Re: OT Restraining devices

[Guest guest]

> We need to find a way to restrain a teenager who screams and yells in

> the middle of the night.

Try addressing phenol intolerance and/or yeast overgrowth

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

There are a number of causes of night terrors and nighmares, but all of them are

a result of problems in the gut. I speak from experience here. Screaming at

night (and often in the day as well), comes from a sick digestive system.

My advice is to find a gastrointerologist who regularly works with autisic

kids and get your child there pronto. While you are waiting, you find out as

much as you can about Elaine Gottschall and the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, and

(in my opinion), consider putting him/her on this diet right away. Elaine

Gottschall's daughter was treated successfully for night terrors using the diet

alone. My husband, who does not have autism but who had nightmares (so much

that it was dangerous to be near him when he slept), stopped having them about

two weeks after we started the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. MANY people have had

this experience. Better to heal your child than to restrain him/her, don't you

think?

normafairtest <normafairtest@...> wrote:

We need to find a way to restrain a teenager who screams and yells in

the middle of the night.

Any ideas to make or buy a device that will stop the screaming. Any

ideas for restricting devices for stopping her from hitting?

TYI,

Norma

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[Guest guest]

I agree, find out why, what bodering her......restraining will just be

putting a bandaid on the problem, not to mention it could dangerous. Look

what happened to that poor woman at some airport, can't remember where,

anyways she was restrained and died within minutes........Zurama

On 10/21/07, bnana <thisiskathys@...> wrote:

>

> There are a number of causes of night terrors and nighmares, but all of

> them are a result of problems in the gut. I speak from experience here.

> Screaming at night (and often in the day as well), comes from a sick

> digestive system.

>

> My advice is to find a gastrointerologist who regularly works with autisic

> kids and get your child there pronto. While you are waiting, you find out as

> much as you can about Elaine Gottschall and the Specific Carbohydrate Diet,

> and (in my opinion), consider putting him/her on this diet right away.

> Elaine Gottschall's daughter was treated successfully for night terrors

> using the diet alone. My husband, who does not have autism but who had

> nightmares (so much that it was dangerous to be near him when he slept),

> stopped having them about two weeks after we started the Specific

> Carbohydrate Diet. MANY people have had this experience. Better to heal your

> child than to restrain him/her, don't you think?

>

>

>

> normafairtest <normafairtest@... <normafairtest%40>> wrote:

> We need to find a way to restrain a teenager who screams and yells in

> the middle of the night.

>

> Any ideas to make or buy a device that will stop the screaming. Any

> ideas for restricting devices for stopping her from hitting?

>

> TYI,

> Norma

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Chances are she is having subclinical seizures. Get her to a

neurologist. Try modified atkins diet. They have a group.

nne

>

> We need to find a way to restrain a teenager who screams and yells in

> the middle of the night.

>

> Any ideas to make or buy a device that will stop the screaming. Any

> ideas for restricting devices for stopping her from hitting?

>

> TYI,

> Norma

>

[Guest guest]

My experience tends to support the previous poster's

thought that night terrors are due to a gut issue.

My (then age 8) child's longterm night time kicking,

thrashing, and verbalizing disappeared when we started

giving her Houston enzymes with all meals and snacks.

The behavior started up again whenever we took a break

from enzymes; I got the sense that NoFenol was the one

enzyme that most helped reduce this.

Sue

> We need to find a way to restrain a teenager who screams and yells

in

> the middle of the night.

>

> Any ideas to make or buy a device that will stop the screaming. Any

> ideas for restricting devices for stopping her from hitting?

>

> TYI,

> Norma

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I just have to cast another vote for " find out WHY she is screaming " NOT just

restraining her. This is " treating " a symptom but not the cause. It also

can be emotionally damaging and traumatic for the person who is already

suffering. It may be helpful to those who are being disturbed by the screaming

but it

is not helpful to the person who is suffering. posted a wonderful list

of questions that can start your detective work. Leave no stone unturned.

As long as she is still screaming, the thing that is torturing her is still

present. My daughter used to go in full fledged panic simply from the dark so

add that to the list of questions to be tried by trying a simple night light but

then start working through 's list of questions.

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[Guest guest]

For my kids, night terrors, were caused by food or supp intolerances,

and yeast issues. High phenol foods also added to the misery. What

we have found to do is to try to keep the yeast under

control....lol...a major issue at our house...and give no fenol at

night before bed along with epsom salt lotions. This combo has been

the best for us.

hth

Ronni

> My experience tends to support the previous poster's

> thought that night terrors are due to a gut issue.

> My (then age 8) child's longterm night time kicking,

> thrashing, and verbalizing disappeared when we started

> giving her Houston enzymes with all meals and snacks.

> The behavior started up again whenever we took a break

> from enzymes; I got the sense that NoFenol was the one

> enzyme that most helped reduce this.

>

> Sue

>

>

> > We need to find a way to restrain a teenager who

screams and yells in

> > the middle of the night.

> >

> > Any ideas to make or buy a device that will stop the screaming.

Any

> > ideas for restricting devices for stopping her from hitting?

> >

> > TYI,

> > Norma

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

I am sure you are trying other options besides just restraint.... Why

else would you be asking questions of this group? In the mean time,

while you are waiting for all the biomedical to help, your family

needs to cope, too! If you are all frazzled to the point of breakdown

from lack of sleep and the stress of having aggression aimed at you,

you will be no good to anyone, much less your child. You can only

listen to so much screaming without wanting to scream yourself.

Have you tried anything to help your child sleep better? Time release

melatonin has helped us, but I've also heard those that say it

increases nightmares. So if you're using it, you could try not using

it - in case it's causing nightmares. And if you're not using it,

perhaps give it a try. Otherwise I don't know of any actual restraint

devices to stop screaming, while you are hoping for your child to get

better.

As far as hitting that is a real problem that should be taken

seriously. There are courses/seminars in NonViolent Crisis

Intervention that can teach you how to protect yourself in a way that

is unlikely to hurt your child. Your school district should be able

to give you some information about that - usually ISD's offer that

kind of training for teachers, and maybe families too.

Do you have any respite care for you to get a break?

Good luck,

Patty

[Guest guest]

Just my two cents Mickie's worse times at nights were because he suffered

from malabsorbtion Once I new that then I could work with it and in time he

stopped waking up screaming and crying.

Zurama

On 10/22/07, Patty <pallygoo@...> wrote:

>

> I am sure you are trying other options besides just restraint.... Why

> else would you be asking questions of this group? In the mean time,

> while you are waiting for all the biomedical to help, your family

> needs to cope, too! If you are all frazzled to the point of breakdown

> from lack of sleep and the stress of having aggression aimed at you,

> you will be no good to anyone, much less your child. You can only

> listen to so much screaming without wanting to scream yourself.

>

> Have you tried anything to help your child sleep better? Time release

> melatonin has helped us, but I've also heard those that say it

> increases nightmares. So if you're using it, you could try not using

> it - in case it's causing nightmares. And if you're not using it,

> perhaps give it a try. Otherwise I don't know of any actual restraint

> devices to stop screaming, while you are hoping for your child to get

> better.

>

> As far as hitting that is a real problem that should be taken

> seriously. There are courses/seminars in NonViolent Crisis

> Intervention that can teach you how to protect yourself in a way that

> is unlikely to hurt your child. Your school district should be able

> to give you some information about that - usually ISD's offer that

> kind of training for teachers, and maybe families too.

>

> Do you have any respite care for you to get a break?

>

> Good luck,

>

> Patty

>

>

>