSA. JMcC has decided TD DMSA is bettter. Actually oral is better IMHO it gets soconfusing these days as they all seem to have developed differentalternative combinations ... !!! >>>I'm having a hard time keeping up too. A lot of the protocols make no sense at all. I was hoping that this or maybe a differentmeans of input (!) might be what Dr Heard might think we should go for. Iwas quite interested in ALA too for brain cleansing (!) - but there seems tobe but issues with it provoking yeast flares and I don't want that - we havetins of three lac to get through - which i think is good - very easy to gether to take - its like those sherbet tubes of sweets! >>>I don't agree with the claim that sulphur chelators cause yeast. I think moving metals causes yeast. We have yeast under control for a year or two now. We did oral EDTa last weekend ( non sulphur) and had our biggest flare in a long time. I think we moved out some MORE Lead those of you who have seen Dr H - does he blanket re-recomend gf/cf ? >>>Nope, to his credit he does not, cookie cutter appraoches are not his thing. he does want peeeps to be sesnible, keep to low sugar, drop the asparatame and MSg and stuff. Thats makes sense for any kid, let alone ours Good luck, do your researech, take a plan to him Mandi in Dorset UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Hi : Andy is not really wild about td anything. But if you are going to give the td version, he would say to use it every 4 hours. I have heard him say. Good luck, TD DMSA Does anyone know whether Andy C has a view on Td DMSA and dosing? We are currently doing 3/11 8 hourly but am wondering whether we should be doing it 4 hourly as per his oral recommendation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 > Thanks , I thought as much - I think I'll half the dose this time round and do it 4 hourly!! > Hi we are switching to TD DMSA when Sam's peeing has calmed down, which it is doing already. Dr Usman recommends TD ALA too, are you doing both? Di > TD DMSA > > > Does anyone know whether Andy C has a view on Td DMSA and dosing? We are currently doing 3/11 8 hourly but am wondering whether we should be doing it 4 hourly as per his oral recommendation? > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi Iknow Td DMSA is not as affective as oral, but does Andy cutler uses this protocal. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 > > Hi > Iknow Td DMSA is not as affective as oral, but does Andy cutler uses > this protocal. Andy's protocol uses oral chelators. He does say that whatever the delivery method the timing is most important. DMSA must be given at intervals of 4 h (or less) around the clock for at least 3 days and 2 nights on, and then as much time off as on. There are several disadvantages to transdermal chelators, they are new faddish products (that are not standardized, and are likely expensive). Oral DMSA is available without prescription. Transdermal DMSA is just one more way for doctors to take control of the patient, order unnecessary procedures and tests, and increase the cash flow in their office. Other disadvantages are mentioned in the archives. J > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 > > > > Hi > > Iknow Td DMSA is not as affective as oral, but does Andy cutler uses > > this protocal. > > > Andy's protocol uses oral chelators. > > He does say that whatever the delivery method the timing is most > important. DMSA must be given at intervals of 4 h (or less) around > the clock for at least 3 days and 2 nights on, and then as much time > off as on. > > There are several disadvantages to transdermal chelators, they are new > faddish products (that are not standardized, and are likely > expensive). Oral DMSA is available without prescription. Transdermal > DMSA is just one more way for doctors to take control of the patient, > order unnecessary procedures and tests, and increase the cash flow in > their office. Other disadvantages are mentioned in the archives. > > J > > > > > > thanks > >thanks , i am glad to join this group. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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