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I saw an old interview with him where he said his wife used to be a special ed teacher and that someone they know has a child affected by autism, so he has a personal connection

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I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about!

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What if we (meaning everyone interested in the truth coming out)

forced the issue of the Simpsonwood meeting? As I understand it,

this was not only secret, but illegal as the drug company people were

there, therefore private industry was represented, but not the public

(except by the " governement of the people " ).

All three candidates are senators now, and I seriously doubt any

of them know about that meeting - yes, the transcripts are out on

ACHAMP for anyone to look at - but politicians don't have time to

look on the web (just like millions of American don't) or don't know

where to look. The drug reps would want to keep them well insulated

from the truth, and the Simpsonwood meeting was all executive branch

agencies (I think) - no legislative branch involvement at all. So

I'd think none of the political candidates would know.

What would they do if they were made to know? Preferably by a

number of parents at a campaign ralley who won't take no for an

ansewer, and have all virtually memorized the transcrips, all the

major mercury/other metal-autism links, know studies about

neurotoxicity of metals and other things, articles on the

immunological havoc vaccine overstimulation can wreak (if there are

any). People who can hold there own as well as the politicians, and

won't let them talk out of both sides of their mouths as they usually

do - if it is possible to not let them do this.

My cousin did this with his conservative, Republican boss once

about some or other policies - he shouted down ALL his bosses

arguments with his own, knew ALL his facts, had 4 or 5 good points

for each of his bosses arguments, and ended up " converting " a lage

number of his fellow employees to his side of the argument by the

end. This is the kind of person I'm thinking of.

If the candiates were made plainly aware of such illegality that

is ON RECORD in transcipt (WHY they put the had a transcript of a

secret illegal meeting I don't underand - you don't make incrimating

tapes of illegal activity.. Watergate taught crooks that!), how

would they respond? Prefereably with national news and independent

news camera rolling - the national news would try to bury it, the

independent new wouldn't) If Barak (and everyone else) is for

" change " , why not confront the with the need for REAL change - a few

people in jail for a start, and then a congressional order, or

executive order if that isn't done in 60 days of the next Congress

starting to:

1) to get rid of all mercury and other metals in all vaccines, and

destroy all current stocks of mercury (and possibly other metal)

containing vaccines in accordance with hazardous waster procedures.

2) Use single-dose units for all vaccines - or figure out to use

multi-dose units sterilly without any preservative (airlock on a

vaccine container perhaps? Would cost more than single-unit doses

3) Do *serious* reseach into biomedical treatments, including but not

limited to chelation therapy, HBOT, the Mag/B12 protocol, K2-

protocol, CF/GF/SF diets, the role of oxalates in autism,

fibromyalgia, and possibly other conditions, the role of

hypothyroidism and subclincal adrenal insufficienty in autism AND the

rest of the general public (both are enormous problems outside of

autism circles too), and the probably causes of the drastic rise in

autism in the US - vaccines, metals, flame retardants, organo-

chloride chemicals, endocrine and neurological disrupting chemcials,

over-stimulation of immature immune systems, etc.

4) Begin systematic research comparing autism rates between states

with differnet vaccinations schdules, and/or between countries that

have different scdules. Example is US vs Sweden from what I've

read. Sweden does not use the 'P' portion of the DPT shot (possibly

among other vaccines it ommits). Swedens's autism rate (as of I

think 2000 when Kennedy wrote his article) was about 0.. Why?

5) If vaccinations is to be continued, mandate post-vaccine antibody

testing to determine it's effectiveness. If it is not effective at a

particular age, scrap it. Research other ways to augment the immune

system naturally (zinc, selenium, B6, magnesium, etc).

6) Do comprehensive studies on how effective vaccines really are.

They keep saying that deaths from vaccines, while tragic, are nothing

compared to that from diseases in the past that " we are now protected

from " . The key here is *in the past*. Santitation is now better,

hygenic procedure is now better, the air is (somewhat) cleaner, adn

infection control measures are now in place. It is impossible and

irresponsible to compare two drasitcally different time-periods. I

have read that most diseaess, including polio, were in decline even

before vaccines were introduced against them. I also know that in

Africa when polio vaccines were prohibited by certain governments,

polio epidemics happend (although the same caveat of environment

applies to that comparison). I *don't* know if vaccines really do

protect us, or *how much*.

