Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Hello, There is a lot of talk on the Lyme/autism list about this mineral supplement. I am hoping Andy can comment on the plausibility of this very simple substance/hypothesis... It seems like someone who understands chemistry and the body might be able to comment... Thanks in advance, Ashi This Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS for short) was discovered in 2000 by Jim Humble. At the time, he was using activated Oxygen water, which have been around for 80 years and consists of Sodium Chlorite in distilled water to cure a large percentage of Malaria victims in Africa and South America, as well as eliminating parasites and numerous other weird diseases you often hear about from third world countries. Jim was not satisfied with partial success and his research led him to discover that if you mix a citric acid solution (or lemon juice, or vinegar) with the Sodium Chlorite, and wait 3 minutes to activate, it would produce Chlorine Dioxide, perhaps the worlds best pathogen killer of all time. He had 100% cure rate of over 75,000 malaria patients and 388 out of 390 documented aids patients. It was achieved by using the MMS to create Chlorine Dioxide. Additionally, countless Aids, Hepatitis A, B and C cases were cured.—Not just improved, cured! Why haven't I heard about this? (You ask) Because a simple inexpensive cure is suppressed by the pharmaceutical companies, and the FDA here in the U.S., especially if it is easy to obtain, is dirt cheap and can be made in your kitchen. In other words, there is no money in it since it is a fairly quick and cheap cure, not a drug you must buy forever! As most of you know, Cancer, Diabetes, ulcers, Lyme disease, pain of all types and even arthritis is said to be caused by microbes. What you may not know is thatmicrobes are now thought to be " pleomorphic " . (Please remember this term—there will be a quiz later.) Pleomorphic means that a benign (that means harmless) microbe can mutate into bacteria, viral forms. fungus and then back to a virus or that the same microbe can take on different morphologies; for instance the most common Lyme microbe, Borrelia burgdorferi can exist balled up in a capsule or cyst form or can exist in a cell wall-deficient form know as the L-form as well as in two other forms. (Forgive me-I am getting way too technical here) In other words, microbial form is environmentally dependant. These buggers are smart and it is the reason why antibiotics (which are only good for killing certain bacteria) are often totally ineffective- - especially when Dr's are trying to kill a virus with an antibiotic. Fortunately for each of us individually and for mankind in general, Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus, bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead—sayonara. And guess what, a two year supply is about $20. Is it safe? Yes. Extremely safe. It is not the same as Chlorine added to the city water supply to sterilize the water. That Chlorine will form all types of " Chlorides " which are often carcinogenic and have shown to cause arthrosclerosis. (A big word that means artery problems). Inside the body, chlorine dioxide breaks down into 2 oxygen atoms and a minute amount of table salt , when it is finished killing the bad guys. Then it is excreted from the body within a few hours. Now for the details on how you can clear your body of viruses, mold, unfriendly bacteria and parasites so you can feel better and eliminate many health issues. Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system. (It doesn't get much better than that) The goal is to work your way up to approximately 15 drops of MMS a day without any adverse effects. (We will talk about those a bit later) Here is exactly what you do. 1. Buy a bottle of MMS from your local supplier for the ungodly price of $20. It should last you between 1 and 2 years. 2. Buy Citric Acid Powder from your local health food store. 3. Put 1 TBS of the Citric Acid Powder into a container and add 9 TBS of distilled or purified water to the powder. This is now a 10% solution of the Citric Acid Powder and is the " activator " for the MMS to produce the Chlorine Dioxide. 4. Put the daily dose of MMS drops into a glass and add 5 drops of the citric acid solution for each drop of the MMS in the glass. 5. Wait at least 3 minutes, but no more than ½ hour, for the activation to occur. 6. Add 4 to 8 ounces of apple, or pineapple juice that has no vitamin C added and then chug it down—(or sip it slowly)—your call. Getting started: Start with 2 drops of MMS and follow the instructions above. If you have Lyme disease, start with ½ to 1 drop. Listen up! We are serious; do not start with more than 2 drops on your first dose! Here is why— When there is a large " die-off " of pathogens in the blood, your body will give you indications of how much is too much. You may get a slight headache, diarrhea, or feel some nausea. All of these healing reactions are indicating that something good is happening in your body. But we don't want to go overboard and be uncomfortable or feel a little crappy. So again, start small with 2 drops or less—this is powerful stuff! Please believe hundreds of people (and yours truly) who had to show their testosterone and start with 15 drops right out of the