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Hello,

There is a lot of talk on the Lyme/autism list about this mineral

supplement. I am hoping Andy can comment on the plausibility of this

very simple substance/hypothesis... It seems like someone who

understands chemistry and the body might be able to comment...

Thanks in advance,

Ashi

This Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS for short) was discovered in

2000 by Jim Humble. At the time, he was using activated Oxygen water,

which have been around for 80 years and consists of Sodium Chlorite

in distilled water to cure a large percentage of Malaria victims in

Africa and South America, as well as eliminating parasites and

numerous other weird diseases you often hear about from third world

countries.

Jim was not satisfied with partial success and his research led him

to discover that if you mix a citric acid solution (or lemon juice,

or vinegar) with the Sodium Chlorite, and wait 3 minutes to activate,

it would produce Chlorine Dioxide, perhaps the worlds best pathogen

killer of all time. He had 100% cure rate of over 75,000 malaria

patients and 388 out of 390 documented aids patients. It was achieved

by using the MMS to create Chlorine Dioxide. Additionally, countless

Aids, Hepatitis A, B and C cases were cured.—Not just improved, cured!

Why haven't I heard about this? (You ask) Because a simple

inexpensive cure is suppressed by the pharmaceutical companies, and

the FDA here in the U.S., especially if it is easy to obtain, is dirt

cheap and can be made in your kitchen. In other words, there is no

money in it since it is a fairly quick and cheap cure, not a drug you

must buy forever!

As most of you know, Cancer, Diabetes, ulcers, Lyme disease, pain of

all types and even arthritis is said to be caused by microbes. What

you may not know is thatmicrobes are now thought to be " pleomorphic " .

(Please remember this term—there will be a quiz later.) Pleomorphic

means that a benign (that means harmless) microbe can mutate into

bacteria, viral forms. fungus and then back to a virus or that the

same microbe can take on different morphologies; for instance the

most common Lyme microbe, Borrelia burgdorferi can exist balled up in

a capsule or cyst form or can exist in a cell wall-deficient form

know as the L-form as well as in two other forms. (Forgive me-I am

getting way too technical here)

In other words, microbial form is environmentally dependant. These

buggers are smart and it is the reason why antibiotics (which are

only good for killing certain bacteria) are often totally ineffective-

- especially when Dr's are trying to kill a virus with an antibiotic.

Fortunately for each of us individually and for mankind in general,

Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus,

bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead—sayonara.

And guess what, a two year supply is about $20.

Is it safe? Yes. Extremely safe. It is not the same as Chlorine added

to the city water supply to sterilize the water. That Chlorine will

form all types of " Chlorides " which are often carcinogenic and have

shown to cause arthrosclerosis. (A big word that means artery

problems).

Inside the body, chlorine dioxide breaks down into 2 oxygen atoms and

a minute amount of table salt , when it is finished killing the bad

guys. Then it is excreted from the body within a few hours.

Now for the details on how you can clear your body of viruses, mold,

unfriendly bacteria and parasites so you can feel better and

eliminate many health issues. Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no

known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system.

(It doesn't get much better than that)

The goal is to work your way up to approximately 15 drops of MMS a

day without any adverse effects. (We will talk about those a bit

later) Here is exactly what you do.

1. Buy a bottle of MMS from your local supplier for the ungodly price

of $20. It should last you between 1 and 2 years.

2. Buy Citric Acid Powder from your local health food store.

3. Put 1 TBS of the Citric Acid Powder into a container and add 9 TBS

of distilled or purified water to the powder. This is now a 10%

solution of the Citric Acid Powder and is the " activator " for the MMS

to produce the Chlorine Dioxide.

4. Put the daily dose of MMS drops into a glass and add 5 drops of

the citric acid solution for each drop of the MMS in the glass.

5. Wait at least 3 minutes, but no more than ½ hour, for the

activation to occur.

6. Add 4 to 8 ounces of apple, or pineapple juice that has no vitamin

C added and then chug it down—(or sip it slowly)—your call.

Getting started:

Start with 2 drops of MMS and follow the instructions above. If you

have Lyme disease, start with ½ to 1 drop. Listen up! We are serious;

do not start with more than 2 drops on your first dose! Here is why—

When there is a large " die-off " of pathogens in the blood, your body

will give you indications of how much is too much. You may get a

slight headache, diarrhea, or feel some nausea. All of these healing

reactions are indicating that something good is happening in your

body. But we don't want to go overboard and be uncomfortable or feel

a little crappy.

So again, start small with 2 drops or less—this is powerful stuff!

