RE: Re: Thyroid test results- new question

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Thanks!

in MD

[ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

>

> In primary (meaning the problem is with the thyroid) hypothyroidism

> the TSH is low.

>

> In secondary hypothyroidism (when the problem is in the pituitary,

> where it likely is with mercury poisoning) the TSH can be low, normal,

> or high. Doctors should know this but they don't.

>

> Google 'secondary hypothyroidism'.

>

> J

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>> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

>> > Free T4 - 1.04

>> > Free T3 - 3.22

>> > Total T3 - 152

>> >

>> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

>> >

>> > According to the files section I believe everything seems like it's in

>> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

>> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal function

>> > alone? Any thoughts here?

>> >

>> > Thank you listmates!

>> > Tina

>> >

>>

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Dear ,

I realize I'm only a doctor, but it doesn't seem logical to me that TSH would be

low in primary hypothyroidism. The purpose of TSH is to stimulate the thyroid;

if the thyroid itself is defective, then the pituitary should be stimulating for

all it's worth, resulting in a high TSH. This is actually what most doctors

believe is the case: high TSH=primary hypothyroidism. It also seems unlikely

that if the pituitary is defective that it would be producing high amounts of

TSH. Additionally, if the thyroid in secondary hypothyroidism is functionally

intact (which it is), it should respond to an elevated level of TSH by

increasing the production of thyroid hormone, resulting in a hyperthyroid

condition. I agree with you that TSH in secondary hypothyroidism could be low

or normal, but it would be very unusual for it to be high.

Jim

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Subject: [ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

In primary (meaning the problem is with the thyroid) hypothyroidism

the TSH is low.

In secondary hypothyroidism (when the problem is in the pituitary,

where it likely is with mercury poisoning) the TSH can be low, normal,

or high. Doctors should know this but they don't.

Google 'secondary hypothyroidism'.

J

> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

> > Free T4 - 1.04

> > Free T3 - 3.22

> > Total T3 - 152

> >

> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

> >

> > According to the files section I believe everything seems like it's in

> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal function

> > alone? Any thoughts here?

> >

> > Thank you listmates!

> > Tina

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Which leads me back to my original question: If my TSH level is .92 (I

couldn't get her to test T3 & 4), what does this mean? According to my doc,

I'm within normal levels, but, clearly, my hormones are out of whack. Aside

from adrenal fatigue, I'm cold alot, I've been losing hair though my skin is

not abnormally dry, no libido, can be irritable at times, chronic fatigue,

memory dysfunction, palpitations, breathlessness, generally thin, preferring

sweet and salty, hate getting out of bed, hate stress (used to sort of

thrive on it), sometimes 'crash' after meals...

Perhaps there's not enough to go on, yet? As you might expect, my metabolic

panel came back normal, so did blood work...as usual...nothing's showing up

but I am SO not myself...

Anything jumping out at anyone? I'm taking 1 capsule of ACE, any more of

that and I'm irritable, grumpy and a general pain in the you-know-what. I'm

also taking a boatload of vitamins...

in MD

[ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

>

>

>

>

> In primary (meaning the problem is with the thyroid) hypothyroidism

> the TSH is low.

>

> In secondary hypothyroidism (when the problem is in the pituitary,

> where it likely is with mercury poisoning) the TSH can be low, normal,

> or high. Doctors should know this but they don't.

>

> Google 'secondary hypothyroidism'.

>

> J

>

>

>> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

>> > Free T4 - 1.04

>> > Free T3 - 3.22

>> > Total T3 - 152

>> >

>> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

>> >

>> > According to the files section I believe everything seems like it's in

>> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

>> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal function

>> > alone? Any thoughts here?

>> >

>> > Thank you listmates!

>> > Tina

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can't tell anything by just the TSH. Without the Free T3 and T4 it's

impossible to know what the thyroid is doing. Allopathic drs THINK they can

tell what is going on with just the TSH, but they're incorrect.

[ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

>

>

>

>

> In primary (meaning the problem is with the thyroid) hypothyroidism

> the TSH is low.