chute— (Not a good idea) • Each day thereafter add 1 more drop and see if you sense any of the suggested reactions. If so, hold at that level or even back down a drop for a few days and then start the upward progression again. Your body will tell you if you are going too fast. It may take a couple of weeks to work up to the 15 drops. Big Deal. You are in the process of fixing a very long term health issue and it may take a little time. Once you are able to take 15 drops a day for 30 days with no reaction, you can back off to a maintenance dose of 6 drops a day of MMS for maintenance to keep your body clear of the pathogens we acquire daily from our food, water and air. Oh, and by the way, the inventor, Jim Humble, is convinced this product alone will add 20 years to your life span. Currently he is 72 and feisty as hell. Rules of Thumb: • Do not take with any vitamin C supplements or juices with " added " ascorbic acid. It will negate, nullify and make the MMS ineffective. ellies apple juice from the health food store is ideal as it has no added vitamin C. • Take the MMS as far away (time wise) from other medications as possible. • Take your MMS about 1 hour after dinner or before you go to bed. (Lots of healing occurs when you are asleep) • If you have acute inflammation or are extremely sick anyway and don't care about the possible side effects of overloading on the MMS, start with a bigger dose (follow your intuition) and you should see significantly faster results although you may pay a small price for the jump start in the way of headache, diarrhea or nausea. • Depending on the seriousness of your condition and if your body can handle it, you may want tot take 10 drops of MMS 3 times a day. • Children should take proportionally less because of their weight. • In an emergency situation, some people take a dose every hour until the issue subsides. • MMS does pass the blood brain barrier and many can feel it working in their brain. • You can use water instead of the suggested juices above, but in 4 or 5 days the odor is a bit like bleach and is a little tough to take. So most people prefer juice. (Without vitamin C—No Orange juice or grapefruit juice!) • One other side effect that occasionally occurs is extremely fragrant stools—so just be aware. We are dealing with a lot of dead organisms and the smell of death can be unpleasant. • A truly healthy person can take 15 drops the first day and show no side effects. This is extremely rare, however, and we do not recommend trying this! • Brush your teeth with this stuff! 3-4 drops of MMS, add the Citric acid solution and ¼ glass of water. Can get rid of gum disease and solidify the teeth in the gums. If you have and questions, e-mail Jim Humble at http://www.miraclemineral.org. You may also order his book and learn of 3 sources to purchase the MMS here in the U.S. and Canada. Home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Not Andy, but there is a product by American Biologics, called Dioxychlor D3, which I read about a long while back, wondering if it is similiar or the same thing. Appears that chlorine Dioxide's primary purpose is to disinfect water, interesting. [ ] Question for Andy: Is this plausible? Mineral Supplement/Salt Hello, There is a lot of talk on the Lyme/autism list about this mineral supplement. I am hoping Andy can comment on the plausibility of this very simple substance/hypothesis... It seems like someone who understands chemistry and the body might be able to comment... Thanks in advance, Ashi This Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS for short) was discovered in 2000 by Jim Humble. At the time, he was using activated Oxygen water, which have been around for 80 years and consists of Sodium Chlorite in distilled water to cure a large percentage of Malaria victims in Africa and South America, as well as eliminating parasites and numerous other weird diseases you often hear about from third world countries. Jim was not satisfied with partial success and his research led him to discover that if you mix a citric acid solution (or lemon juice, or vinegar) with the Sodium Chlorite, and wait 3 minutes to activate, it would produce Chlorine Dioxide, perhaps the worlds best pathogen killer of all time. He had 100% cure rate of over 75,000 malaria patients and 388 out of 390 documented aids patients. It was achieved by using the MMS to create Chlorine Dioxide. Additionally, countless Aids, Hepatitis A, B and C cases were cured.-Not just improved, cured! Why haven't I heard about this? (You ask) Because a simple inexpensive cure is suppressed by the pharmaceutical companies, and the FDA here in the U.S., especially if it is easy to obtain, is dirt cheap and can be made in your kitchen. In other words, there is no money in it since it is a fairly quick and cheap cure, not a drug you must buy forever! As most of you know, Cancer, Diabetes, ulcers, Lyme disease, pain of all types and even arthritis is said to be caused by microbes. What you may not know is thatmicrobes are now thought to be " pleomorphic " . (Please remember this term-there will be a quiz later.) Pleomorphic means that a benign (that means harmless) microbe can mutate into bacteria, viral forms. fungus and then back to a virus or that the same microbe can take on different morphologies; for instance the most