Please believe hundreds of people (and yours truly) who had to show

their testosterone and start with 15 drops right out of the chute—

(Not a good idea)

• Each day thereafter add 1 more drop and see if you sense any of the

suggested reactions. If so, hold at that level or even back down a

drop for a few days and then start the upward progression again. Your

body will tell you if you are going too fast. It may take a couple of

weeks to work up to the 15 drops. Big Deal. You are in the process of

fixing a very long term health issue and it may take a little time.

Once you are able to take 15 drops a day for 30 days with no

reaction, you can back off to a maintenance dose of 6 drops a day of

MMS for maintenance to keep your body clear of the pathogens we

acquire daily from our food, water and air. Oh, and by the way, the

inventor, Jim Humble, is convinced this product alone will add 20

years to your life span. Currently he is 72 and feisty as hell.

Rules of Thumb: • Do not take with any vitamin C supplements or

juices with " added " ascorbic acid. It will negate, nullify and make

the MMS ineffective. ellies apple juice from the health food

store is ideal as it has no added vitamin C.

• Take the MMS as far away (time wise) from other medications as

possible.

• Take your MMS about 1 hour after dinner or before you go to bed.

(Lots of healing occurs when you are asleep)

• If you have acute inflammation or are extremely sick anyway and

don't care about the possible side effects of overloading on the MMS,

start with a bigger dose (follow your intuition) and you should see

significantly faster results although you may pay a small price for

the jump start in the way of headache, diarrhea or nausea.

• Depending on the seriousness of your condition and if your body can

handle it, you may want tot take 10 drops of MMS 3 times a day.

• Children should take proportionally less because of their weight.

• In an emergency situation, some people take a dose every hour until

the issue subsides.

• MMS does pass the blood brain barrier and many can feel it working

in their brain.

• You can use water instead of the suggested juices above, but in 4

or 5 days the odor is a bit like bleach and is a little tough to

take. So most people prefer juice. (Without vitamin C—No Orange juice

or grapefruit juice!)

• One other side effect that occasionally occurs is extremely

fragrant stools—so just be aware. We are dealing with a lot of dead

organisms and the smell of death can be unpleasant.

• A truly healthy person can take 15 drops the first day and show no

side effects. This is extremely rare, however, and we do not

recommend trying this!

• Brush your teeth with this stuff! 3-4 drops of MMS, add the Citric

acid solution and ¼ glass of water. Can get rid of gum disease and

solidify the teeth in the gums.

If you have and questions, e-mail Jim Humble at

http://www.miraclemineral.org.

You may also order his book and learn of 3 sources to purchase the

MMS here in the U.S. and Canada.

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Not Andy, but there is a product by American Biologics, called Dioxychlor D3,

which I read about a long while back, wondering if it is similiar or the same

thing. Appears that chlorine Dioxide's primary purpose is to disinfect water,

interesting.

[ ] Question for Andy: Is this plausible? Mineral

Supplement/Salt

Hello,

There is a lot of talk on the Lyme/autism list about this mineral

supplement. I am hoping Andy can comment on the plausibility of this

very simple substance/hypothesis... It seems like someone who

understands chemistry and the body might be able to comment...

Thanks in advance,

Ashi

This Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS for short) was discovered in

2000 by Jim Humble. At the time, he was using activated Oxygen water,

which have been around for 80 years and consists of Sodium Chlorite

in distilled water to cure a large percentage of Malaria victims in

Africa and South America, as well as eliminating parasites and

numerous other weird diseases you often hear about from third world

countries.

Jim was not satisfied with partial success and his research led him

to discover that if you mix a citric acid solution (or lemon juice,

or vinegar) with the Sodium Chlorite, and wait 3 minutes to activate,

it would produce Chlorine Dioxide, perhaps the worlds best pathogen

killer of all time. He had 100% cure rate of over 75,000 malaria

patients and 388 out of 390 documented aids patients. It was achieved

by using the MMS to create Chlorine Dioxide. Additionally, countless

Aids, Hepatitis A, B and C cases were cured.-Not just improved, cured!

Why haven't I heard about this? (You ask) Because a simple

inexpensive cure is suppressed by the pharmaceutical companies, and

the FDA here in the U.S., especially if it is easy to obtain, is dirt

cheap and can be made in your kitchen. In other words, there is no

money in it since it is a fairly quick and cheap cure, not a drug you

must buy forever!

As most of you know, Cancer, Diabetes, ulcers, Lyme disease, pain of

all types and even arthritis is said to be caused by microbes. What

you may not know is thatmicrobes are now thought to be " pleomorphic " .

