Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I saw an old interview with him where he said his wife used to be a special ed teacher and that someone they know has a child affected by autism, so he has a personal connection Kerrie In a message dated 2/29/2008 7:46:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cindy@... writes: I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 What if we (meaning everyone interested in the truth coming out) forced the issue of the Simpsonwood meeting? As I understand it, this was not only secret, but illegal as the drug company people were there, therefore private industry was represented, but not the public (except by the " governement of the people " ). All three candidates are senators now, and I seriously doubt any of them know about that meeting - yes, the transcripts are out on ACHAMP for anyone to look at - but politicians don't have time to look on the web (just like millions of American don't) or don't know where to look. The drug reps would want to keep them well insulated from the truth, and the Simpsonwood meeting was all executive branch agencies (I think) - no legislative branch involvement at all. So I'd think none of the political candidates would know. What would they do if they were made to know? Preferably by a number of parents at a campaign ralley who won't take no for an ansewer, and have all virtually memorized the transcrips, all the major mercury/other metal-autism links, know studies about neurotoxicity of metals and other things, articles on the immunological havoc vaccine overstimulation can wreak (if there are any). People who can hold there own as well as the politicians, and won't let them talk out of both sides of their mouths as they usually do - if it is possible to not let them do this. My cousin did this with his conservative, Republican boss once about some or other policies - he shouted down ALL his bosses arguments with his own, knew ALL his facts, had 4 or 5 good points for each of his bosses arguments, and ended up " converting " a lage number of his fellow employees to his side of the argument by the end. This is the kind of person I'm thinking of. If the candiates were made plainly aware of such illegality that is ON RECORD in transcipt (WHY they put the had a transcript of a secret illegal meeting I don't underand - you don't make incrimating tapes of illegal activity.. Watergate taught crooks that!), how would they respond? Prefereably with national news and independent news camera rolling - the national news would try to bury it, the independent new wouldn't) If Barak (and everyone else) is for " change " , why not confront the with the need for REAL change - a few people in jail for a start, and then a congressional order, or executive order if that isn't done in 60 days of the next Congress starting to: 1) to get rid of all mercury and other metals in all vaccines, and destroy all current stocks of mercury (and possibly other metal) containing vaccines in accordance with hazardous waster procedures. 2) Use single-dose units for all vaccines - or figure out to use multi-dose units sterilly without any preservative (airlock on a vaccine container perhaps? Would cost more than single-unit doses 3) Do *serious* reseach into biomedical treatments, including but not limited to chelation therapy, HBOT, the Mag/B12 protocol, K2- protocol, CF/GF/SF diets, the role of oxalates in autism, fibromyalgia, and possibly other conditions, the role of hypothyroidism and subclincal adrenal insufficienty in autism AND the rest of the general public (both are enormous problems outside of autism circles too), and the probably causes of the drastic rise in autism in the US - vaccines, metals, flame retardants, organo- chloride chemicals, endocrine and neurological disrupting chemcials, over-stimulation of immature immune systems, etc. 4) Begin systematic research comparing autism rates between states with differnet vaccinations schdules, and/or between countries that have different scdules. Example is US vs Sweden from what I've read. Sweden does not use the 'P' portion of the DPT shot (possibly among other vaccines it ommits). Swedens's autism rate (as of I think 2000 when Kennedy wrote his article) was about 0.. Why? 5) If vaccinations is to be continued, mandate post-vaccine antibody testing to determine it's effectiveness. If it is not effective at a particular age, scrap it. Research other ways to augment the immune system naturally (zinc, selenium, B6, magnesium, etc). 6) Do comprehensive studies on how effective vaccines really are. They keep saying that deaths from vaccines, while tragic, are nothing compared to that from diseases in the past that " we are now protected from " . The key here is *in the past*. Santitation is now better, hygenic procedure is now better, the air is (somewhat) cleaner, adn infection control measures are now in place. It is impossible and irresponsible to compare two drasitcally different time-periods. I have read that most diseaess, including polio, were in decline even before vaccines were introduced against them. I also know that in Africa when polio vaccines were prohibited by certain governments, polio epidemics happend (although the same caveat of environment applies to that comparison). I *don't* know if vaccines really do protect us, or *how much*. 7) One large question after all this is done will be this - how much do we want immunity against disease? I believe that if this immunity is desired, it will require immunological research to find a completely differnent way to induce the immune system to create antibodies against such pathogens we don't want. Preferably, a method that induced life-long immunity, with no need for booster treatments. Preferbaly also an induction method that is more " natural " than the current method of dumping an enormous load of pre- prepaired antigens into the bloodstream, bypassing the first line immune system defenses (the skin, mucous membranes, and broncial tree, all of which probably have specialized immune cells specically for detecting pathogens quickly). The current " vaccine " methodalso bypassing key steps in the production of antibodies naturally - the one I know about (not being an immunologist) is the proessing of pathogen and selection of epitopes for antibody production. I do not believe it is know whether this process ONLY results in epitope selection (which is what we do in making some vaccines), or whether this process activates other parts of the immune system. It is hurbis to thing that we know enough about these processes to avoid negative reactions (we can't even make a flu shot that make immunity for more than a few months, even if it IS the right virus). This is my guess, but induction of immunity without the current vaccine paradigm may include genetic modication of viruses/bacteria (make them able do everything but not cause disease), and then let the immune system work naturally - however this will probably fail with viruses that " hide " in the system like herpes, EBV, and HIV (ones I know about). It may also necessitate stimulation of immune cells directly, as is currently in trials to re-create beta-cell tolerance in Type 1 diabets (via CD3 acitvation via monoclonal antibody). There must be a discussion of what disease might truely merit vaccination (I personally would say life-altering diseases such as polio or menegitus), and which are simply " nuisensce " disease (chicken pox). 