Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 > > > > Yes, that didn't seem to do it either. It almost seemed to gum him > > up more. > > > Actually the one I have taken is Biotics Beta Plus, which has some > other ingredients (lipase, beet concentrate, others). I have plain > ox bile, too, but haven't tried it yet. I have taken lipase alone > before without noticeable benefits. I do find eating raw beet salad > somewhat helpful, but nothing compared to the Beta Plus. > > The usual bile flow supps didn't make much difference in my bile > flow and the Beta Plus has definitely been one of those magical > supplements - some negatives, but important positives, too. > I didn't have totally yellow poops most of the time, but on the > lighter side, and long-standing issues with constipation. These > problems improved completely when I first started the Beta Plus, > though I have had some ups and downs after that. It may be clearing > out some stuff that " gums things up " at times? Not sure. When you say " important positives " , do you mean because you had signs that things were working better? Or did you actually feel better with better bile flow, etc.? I ask because I have assumed on a couple of occasions that when I got the poop looking right, my son would be in a good place. Really, that has not been my experience. He is a pretty variable kid, and is definitely better when he is not constipated, but there have been times when he has had normal looking poops when he was as spectrumy as ever, and times when he is just moving pale stuff and he loses some of the kooky behavior, can focus better, etc. > > > > As I mentioned above I think there have been some negatives for me > with this supp and I suspect it is because something in it is somehow > releasing beasties. I definitely get symptoms with it sometimes > (weird stuff that often occurs with anti-pathogen agents - anxiety, > squirmy, shivery feelings, dizziness, etc), so I tend to take some > activated charcoal with it. Or when the symptoms get bad I drop it > for awhile. Overall, though, it has so much benefit as far as > relieving constipation and " browning up " my poop that I always go > back to it. Also my poop sinks now, like a lead weight. And I feel > much flatter and softer in my upper gut region. These dang beasties! > > I really figured I would have resolved this by now. The other thing > > that did seem to get us moving in the right direction was some > > wormwood/clove/something else anti-parasite stuff. Could a > > significant part of this be parasite related? The parasites turned > > up on his Metametrix stool test. > > > Maybe. I got a protozoan on the Metametrix test. The usual > wormwood/clove/black walnut stuff didn't make a huge difference > for me, but I took these anti-parasitic herbs and got amazing > but short-lived improvements: > > http://www.rain-tree.com/amazon-antiparasite-support.htm > > I felt kind of terrible while taking it, but I slept really, really > well, had vivid, powerful dreams, dumped a large volume of stuff > out of my gut, and when I stopped my head was consistently clear > and I felt good and rested! And...HC actually worked for the first > time ever! Unfortunately, all this faded over a period of about two > weeks and I am more brain fogged than ever. How long did you take it? My kid goes wiggy when I try to pull him off the wormwood/clove/black walnut tincture. I am afraid I have gotten myself between a rock and a hard place here. One woman posted that her kid's doc told her to give her daughter the anti- parasitic for 3 months rather than the 2 weeks typically recommended. > > So I want to take some more of it... > > Anyway, that is my experience. I have no idea how that would be for > a child. Maybe would be worth trying some type of Rx anti- parasitic? > I haven't done this myself because I'm not sure my liver can handle > it, but I think I may have to try at some point. Those are my same concerns for my son. Kind of afraid to try. Thanks , Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.