(Please remember this term-there will be a quiz later.) Pleomorphic

means that a benign (that means harmless) microbe can mutate into

bacteria, viral forms. fungus and then back to a virus or that the

same microbe can take on different morphologies; for instance the

most common Lyme microbe, Borrelia burgdorferi can exist balled up in

a capsule or cyst form or can exist in a cell wall-deficient form

know as the L-form as well as in two other forms. (Forgive me-I am

getting way too technical here)

In other words, microbial form is environmentally dependant. These

buggers are smart and it is the reason why antibiotics (which are

only good for killing certain bacteria) are often totally ineffective-

- especially when Dr's are trying to kill a virus with an antibiotic.

Fortunately for each of us individually and for mankind in general,

Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus,

bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead-sayonara.

And guess what, a two year supply is about $20.

Is it safe? Yes. Extremely safe. It is not the same as Chlorine added

to the city water supply to sterilize the water. That Chlorine will

form all types of " Chlorides " which are often carcinogenic and have

shown to cause arthrosclerosis. (A big word that means artery

problems).

Inside the body, chlorine dioxide breaks down into 2 oxygen atoms and

a minute amount of table salt , when it is finished killing the bad

guys. Then it is excreted from the body within a few hours.

Now for the details on how you can clear your body of viruses, mold,

unfriendly bacteria and parasites so you can feel better and

eliminate many health issues. Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no

known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system.

(It doesn't get much better than that)

The goal is to work your way up to approximately 15 drops of MMS a

day without any adverse effects. (We will talk about those a bit

later) Here is exactly what you do.

1. Buy a bottle of MMS from your local supplier for the ungodly price

of $20. It should last you between 1 and 2 years.

2. Buy Citric Acid Powder from your local health food store.

3. Put 1 TBS of the Citric Acid Powder into a container and add 9 TBS

of distilled or purified water to the powder. This is now a 10%

solution of the Citric Acid Powder and is the " activator " for the MMS

to produce the Chlorine Dioxide.

4. Put the daily dose of MMS drops into a glass and add 5 drops of

the citric acid solution for each drop of the MMS in the glass.

5. Wait at least 3 minutes, but no more than ½ hour, for the

activation to occur.

6. Add 4 to 8 ounces of apple, or pineapple juice that has no vitamin

C added and then chug it down-(or sip it slowly)-your call.

Getting started:

Start with 2 drops of MMS and follow the instructions above. If you

have Lyme disease, start with ½ to 1 drop. Listen up! We are serious;

do not start with more than 2 drops on your first dose! Here is why-

When there is a large " die-off " of pathogens in the blood, your body

will give you indications of how much is too much. You may get a

slight headache, diarrhea, or feel some nausea. All of these healing

reactions are indicating that something good is happening in your

body. But we don't want to go overboard and be uncomfortable or feel

a little crappy.

So again, start small with 2 drops or less-this is powerful stuff!

Please believe hundreds of people (and yours truly) who had to show

their testosterone and start with 15 drops right out of the chute-

(Not a good idea)

. Each day thereafter add 1 more drop and see if you sense any of the

suggested reactions. If so, hold at that level or even back down a

drop for a few days and then start the upward progression again. Your

body will tell you if you are going too fast. It may take a couple of

weeks to work up to the 15 drops. Big Deal. You are in the process of

fixing a very long term health issue and it may take a little time.

Once you are able to take 15 drops a day for 30 days with no

reaction, you can back off to a maintenance dose of 6 drops a day of

MMS for maintenance to keep your body clear of the pathogens we

acquire daily from our food, water and air. Oh, and by the way, the

inventor, Jim Humble, is convinced this product alone will add 20

years to your life span. Currently he is 72 and feisty as hell.

Rules of Thumb: . Do not take with any vitamin C supplements or

juices with " added " ascorbic acid. It will negate, nullify and make

the MMS ineffective. ellies apple juice from the health food

store is ideal as it has no added vitamin C.

. Take the MMS as far away (time wise) from other medications as

possible.

. Take your MMS about 1 hour after dinner or before you go to bed.

(Lots of healing occurs when you are asleep)

. If you have acute inflammation or are extremely sick anyway and

don't care about the possible side effects of overloading on the MMS,

start with a bigger dose (follow your intuition) and you should see

significantly faster results although you may pay a small price for

the jump start in the way of headache, diarrhea or nausea.

. Depending on the seriousness of your condition and if your body can

handle it, you may want tot take 10 drops of MMS 3 times a day.

. Children should take proportionally less because of their weight.

. In an emergency situation, some people take a dose every hour until

the issue subsides.

. MMS does pass the blood brain barrier and many can feel it working

in their brain.