8) Most or all of the current vaccine mandates must end, such as MMR for graduate school I think. A side note - this could create an interesting situation - if a person goes to graduate school, is required to get the MMR vaccine and does so, then regresses, and then recovers by chelation and other biomed means. This hypothetical recovered autistic, being very high functioning BEFORE aquireing autism, and retaining a high level (if not all) of that functionally after recovering, would be an ideal spokesperson for in the autism movement. I don't know if this has ever happened though. 9) Cases of recovery must be documented - including the one case I read about of an early autism regression that was recognized by the parents as mercury poisoning, treated very early with chelation therapy, and led to almost complete recovery. This was very early in the autism epidemic. I don't remembere where on the internet I read it - I'm sure someone else knows this story and the source. 10) Find the money to do all of this.. As stated, this would take a LOT of money, and politicians never want to spend money (unless they can pass it on to the next generation, or at least to the next office-holder it seems). But also ask the politicians this question, raised in the recent " Open Letter to the AAP " - when the current generation of autistics become " adults " (over 18), and start drawing on disability, which is a greater fiscal burden on this country - that ongoing, (in some cases institutional) care, or what I just outlined? A last irony I'd like to note. In Kennedy's article " Deadly Immunity " , Kenndy quotes (from the transcript I assume) Dr. Brent as saying " We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits, " and states that " the government has proved to be far more adept at handling the damage " .. Yet Rep. Dan Burton's committee concluded " This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed.. " We now have (and will have, when all the information finally comes out into the bright sunshine for everyone to see) a BIGGER epidemic that we did when the Simpsonwood meeting was help. The drug companies have a much bigger problem - regaining the public's trust in vaccines (at the least of their products). The drug industry may be greedy, but they are not stupid. Secrets cannot be kept secret forever. Why did they not see this train wreak coming? Jim " The naive one - I'd either make a great politician, or not last a second at it.. " On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:59 PM, anacat_11 wrote: > The media will try to ignore it because the media chiefs are all > Republicans (many individual reporters are libs) and the issue will > threaten to fracture the party completely. But Limbaugh may rave about > it until bigger media is forced to comment. Obama is unlikely to bring > it up in debates unless McCain forces the issue, neither is he likely > to use it as a point of attack. Hillary might if she were the nominee. > The reason I think Obama won't touch it is because he may have the > same > bent, but the reporting on the remarks would be different if they came > from him first or at all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 The guy who wrote this doesn't know what he's writing about. This guy does: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/senator-mccain-watch- out_b_89318.html Senator McCain: Watch Out For Incoming! By Kirby You, Senator, like it or not, are now a card-carrying member of the " Mercury Militia. " You are a tin-foil hatter, a " denialist dead- ender, " and an " anti-science " nut job grasping at emotional, litigious straws. > > McCain Enters the Autism Wars > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM > > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., > declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a mercury- > based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is > responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a > position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment. > > http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Who is the mom?????? Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T McCain Enters the Autism Wars http://blogs. <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html> abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html McCain Enters the Autism Wars February 29, 2008 7:11 PM At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment. McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by thimerosal. " We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this question, and are hoping that you can help us out there, " the woman said. McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that " It's indisputable that (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines. " McCain said there's " divided scientific opinion " on the matter, with " many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying that's not the cause of it. " The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it sound, however. Overwhelmingly the " credible scientists, " at least as the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side against McCain's view. Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to a very real health crisis. The Centers for Disease Control says " There is no convincing scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. " The American Academy of Pediatrics says " No scientific data link thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric neurologic disorder, including autism. " The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and said that it " found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions. " The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee concluded " that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism. " And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data published last month indicated that there was " an increase in autism in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines. " Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm? (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was " because any potential risk is of concern. " ) In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure about thimerosal as the medical establishment is. Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years. This could be quite controversial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Wow! I was a little miffed when McCain pre-empted the scheduled Larry King autism program on February 14th. Now,...I am amazed by the irony of it all,... autismlink <cindy@...> wrote: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html McCain Enters the Autism WarsFebruary 29, 2008 7:11 PMAt a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, amercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- aposition in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy withautism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of FederalClaims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issueda judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimedregressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused bythimerosal."We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to thisquestion, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the woman said.McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that(autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what'scausing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence thatindicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with"many on the other side that are credible scientists that are sayingthat's not the cause of it."The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made itsound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least asthe government and the medical establishment so ordain them, sideagainst McCain's view.Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful peoplelending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents fromgetting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead toa very real health crisis.The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincingscientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal invaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at theinjection site."The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data linkthimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatricneurologic disorder, including autism."The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- theyear thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- andsaid that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal asa vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committeeconcluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejectionof a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines andautism."And a study of California Department of Developmental Services datapublished last month indicated that there was "an increase in autismin California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including somemedical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute whatthe established medical community says about this wrenching issue. Oneof the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have beenremoved from the vaccines if there was no real harm?(The answer according to the Public Health Service, the AmericanAcademy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because anypotential risk is of concern.")In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptiveRepublican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sureabout thimerosal as the medical establishment is.Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines-- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almostevery childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.This could be quite controversial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html > > McCain Enters the Autism Wars > > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM > > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., > declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a > mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, > is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a > position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment. > > McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with > autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal > Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued > a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed > regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by > thimerosal. > > " We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this > question, and are hoping that you can help us out there, " the woman said. > > McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that " It's indisputable that > (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's > causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that > indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines. " > > McCain said there's " divided scientific opinion " on the matter, with > " many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying > that's not the cause of it. " > > The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it > sound, however. Overwhelmingly the " credible scientists, " at least as > the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side > against McCain's view. > > Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people > lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from > getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to > a very real health crisis. > > The Centers for Disease Control says " There is no convincing > scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in > vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the > injection site. " > > The American Academy of Pediatrics says " No scientific data link > thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric > neurologic disorder, including autism. " > > The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the > year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and > said that it " found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as > a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions. " > > The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee > concluded " that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection > of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and > autism. " > > And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data > published last month indicated that there was " an increase in autism > in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines. " > > Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some > medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what > the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One > of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been > removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm? > > (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American > Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was " because any > potential risk is of concern. " ) > > In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive > Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure > about thimerosal as the medical establishment is. > > Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines > -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost > every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years. > > This could be quite controversial. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 > > http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html > > McCain Enters the Autism Wars WE SURE COULD USE A NAVY MAN 'BOUT NOW! The below letter was delivered to Senator McCain by Lin Wessels during the ACHAMP's meeting with him just prior to Thanksgiving. Thanks Lin and ACHAMP!! October 23, 2007 The Honorable McCain 241 Senate Office Building United States Senate Washington, DC 20510 Dear Senator: I have been informed that you are concerned about the autism epidemic (now 1 in 150 children) and have promised to help find the cause. The parents of children with autism have been told this time and time before by other office seeking politicians, including the sitting President, only to discover nothing of real substance happens once they've taken the oath of office. If this is truly the case and not election year rhetoric, it would be very welcomed by so many. The causation of autism is indeed a complex and emotionally charged issue. If you ask scientists what causes autism, the majority will say " genes " . To date, millions and millions of dollars have been spent looking for the ever elusive autism gene but it has yet to be found. Other scientists will say it's impossible to have a genetic epidemic (1 in 10,000 during the 1980s) and that doctors have just gotten " better at diagnosing " . If this was indeed true, where then are all the hordes of adults being diagnosed with autism? And still other scientists, a small minority thank God, state the statistics are wrong and there is " no epidemic " at all. Now if you ask a parent what they believed caused their child's autism, the overwhelming majority will simply say " vaccines " . Remember back when we were kids and our Mothers would paint our skinned knees all red with Merthiolate antiseptic? I bet you haven't seen a bottle of Merthiolate