7) One large question after all this is done will be this - how much

do we want immunity against disease? I believe that if this immunity

is desired, it will require immunological research to find a

completely differnent way to induce the immune system to create

antibodies against such pathogens we don't want. Preferably, a

method that induced life-long immunity, with no need for booster

treatments. Preferbaly also an induction method that is more

" natural " than the current method of dumping an enormous load of pre-

prepaired antigens into the bloodstream, bypassing the first line

immune system defenses (the skin, mucous membranes, and broncial

tree, all of which probably have specialized immune cells specically

for detecting pathogens quickly).

The current " vaccine " methodalso bypassing key steps in the

production of antibodies naturally - the one I know about (not being

an immunologist) is the proessing of pathogen and selection of

epitopes for antibody production. I do not believe it is know

whether this process ONLY results in epitope selection (which is what

we do in making some vaccines), or whether this process activates

other parts of the immune system. It is hurbis to thing that we know

enough about these processes to avoid negative reactions (we can't

even make a flu shot that make immunity for more than a few months,

even if it IS the right virus).

This is my guess, but induction of immunity without the current

vaccine paradigm may include genetic modication of viruses/bacteria

(make them able do everything but not cause disease), and then let

the immune system work naturally - however this will probably fail

with viruses that " hide " in the system like herpes, EBV, and HIV

(ones I know about). It may also necessitate stimulation of immune

cells directly, as is currently in trials to re-create beta-cell

tolerance in Type 1 diabets (via CD3 acitvation via monoclonal

antibody).

There must be a discussion of what disease might truely merit

vaccination (I personally would say life-altering diseases such as

polio or menegitus), and which are simply " nuisensce " disease

(chicken pox).

8) Most or all of the current vaccine mandates must end, such as MMR

for graduate school I think. A side note - this could create an

interesting situation - if a person goes to graduate school, is

required to get the MMR vaccine and does so, then regresses, and then

recovers by chelation and other biomed means. This hypothetical

recovered autistic, being very high functioning BEFORE aquireing

autism, and retaining a high level (if not all) of that functionally

after recovering, would be an ideal spokesperson for in the autism

movement. I don't know if this has ever happened though.

9) Cases of recovery must be documented - including the one case I

read about of an early autism regression that was recognized by the

parents as mercury poisoning, treated very early with chelation

therapy, and led to almost complete recovery. This was very early in

the autism epidemic. I don't remembere where on the internet I read

it - I'm sure someone else knows this story and the source.

10) Find the money to do all of this..

As stated, this would take a LOT of money, and politicians never

want to spend money (unless they can pass it on to the next

generation, or at least to the next office-holder it seems). But

also ask the politicians this question, raised in the recent " Open

Letter to the AAP " - when the current generation of autistics become

" adults " (over 18), and start drawing on disability, which is a

greater fiscal burden on this country - that ongoing, (in some cases

institutional) care, or what I just outlined?

A last irony I'd like to note. In Kennedy's article " Deadly

Immunity " , Kenndy quotes (from the transcript I assume) Dr.

Brent as saying " We are in a bad position from the standpoint of

defending any lawsuits, " and states that " the government has proved

to be far more adept at handling the damage " .. Yet Rep. Dan Burton's

committee concluded " This epidemic in all probability may have been

prevented or curtailed.. "

We now have (and will have, when all the information finally comes

out into the bright sunshine for everyone to see) a BIGGER epidemic

that we did when the Simpsonwood meeting was help. The drug

companies have a much bigger problem - regaining the public's trust

in vaccines (at the least of their products). The drug industry may

be greedy, but they are not stupid. Secrets cannot be kept secret

forever. Why did they not see this train wreak coming?

Jim

" The naive one - I'd either make a great politician, or not last a

second at it.. "

On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:59 PM, anacat_11 wrote:

> The media will try to ignore it because the media chiefs are all

> Republicans (many individual reporters are libs) and the issue will

> threaten to fracture the party completely. But Limbaugh may rave about

> it until bigger media is forced to comment. Obama is unlikely to bring

> it up in debates unless McCain forces the issue, neither is he likely

> to use it as a point of attack. Hillary might if she were the nominee.

> The reason I think Obama won't touch it is because he may have the

> same

> bent, but the reporting on the remarks would be different if they came

> from him first or at all.

>

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The guy who wrote this doesn't know what he's writing about.

This guy does:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/senator-mccain-watch-

out_b_89318.html

Senator McCain: Watch Out For Incoming!

By Kirby

You, Senator, like it or not, are now a card-carrying member of

the " Mercury Militia. " You are a tin-foil hatter, a " denialist dead-

ender, " and an " anti-science " nut job grasping at emotional, litigious

straws.