. You can use water instead of the suggested juices above, but in 4

or 5 days the odor is a bit like bleach and is a little tough to

take. So most people prefer juice. (Without vitamin C-No Orange juice

or grapefruit juice!)

. One other side effect that occasionally occurs is extremely

fragrant stools-so just be aware. We are dealing with a lot of dead

organisms and the smell of death can be unpleasant.

. A truly healthy person can take 15 drops the first day and show no

side effects. This is extremely rare, however, and we do not

recommend trying this!

. Brush your teeth with this stuff! 3-4 drops of MMS, add the Citric

acid solution and ¼ glass of water. Can get rid of gum disease and

solidify the teeth in the gums.

If you have and questions, e-mail Jim Humble at

http://www.miraclemineral.org.

You may also order his book and learn of 3 sources to purchase the

MMS here in the U.S. and Canada.

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This recipe makes chlorine gas, too.

Kills everything. Worked really well on enemy soldiers in WW I - so well it is

banned by the

Geneva Conventions.

Maybe not the best thing to try on your kids.

I don't believe the cure rates, they're too high to be real. With those numbers

even if this

was the 'magic bullet,' something random would have happened to some of the

people so

that one could not legitimately be sure they were cured.

You're basically just giving yourself a strong oxidizing agent. Not clear to me

why that

would either help or be particuarly selective.

Andy

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I wonder how they reconcile these two claims below??

That must be some extremely charming and friendly bacteria to avoid

such a ruthless killer. Or else they're really invested in making

this substance look *perfect*.

> Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus,

> bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead—sayonara.

>

> Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no

> known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system.

> (It doesn't get much better than that)

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>

> I wonder how they reconcile these two claims below??

You can't. One of them is necessarily incorrect. I stand by my correct claim

that ClO2 is a

nonselective biocide and believe the first one below to be accurate.

> That must be some extremely charming and friendly bacteria to avoid

> such a ruthless killer. Or else they're really invested in making

> this substance look *perfect*.

>

>

>

> > Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus,

> > bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead—sayonara.

> >

>

>

> > Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no

> > known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system.

> > (It doesn't get much better than that)

>

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Just my two cents. I am in several groups and in

reversingautism suggests beginning with only 1/4 drop and staying at

that level for some time if used with children. Please don't give

too much to anyone - if tried, take this very slowly.... Just make

the solution with one drop sodium chlorite (mms)/ 5 drops of lemon

juice or citric acid solution; then discard 75% of the mixture (or

share) This will provide 1/4 drop. There are some videos on

youtube.com

The MMS is (stabilized oxygen) sodium chlorite (yes, chlorite) and

when citric acid/lemon juice or vinegar is added becomes Chlorine

Dioxide. I've just ordered a bottle from ebay for $10.88 w/ free

shipping and will give it a try on me and my husband first. Also,

our son is 20, so not worried about giving to a young child. We are

going to begin (adults) with only 1 drop to try it out and will take

this very slowly.

Lin

>

>

> I am curious about this too - for an OT reason (altho maybe it will

> apply to people here as well). I keep chickens, and they are very

> prone to respiratory illnesses; someone told me that " Halox " , some

> stabilised form of chlorine dioxide, could be aerosolised by the

birds

> and inhaled to keep resp. illnesses at bay and/or help to cure them.

>

> I wasn't sure about safety, so I never tried it. Of course, now I

am

> wondering if it *is* safe and worth testing for efficacy. And if it

> is safe for chickens to inhale, maybe it is safe for people to

inhale

> - which would really be something for when people get

> colds/respiratory infections.

>

> I am not so keen on them saying it breaks down to O2 and table salt.

> Sodium chloride doesn't have any chlorine. Where does the chlorine

go?

>

> > it would produce Chlorine Dioxide, perhaps the worlds best

pathogen

> > killer of all time. He had 100% cure rate of over 75,000 malaria

> > patients and 388 out of 390 documented aids patients. It was

achieved

> > by using the MMS to create Chlorine Dioxide. Additionally,

countless

> > Aids, Hepatitis A, B and C cases were cured.—Not just improved,

cured!

> >

>

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  • 1 month later...

A group of products sold by nzymes.com has been very effetive in

treating chronic yeast in my dog. Their Oxy-drops is 5% Sodium

Chlorite. Not realy a miracle, just a general killer of parasitic

fungus. Sodium chlorite is similar to bleach and is used in

mouthwash, eye drops and as a food perservative.

I don't have any experience with MMS.

Note of caution: I saw one abstract indicating that sodium chlorite

breaks down glutithione.

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