in a very long time. Why? It's because the FDA took it off the market years ago as it contained neurotoxic mercury which was poisoning children. Unfortunately though, the FDA was asleep at the switch and forgot to take this dangerous compound out of vaccines. Why was this toxic antiseptic used in vaccines? This is from the Bundaberg Australia Daily News and Mail dated Monday, January 30th, 1928: Immunisation Inoculation Proves Fatal Twelve local children die after treatment on Friday THE CITY IN A NIGHT BECOMES ONE OF MOURNING ONE FAMILY'S LOSS IN THREE; ALL THE PARENTS HAD. SPORT SUSPENDED IN SYMPATHY; PUBLIC FUNERALS TO-DAY. It is an old but true saying " in the midst of life we are in death " . Today Bundaberg mourns the loss of twelve fine little children, whose bright young lives were nipped in the bud, as the result of some maleficent quality that developed or was hidden in the immunising serum injected into their arms on Friday for the purpose of assuring their safety against the dreaded diphtheria that is so threatening at this time. The victims are:- , 5 1/2 years Marsden Coates, 7 years , 4 years Follitt, 2 ½ years Mervyn , 23 months Sheppard, 5 years Baker, 5 years Sheppard, 2 ½ years Baker, 3 years Myrtle Brennan, 3 ½ years Baker, 6 years Joan , 5 ½ years HEARTRENDING SCENES At the hospital there were heartrending scenes. By 11 o'clock there were twenty children in the institution. Doctors and nurses worked perseveringly in their efforts to save the valuable lives, but in vain. the serum had done its deadly work, and the children writhed in agony. The nurses never relaxed,. Oxygen was freely used to keep the little hearts gong, but one by one they ceased to beat. At mid-day four of the children had died, and as the afternoon wore on, there were more deaths, with more to follow in the evening. TRYING FOR THE STAFF It was a never-to-be forgotten day for the hospital staff, what with children dying, others writhing in the throes of death and the sobbing of heartbroken parents, sisters and brothers, was a scene, only those who went through it can describe. There were many touching incidents in the ward. Mr & Mrs Sheppard had two of there children die simultaneously. Despite this heavy blow they bore up with true fortitude in hopes of their other two boys pulling through, and at their bedsides a grief stricken father and mother maintain a silent vigil. THREE BOYS ALL GONE Mr & Mrs Thos , East Bundaberg, lost their whole family-three lovely little boys - , Willie and Mervyn-described by neighbours as a happy trio, the two elder boys being greatly attached to baby Merv. Mr and Mrs robinson are natives of England. They came out to Bundaberg six years ago, and their family, now wiped out, were natives of this city. " We did what we thought was in the best interests of the children themselves and for the city, when we decided to have them immunised against diphtheria, " said Mr and Mrs . " Immunisation head been a success in other cities, and we had every confidence in it. But apparently something has gone wrong, and our little darlings count among the victims. Two days ago the home was full of life, and look at it now. " The Australians were so outraged by this tragedy that immunizations were suspended and a Royal Commission was convened to investigate. Their investigation determined that bacteria had contaminated the sterile vaccine serum and produced a deadly toxin (similar to botulism poisoning). It was recommended that either vaccines be produced in single dose vials (which eliminated the possibility of bacterial contamination) or that an antiseptic be added to the multi- dose vials to maintain sterility. Shortly after the Bundaberg Serum Tragedy, the vaccine manufacturers added Merthiolate antiseptic to the multi-dose vials and changed the name to Thimerosal. This dangerous mercurial compound has been " grandfathered in " vaccines ever since without ever being adequately tested for safety. If you look at when the autism epidemic began, you will see its right around 1990. This so happens to be the same time that six immunizations were added onto the children's immunization schedule which nearly tripled the amount of mercury children received from Thimerosal. There are many reputable people who are convinced this caused the autism epidemic including the Honorable Dan Burton (R-IN), who I urge you to personally contact. I too am convinced that Thimerosal causes autism. My son, Lenny, was a normal developing little boy who began displaying symptoms of autism just days after his twelve month immunizations. By the time of the formal diagnosis at age 2, he had the hallmarks of autism which included losing all speech, spending hours doing self stimulatory behaviors (spinning in circles), acting deaf, not making eye contact, having multiple daily meltdowns, not sleeping more than 2 or three hours at a time, not wanting to be held, etc. His mother and I were told that there was no known cause or cure and that our precious son would require lifelong support. Fortunately, the so called autism experts were wrong. Today, Lenny is very much a normal boy. He has no symptoms of autism, attends regular third grade (doing very well), has lots of friends, and has earned his sixth belt (third Gup – high blue) in Tae Kwon Do. How did we recover him? In late 2000, I read a just released paper called " Autism – A Unique Form of Mercury Poisoning " which compared the symptoms of autism to those of mercury poisoning. Looking back at his shot record, I was able to determine that my son received over 237.5mcg of mercury. We quickly sought out the help of a pediatrician requesting chelation therapy for heavy metal poisoning. Our son was prescribed intermittent doses of an oral medication called DMSA, which by the way is FDA approved for use in children for lead poisoning but it also chelates mercury. Within a matter of weeks of giving the DMSA, Lenny's symptoms noticeably improved and he began talking again. Within one year of the treatments, a new evaluation revealed that other than speech articulation (difficult to understand him sometimes) he had no developmental delay. We were absolutely amazed! After attending speech classes at our local elementary school, he was age appropriate for speech and began kindergarten right on time. Fortunately, our story of recovery is not unique. We've heard from many other parents who say their child improved or even recovered when they addressed the mercury issue (generationrescue.org). Many parents even have laboratory tests proving their children are mercury toxic. Unfortunately, the CDC and some powerful organizations (including the American Academy of Pediatrics who receives millions in pharmaceutical donations) dismiss us as kooks or make statements that our children never really had autism in the first place. Senator McCain, I am not a kook and my son really did have autism. I am a retired U.S Navy Senior Chief Hospital Corpsman who proudly served our Country for over thirty years (I even worked in 1973 at Naval Hospital San Diego with many of the returning Vietnam POW Returnees). And my son did have autism as confirmed by two separate evaluations, including one at the Dan Marino Center for Autism at Miami's Children's Hospital. I find two things regarding all of this to be very ironic. One is that the remedy (Thimerosal) for a terrible but limited tragedy years ago has resulted in a nearly unfathomable conflagration affecting millions today. The second irony is that there has been no outrage like occurred in Australia 79 years ago. Why isn't the news media loudly sounding the alarm when day after day our children are leaving us? Why hasn't the Federal Government declared the autism epidemic a National Emergency and taken real action? And why is Thimerosal still being injected into children and pregnant women when they can make vaccines mercury-free? How high must the rate of autism rise before we hold our own " Royal Commission " to find the cause? One in a hundred? One in fifty? One in ten? I've been told that I'm wasting my time writing this. That once the election is over, you'll forget all about your promise. I don't believe this at all. You are a Navy Man just like me. We have been taught to always take care of our own. America's children sure could use a Navy Man `bout now. Bravo Zulu Senator! Respectfully yours, HMCS(SW) A Hoover USN RET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) Aasaautismlink <cindy@...