common Lyme microbe, Borrelia burgdorferi can exist balled up in a capsule or cyst form or can exist in a cell wall-deficient form know as the L-form as well as in two other forms. (Forgive me-I am getting way too technical here) In other words, microbial form is environmentally dependant. These buggers are smart and it is the reason why antibiotics (which are only good for killing certain bacteria) are often totally ineffective- - especially when Dr's are trying to kill a virus with an antibiotic. Fortunately for each of us individually and for mankind in general, Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus, bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead-sayonara. And guess what, a two year supply is about $20. Is it safe? Yes. Extremely safe. It is not the same as Chlorine added to the city water supply to sterilize the water. That Chlorine will form all types of " Chlorides " which are often carcinogenic and have shown to cause arthrosclerosis. (A big word that means artery problems). Inside the body, chlorine dioxide breaks down into 2 oxygen atoms and a minute amount of table salt , when it is finished killing the bad guys. Then it is excreted from the body within a few hours. Now for the details on how you can clear your body of viruses, mold, unfriendly bacteria and parasites so you can feel better and eliminate many health issues. Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system. (It doesn't get much better than that) The goal is to work your way up to approximately 15 drops of MMS a day without any adverse effects. (We will talk about those a bit later) Here is exactly what you do. 1. Buy a bottle of MMS from your local supplier for the ungodly price of $20. It should last you between 1 and 2 years. 2. Buy Citric Acid Powder from your local health food store. 3. Put 1 TBS of the Citric Acid Powder into a container and add 9 TBS of distilled or purified water to the powder. This is now a 10% solution of the Citric Acid Powder and is the " activator " for the MMS to produce the Chlorine Dioxide. 4. Put the daily dose of MMS drops into a glass and add 5 drops of the citric acid solution for each drop of the MMS in the glass. 5. Wait at least 3 minutes, but no more than ½ hour, for the activation to occur. 6. Add 4 to 8 ounces of apple, or pineapple juice that has no vitamin C added and then chug it down-(or sip it slowly)-your call. Getting started: Start with 2 drops of MMS and follow the instructions above. If you have Lyme disease, start with ½ to 1 drop. Listen up! We are serious; do not start with more than 2 drops on your first dose! Here is why- When there is a large " die-off " of pathogens in the blood, your body will give you indications of how much is too much. You may get a slight headache, diarrhea, or feel some nausea. All of these healing reactions are indicating that something good is happening in your body. But we don't want to go overboard and be uncomfortable or feel a little crappy. So again, start small with 2 drops or less-this is powerful stuff! Please believe hundreds of people (and yours truly) who had to show their testosterone and start with 15 drops right out of the chute- (Not a good idea) . Each day thereafter add 1 more drop and see if you sense any of the suggested reactions. If so, hold at that level or even back down a drop for a few days and then start the upward progression again. Your body will tell you if you are going too fast. It may take a couple of weeks to work up to the 15 drops. Big Deal. You are in the process of fixing a very long term health issue and it may take a little time. Once you are able to take 15 drops a day for 30 days with no reaction, you can back off to a maintenance dose of 6 drops a day of MMS for maintenance to keep your body clear of the pathogens we acquire daily from our food, water and air. Oh, and by the way, the inventor, Jim Humble, is convinced this product alone will add 20 years to your life span. Currently he is 72 and feisty as hell. Rules of Thumb: . Do not take with any vitamin C supplements or juices with " added " ascorbic acid. It will negate, nullify and make the MMS ineffective. ellies apple juice from the health food store is ideal as it has no added vitamin C. . Take the MMS as far away (time wise) from other medications as possible. . Take your MMS about 1 hour after dinner or before you go to bed. (Lots of healing occurs when you are asleep) . If you have acute inflammation or are extremely sick anyway and don't care about the possible side effects of overloading on the MMS, start with a bigger dose (follow your intuition) and you should see significantly faster results although you may pay a small price for the jump start in the way of headache, diarrhea or nausea. . Depending on the seriousness of your condition and if your body can handle it, you may want tot take 10 drops of MMS 3 times a day. . Children should take proportionally less because of their weight. . In an emergency situation, some people take a dose every hour until the issue subsides. . MMS does pass the blood brain barrier and many can feel it working in their brain. . You can use water instead of the suggested juices above, but in 4 or 5 days the odor is a bit like bleach and is a little tough to take. So most people prefer juice. (Without vitamin C-No Orange juice or grapefruit juice!) . One other side effect that occasionally occurs is extremely fragrant stools-so just be aware. We are dealing with a lot of dead organisms and the smell of death can be unpleasant. . A truly healthy person can take 15 drops the first day and show no side effects. This is extremely rare, however, and we do not recommend trying this! . Brush your teeth with this stuff! 