>

> In secondary hypothyroidism (when the problem is in the pituitary,

> where it likely is with mercury poisoning) the TSH can be low, normal,

> or high. Doctors should know this but they don't.

>

> Google 'secondary hypothyroidism'.

>

> J

>

>

>> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

>> > Free T4 - 1.04

>> > Free T3 - 3.22

>> > Total T3 - 152

>> >

>> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

>> >

>> > According to the files section I believe everything seems like it's in

>> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

>> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal function

>> > alone? Any thoughts here?

>> >

>> > Thank you listmates!

>> > Tina

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

IMHO, find another dr, there is no shortage of them and I'm against supporting

drs who won't run the tests that might actually help you figure out what is

going on.

[ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

>

>

>

>

> In primary (meaning the problem is with the thyroid) hypothyroidism

> the TSH is low.

>

> In secondary hypothyroidism (when the problem is in the pituitary,

> where it likely is with mercury poisoning) the TSH can be low, normal,

> or high. Doctors should know this but they don't.

>

> Google 'secondary hypothyroidism'.

>

> J

>

>

>> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

>> > Free T4 - 1.04

>> > Free T3 - 3.22

>> > Total T3 - 152

>> >

>> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

>> >

>> > According to the files section I believe everything seems like it's in

>> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

>> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal function

>> > alone? Any thoughts here?

>> >

>> > Thank you listmates!

>> > Tina

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes...I have the saliva collected, just waiting to do the 3 days of temps.

Maybe I'll finally get an answer. In the meantime, thank you for the

link...I'll check it out...

in MD

[ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

> Chart your body temps and see if they are all low or all low but

> fluctuating. Visit : www.stopthethyroidmaddness.com

>

> Also consider doing a saliva test for your adrenals, you might need

> HC instead of ACE.

>

>

>

>> >> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

>> >> > Free T4 - 1.04

>> >> > Free T3 - 3.22

>> >> > Total T3 - 152

>> >> >

>> >> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

>> >> >

>> >> > According to the files section I believe everything seems

> like it's in

>> >> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

>> >> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal

> function

>> >> > alone? Any thoughts here?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thank you listmates!

>> >> > Tina

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

AMEN to that...after this whole disappointing deal...I'm done.

in MD

[ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In primary (meaning the problem is with the thyroid) hypothyroidism

> > the TSH is low.

> >

> > In secondary hypothyroidism (when the problem is in the pituitary,

> > where it likely is with mercury poisoning) the TSH can be low, normal,

> > or high. Doctors should know this but they don't.

> >

> > Google 'secondary hypothyroidism'.

> >

> > J

> >

> >

> >> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

> >> > Free T4 - 1.04

> >> > Free T3 - 3.22

> >> > Total T3 - 152

> >> >

> >> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

> >> >

> >> > According to the files section I believe everything seems like it's

> in

> >> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

> >> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal function

> >> > alone? Any thoughts here?

> >> >

> >> > Thank you listmates!

> >> > Tina

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I suspected as much. I couldn't convince her to do

otherwise...sigh...darned insurance companies!

in MD

[ ] Re: Thyroid test results- new question

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In primary (meaning the problem is with the thyroid) hypothyroidism

> > the TSH is low.

> >

> > In secondary hypothyroidism (when the problem is in the pituitary,

> > where it likely is with mercury poisoning) the TSH can be low, normal,

> > or high. Doctors should know this but they don't.

> >

> > Google 'secondary hypothyroidism'.

> >

> > J

> >

> >

> >> > TSH- 2.63 (was 3.28 2 weeks ago??)

> >> > Free T4 - 1.04

> >> > Free T3 - 3.22

> >> > Total T3 - 152

> >> >

> >> > Anti-Thyroid - Less than 20

> >> >

> >> > According to the files section I believe everything seems like it's

> in

> >> > normal range. Could there be another explanation for low body

> >> > temperature, sweating issues, and fatigue? Poor adrenal function

> >> > alone? Any thoughts here?

> >> >

> >> > Thank you listmates!

> >> > Tina

> >> >

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