> wrote: I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html> > McCain Enters the Autism Wars> > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM> > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,> declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, a> mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,> is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.> > McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with> autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal> Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued> a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed> regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by> thimerosal.> > "We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this> question, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the womansaid.> > McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that> (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's> causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that> indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."> > McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with> "many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying> that's not the cause of it."> > The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it> sound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least as> the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side> against McCain's view.> > Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people> lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from> getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to> a very real health crisis.> > The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincing> scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in> vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the> injection site."> > The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data link> thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric> neurologic disorder, including autism."> > The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the> year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and> said that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as> a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."> > The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee> concluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection> of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and> autism."> > And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data> published last month indicated that there was "an increase in autism> in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."> > Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some> medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what> the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One> of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been> removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?> > (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American> Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because any> potential risk is of concern.")> > In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive> Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure> about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.> > Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines> -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost> every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.> > This could be quite controversial.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 McCain has been well educated on our issues by an A-CHAMP Mom named Lin Wessels. Lin was able to have a forum with many of the presidential candidates while they were campaigning in Iowa. McCain was the most receptive and she and others consequently were invited to meet with him in Washington. He has been provided a wealth of information from these encounters. Thank you LIN! - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of ratlenhum@... Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:09 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: McCain Enters the Autism Wars I saw an old interview with him where he said his wife used to be a special ed teacher and that someone they know has a child affected by autism, so he has a personal connection Kerrie In a message dated 2/29/2008 7:46:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cindyautismlink writes: I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Lin Wessels and the folks at A-CHAMP have a lot to do with educating him on the issue. He was really touched by her son, Sam. He has also been advocating and speaking out for vaccine injured troops and military. He has been familiar with that issue for a while. > > > I saw an old interview with him where he said his wife used to be a special > ed teacher and that someone they know has a child affected by autism, so he > has a personal connection > > Kerrie > > > > In a message dated 2/29/2008 7:46:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > cindy@... writes: > > I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! > > > > > > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 > > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) > > Aasa I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am honored to call her friend. Thanks for the kudo! Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 have you all not seen this?????????????????????????????????? http://www.a-champ.org/McCain_Lieberman_letter.html > > > > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some > serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) > > > > Aasa > > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am > honored to call her friend. > > Thanks for the kudo! > > Charlie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 And hopefully his staffer read the copy of EOH I gave him, also my son's book! Barb Re: McCain Enters the Autism Wars have you all not seen this??????????????????????????????????http://www.a-champ.org/McCain_Lieberman_letter.html--- In EOHarm , "Charlie Hoover" <.Hoover@...>wrote:>> > >> > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some > serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)> > > > Aasa> > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am > honored to call her friend.> > Thanks for the kudo!