3-4 drops of MMS, add the Citric acid solution and ¼ glass of water. Can get rid of gum disease and solidify the teeth in the gums. If you have and questions, e-mail Jim Humble at http://www.miraclemineral.org. You may also order his book and learn of 3 sources to purchase the MMS here in the U.S. and Canada. Home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 This recipe makes chlorine gas, too. Kills everything. Worked really well on enemy soldiers in WW I - so well it is banned by the Geneva Conventions. Maybe not the best thing to try on your kids. I don't believe the cure rates, they're too high to be real. With those numbers even if this was the 'magic bullet,' something random would have happened to some of the people so that one could not legitimately be sure they were cured. You're basically just giving yourself a strong oxidizing agent. Not clear to me why that would either help or be particuarly selective. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I wonder how they reconcile these two claims below?? That must be some extremely charming and friendly bacteria to avoid such a ruthless killer. Or else they're really invested in making this substance look *perfect*. > Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus, > bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead—sayonara. > > Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no > known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system. > (It doesn't get much better than that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 > > > I wonder how they reconcile these two claims below?? You can't. One of them is necessarily incorrect. I stand by my correct claim that ClO2 is a nonselective biocide and believe the first one below to be accurate. > That must be some extremely charming and friendly bacteria to avoid > such a ruthless killer. Or else they're really invested in making > this substance look *perfect*. > > > > > Chlorine Dioxide does not care what the pathogen is be it a virus, > > bacteria, fungus, mold or parasite--it will kill it---dead—sayonara. > > > > > > Please Note; Chlorine Dioxide has no > > known adverse effect on the good bacteria in the digestive system. > > (It doesn't get much better than that) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Just my two cents. I am in several groups and in reversingautism suggests beginning with only 1/4 drop and staying at that level for some time if used with children. Please don't give too much to anyone - if tried, take this very slowly.... Just make the solution with one drop sodium chlorite (mms)/ 5 drops of lemon juice or citric acid solution; then discard 75% of the mixture (or share) This will provide 1/4 drop. There are some videos on youtube.com The MMS is (stabilized oxygen) sodium chlorite (yes, chlorite) and when citric acid/lemon juice or vinegar is added becomes Chlorine Dioxide. I've just ordered a bottle from ebay for $10.88 w/ free shipping and will give it a try on me and my husband first. Also, our son is 20, so not worried about giving to a young child. We are going to begin (adults) with only 1 drop to try it out and will take this very slowly. Lin > > > I am curious about this too - for an OT reason (altho maybe it will > apply to people here as well). I keep chickens, and they are very > prone to respiratory illnesses; someone told me that " Halox " , some > stabilised form of chlorine dioxide, could be aerosolised by the birds > and inhaled to keep resp. illnesses at bay and/or help to cure them. > > I wasn't sure about safety, so I never tried it. Of course, now I am > wondering if it *is* safe and worth testing for efficacy. And if it > is safe for chickens to inhale, maybe it is safe for people to inhale > - which would really be something for when people get > colds/respiratory infections. > > I am not so keen on them saying it breaks down to O2 and table salt. > Sodium chloride doesn't have any chlorine. Where does the chlorine go? > > > it would produce Chlorine Dioxide, perhaps the worlds best pathogen > > killer of all time. He had 100% cure rate of over 75,000 malaria > > patients and 388 out of 390 documented aids patients. It was achieved > > by using the MMS to create Chlorine Dioxide. Additionally, countless > > Aids, Hepatitis A, B and C cases were cured.—Not just improved, cured! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 A group of products sold by nzymes.com has been very effetive in treating chronic yeast in my dog. Their Oxy-drops is 5% Sodium Chlorite. Not realy a miracle, just a general killer of parasitic fungus. Sodium chlorite is similar to bleach and is used in mouthwash, eye drops and as a food perservative. I don't have any experience with MMS. Note of caution: I saw one abstract indicating that sodium chlorite breaks down glutithione. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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