> > Charlie> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I wonder what the media will have to say about his comments. Will they attack him or will they ignore it for fear that attacking him will bring too much attention to the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 The media will try to ignore it because the media chiefs are all Republicans (many individual reporters are libs) and the issue will threaten to fracture the party completely. But Limbaugh may rave about it until bigger media is forced to comment. Obama is unlikely to bring it up in debates unless McCain forces the issue, neither is he likely to use it as a point of attack. Hillary might if she were the nominee. The reason I think Obama won't touch it is because he may have the same bent, but the reporting on the remarks would be different if they came from him first or at all. > > I wonder what the media will have to say about his comments. Will > they attack him or will they ignore it for fear that attacking him > will bring too much attention to the issue? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 They'll poo-poo them as a right-wing conspiracy to ruin the vaccine program. Now if we can get Obama to say it, then it will be deemed fact from Authority Most High Rock Star. <g> > > I wonder what the media will have to say about his comments. Will > they attack him or will they ignore it for fear that attacking him > will bring too much attention to the issue? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I apologize if this has been hashed out before, or if this is naive - I'm new to EOHarm (and the " Autism Truth " movement as a whole). What if we (meaning everyone interested in the truth coming out) forced the issue of the Simpsonwood meeting? As I understand it, this was not only secret, but illegal as the drug company people were there, therefore private industry was represented, but not the public (except by the " governement of the people " ). All three candidates are senators now, and I seriously doubt any of them know about that meeting - yes, the transcripts are out on ACHAMP for anyone to look at - but politicians don't have time to look on the web (just like millions of American don't) or don't know where to look. The drug reps would want to keep them well insulated from the truth, and the Simpsonwood meeting was all executive branch agencies (I think) - no legislative branch involvement at all. So I'd think none of the political candidates would know. What would they do if they were made to know? Preferably by a number of parents at a campaign ralley who won't take no for an ansewer, and have all virtually memorized the transcrips, all the major mercury/other metal-autism links, know studies about neurotoxicity of metals and other things, articles on the immunological havoc vaccine overstimulation can wreak (if there are any). People who can hold there own as well as the politicians, and won't let them talk out of both sides of their mouths as they usually do - if it is possible to not let them do this. My cousin did this with his conservative, Republican boss once about some or other policies - he shouted down ALL his bosses arguments with his own, knew ALL his facts, had 4 or 5 good points for each of his bosses arguments, and ended up " converting " a lage number of his fellow employees to his side of the argument by the end. This is the kind of person I'm thinking of. If the candiates were made plainly aware of such illegality that is ON RECORD in transcipt (WHY they put the had a transcript of a secret illegal meeting I don't underand - you don't make incrimating tapes of illegal activity.. Watergate taught crooks that!), how would they respond? Prefereably with national news and independent news camera rolling - the national news would try to bury it, the independent new wouldn't) If Barak (and everyone else) is for " change " , why not confront the with the need for REAL change - a few people in jail for a start, and then a congressional order, or executive order if that isn't done in 60 days of the next Congress starting to: 1) to get rid of all mercury and other metals in all vaccines, and destroy all current stocks of mercury (and possibly other metal) containing vaccines in accordance with hazardous waster procedures. 2) Use single-dose units for all vaccines - or figure out to use multi-dose units sterilly without any preservative (airlock on a vaccine container perhaps? Would cost more than single-unit doses 3) Do *serious* reseach into biomedical treatments, including but not limited to chelation therapy, HBOT, the Mag/B12 protocol, K2- protocol, CF/GF/SF diets, the role of oxalates in autism, fibromyalgia, and possibly other conditions, the role of hypothyroidism and subclincal adrenal insufficienty in autism AND the rest of the general public (both are enormous problems outside of autism circles too), and the probably causes of the drastic rise in autism in the US - vaccines, metals, flame retardants, organo- chloride chemicals, endocrine and neurological disrupting chemcials, over-stimulation of immature immune systems, etc. 4) Begin systematic research comparing autism rates between states with differnet vaccinations schdules, and/or between countries that have different scdules. Example is US vs Sweden from what I've read. Sweden does not use the 'P' portion of the DPT shot (possibly among other vaccines it ommits). Swedens's autism rate (as of I think 2000 when Kennedy wrote his article) was about 0.. Why? 5) If vaccinations is to be continued, mandate post-vaccine antibody testing to determine it's effectiveness. If it is not effective at a particular age, scrap it. Research other ways to augment the immune system naturally (zinc, selenium, B6, magnesium, etc). 6) Do comprehensive studies on how effective vaccines really are. They keep saying that deaths from vaccines, while tragic, are nothing compared to that from diseases in the past that " we are now protected from " . The key here is *in the past*. Santitation is now better, hygenic procedure is now better, the air is (somewhat) cleaner, adn infection control measures are now in place. It is impossible and irresponsible to compare two drasitcally different time-periods. I have read that most diseaess, including polio, were in decline even before vaccines were introduced against them. I also know that in Africa when polio vaccines were prohibited by certain governments, polio epidemics happend (although the same caveat of environment applies to that comparison). I *don't* know if vaccines really do protect us, or *how much*. 7) One large question after all this is done will be this - how much do we want immunity against disease? I believe that if this immunity is desired, it will require immunological research to find a completely differnent way to induce the immune system to create antibodies against such pathogens we don't want. Preferably, a method that induced life-long immunity, with no need for booster treatments. Preferbaly also an induction method that is more " natural " than the current method of dumping an enormous load of pre- prepaired antigens into the bloodstream, bypassing the first line immune system defenses (the skin, mucous membranes, and broncial tree, all of which probably have specialized immune cells specically for detecting pathogens quickly). The current " vaccine " methodalso bypassing key steps in the production of antibodies naturally - the one I know about (not being an immunologist) is the proessing of pathogen and selection of epitopes for antibody production. I do not believe it is know whether this process ONLY results in epitope selection (which is what we do in making some vaccines), or whether this process activates other parts of the immune system. It is hurbis to thing that we know enough about these processes to avoid negative reactions (we can't even make a flu shot that make immunity for more than a few months, even if it IS the right virus). This is my guess, but induction of immunity without the current vaccine paradigm may include genetic modication of viruses/bacteria (make them able do everything but not cause disease), and then let the immune system work naturally - however this will probably fail with viruses that " hide " in the system like herpes, EBV, and HIV (ones I know about). It may also necessitate stimulation of immune cells directly, as is currently in trials to re-create beta-cell tolerance in Type 1 diabets (via CD3 acitvation via monoclonal antibody). There must be a discussion of what disease might truely merit vaccination (I personally would say life-altering diseases such as polio or menegitus), and which are simply " nuisensce " disease (chicken pox). 8) Most or all of the current vaccine mandates must end, such as MMR for graduate school I think. A side note - this could create an interesting situation - if a person goes to graduate school, is required to get the MMR vaccine and does so, then regresses, and then recovers by chelation and other biomed means. This hypothetical recovered autistic, being very high functioning BEFORE aquireing autism, and retaining a high level (if not all) of that functionally after recovering, would be an ideal spokesperson for in the autism movement. I don't know if this has ever happened though. 9) Cases of recovery must be documented - including the one case I read about of an early autism regression that was recognized by the parents as mercury poisoning, treated very early with chelation therapy, and led to almost complete recovery. This was very early in the autism epidemic. I don't remembere where on the internet I read it - I'm sure someone else knows this story and the source. 10) Find the money to do all of this.. As stated, this would take a LOT of money, and politicians never want to spend money (unless they can pass it on to the next generation, or at least to the next office-holder it seems). But also ask the politicians this question, raised in the recent " Open Letter to the AAP " - when the current generation of autistics become " adults " (over 18), and start drawing on disability, which is a greater fiscal burden on this country - that ongoing, (in some cases institutional) care, or what I just outlined? A last irony I'd like to note. In Kennedy's article " Deadly Immunity " , Kenndy quotes (from the transcript I assume) Dr. Brent as saying " We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits, " and states that " the government has proved to be far more adept at handling the damage " .. Yet Rep. Dan Burton's committee concluded " This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed.. " We now have (and will have, when all the information finally comes out into the bright sunshine for everyone to see) a BIGGER epidemic that we did when the Simpsonwood meeting was help. The drug companies have a much bigger problem - regaining the public's trust in vaccines (at the least of their products). The drug industry may be greedy, but they are not stupid. Secrets cannot be kept secret forever. Why did they not see this train wreak coming? Jim " The naive one - I'd either make a great politician, or not last a second at it.. " On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:59 PM, anacat_11 wrote: > The media will try to ignore it because the media chiefs are all > Republicans (many individual reporters are libs) and the issue will > threaten to fracture the party completely. But Limbaugh may rave about > it until bigger media is forced to comment. Obama is unlikely to bring > it up in debates unless McCain forces the issue, neither is he likely > to use it as a point of attack. Hillary might if she were the nominee. > The reason I think Obama won't touch it is because he may have the > same > bent, but the reporting on the remarks would be different if they came > from him first or at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Rats. Although I'm so happy a candidate is making some strong statements, I wish he hadn't targeted just the mercury... but instead our vaccine schedule in general as the culprit. Still, I'm so happy! Pam > > McCain Enters the Autism Wars > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM > > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., > declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a mercury- > based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is > responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a > position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment. > > http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I sent somebody (possibly from another list) my grandsons' porphyrin profiles showing mercury poisoning...she was collecting them to take to Senator McCain...maybe it had an impact!Peace,Kathy E.On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Aasa wrote:Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) Aasaautismlink <cindyautismlink> wrote:I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html> > McCain Enters the Autism Wars> > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM> > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,> declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, a> mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,> is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.> > McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with> autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal> Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued> a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed> regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by> thimerosal.> > "We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this> question, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the womansaid.> > McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that> (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's> causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that> indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."> > McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with> "many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying> that's not the cause of it."> > The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it> sound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least as> the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side> against McCain's view.> > Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people> lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from> getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to> a very real health crisis.> > The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincing> scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in> vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the> injection site."> > The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data link> thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric> neurologic disorder, including autism."> > The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the> year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and> said that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as> a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."> > The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee> concluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection> of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and> autism."> > And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data> published last month indicated that there was "an increase in autism> in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."> > Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some> medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what> the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One> of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been> removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?> > (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American> Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because any> potential risk is of concern.")> > In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive> Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure> about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.> > Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines> -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost> every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.> > This could be quite controversial.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Yep, that's where I sent the test results. Thank you Lin!!Peace,Kathy E.On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:29 PM, King wrote:Lin Wessels and the folks at A-CHAMP have a lot to do with educating him on the issue. He was really touched by her son, Sam. He has also been advocating and speaking out for vaccine injured troops and military. He has been familiar with that issue for a while.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 that was Lin Wessels.Kathleen Eickwort <Kathleen_E@...> wrote: I sent somebody (possibly from another list) my grandsons' porphyrin profiles showing mercury poisoning...she was collecting them to take to Senator McCain...maybe it had an impact! Peace, Kathy E. On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Aasa wrote: Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) Aasaautismlink <cindyautismlink> wrote: I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html> > McCain Enters the Autism Wars> > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM> > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,> declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, a> mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,> is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.> > McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with> autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal> Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued> a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed> regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by> thimerosal.> > "We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this> question, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the womansaid.> > McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that> (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's> causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that> indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."> > McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with> "many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying> that's not the cause of it."> > The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it> sound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least as> the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side> against McCain's view.> > Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people> lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from> getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to> a very real health crisis.> > The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincing> scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in> vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the> injection site."> > The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data link> thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric> neurologic disorder, including autism."> > The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the> year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and> said that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as> a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."> > The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee> concluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection> of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and> autism."> > And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data> published last month indicated that there was "an increase in autism> in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."> > Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some> medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what> the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One> of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been> removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?> > (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American> Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because any> potential risk is of concern.")> > In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive> Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure> about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.> > Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines> -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost> every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.> > This could be quite controversial.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Sorry, no I don't believe I had seen that. Thanks for the info, Aasakimsense <kimrspencer@...> wrote: have you all not seen this??????????????????????????????????http://www.a-champ.org/McCain_Lieberman_letter.html--- In EOHarm , "Charlie Hoover" <.Hoover@...>wrote:>> > >> > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some > serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)> > > > Aasa> > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am > honored to call her friend.> > Thanks for the kudo!> > Charlie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 So it was me who asked McCain the question yesterday with more than a little help and support from Bob Krakow and the countless number of people, many on this list, who inspire me every day. It was the lead in our local news last night and I'm ecstatic that it's hit nationally as well. Definitely a definitive moment in my life. Here's to fighting the good fight! ~Jenni > > > > > > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some > > serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. > > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) > > > > > > Aasa > > > > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am > > honored to call her friend. > > > > Thanks for the kudo! > > > > Charlie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Thank you Jenni!! Fantastic!! Do you have a link to the local news broadcast that ran it?? - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Jenni Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:51 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: McCain Enters the Autism Wars So it was me who asked McCain the question yesterday with more than a little help and support from Bob Krakow and the countless number of people, many on this list, who inspire me every day. It was the lead in our local news last night and I'm ecstatic that it's hit nationally as well. Definitely a definitive moment in my life. Here's to fighting the good fight! ~Jenni > > > > > > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some > > serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. > > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) > > > > > > Aasa > > > > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am > > honored to call her friend. > > > > Thanks for the kudo! > > > > Charlie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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