>

> McCain Enters the Autism Wars

> February 29, 2008 7:11 PM

>

> At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,

> declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a mercury-

> based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is

> responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a

> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.

>

> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html

>

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McCain Enters the Autism Wars

February 29, 2008 7:11 PM

At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,

declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a

mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,

is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a

position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.

McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with

autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal

Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued

a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed

regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by

thimerosal.

" We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this

question, and are hoping that you can help us out there, " the woman said.

McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that " It's indisputable that

(autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's

causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that

indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines. "

McCain said there's " divided scientific opinion " on the matter, with

" many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying

that's not the cause of it. "

The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it

sound, however. Overwhelmingly the " credible scientists, " at least as

the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side

against McCain's view.

Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people

lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from

getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to

a very real health crisis.

The Centers for Disease Control says " There is no convincing

scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in

vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the

injection site. "

The American Academy of Pediatrics says " No scientific data link

thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric

neurologic disorder, including autism. "

The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the

year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and

said that it " found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as

a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions. "

The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee

concluded " that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection

of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and

autism. "

And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data

published last month indicated that there was " an increase in autism

in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines. "

Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some

medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what

the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One

of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been

removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?

(The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American

Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was " because any

potential risk is of concern. " )

In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive

Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure

about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.

Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines

-- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost

every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.

This could be quite controversial.

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Wow! I was a little miffed when McCain pre-empted the scheduled Larry King autism program on February 14th. Now,...I am amazed by the irony of it all,... autismlink <cindy@...> wrote: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html McCain Enters the Autism WarsFebruary 29, 2008 7:11 PMAt a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,declared that

"there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, amercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- aposition in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy withautism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of FederalClaims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issueda judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimedregressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused bythimerosal."We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to thisquestion, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the woman said.McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that(autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what'scausing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong

evidence thatindicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with"many on the other side that are credible scientists that are sayingthat's not the cause of it."The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made itsound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least asthe government and the medical establishment so ordain them, sideagainst McCain's view.Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful peoplelending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents fromgetting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead toa very real health crisis.The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincingscientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal invaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at theinjection

site."The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data linkthimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatricneurologic disorder, including autism."The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- theyear thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- andsaid that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal asa vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committeeconcluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejectionof a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines andautism."And a study of California Department of Developmental Services datapublished last month indicated that there was "an increase in autismin California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate

group -- including somemedical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute whatthe established medical community says about this wrenching issue. Oneof the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have beenremoved from the vaccines if there was no real harm?(The answer according to the Public Health Service, the AmericanAcademy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because anypotential risk is of concern.")In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptiveRepublican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sureabout thimerosal as the medical establishment is.Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines-- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almostevery childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.This could be quite controversial.

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I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html

>

> McCain Enters the Autism Wars

>

> February 29, 2008 7:11 PM

>

> At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,

> declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a

> mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,

> is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a

> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.

>

> McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with

> autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal

> Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued

> a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed

> regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by

> thimerosal.

>

> " We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this

> question, and are hoping that you can help us out there, " the woman

said.

>

> McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that " It's indisputable that

> (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's

> causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that

> indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines. "

>

> McCain said there's " divided scientific opinion " on the matter, with

> " many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying

> that's not the cause of it. "

>

> The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it

> sound, however. Overwhelmingly the " credible scientists, " at least as

> the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side

> against McCain's view.

>

> Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people

> lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from

> getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to

> a very real health crisis.

>

> The Centers for Disease Control says " There is no convincing

> scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in

> vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the

> injection site. "

>

> The American Academy of Pediatrics says " No scientific data link

> thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric

> neurologic disorder, including autism. "

>

> The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the

> year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and

> said that it " found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as

> a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions. "

>

> The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee

> concluded " that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection

> of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and

> autism. "

>

> And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data

> published last month indicated that there was " an increase in autism

> in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines. "

>

> Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some

> medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what

> the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One

> of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been

> removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?

>

> (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American

> Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was " because any

> potential risk is of concern. " )

>

> In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive

> Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure

> about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.

>

> Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines

> -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost

> every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.

>

> This could be quite controversial.

>

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> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html

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> McCain Enters the Autism Wars

WE SURE COULD USE A NAVY MAN 'BOUT NOW!

The below letter was delivered to Senator McCain by Lin Wessels

during the ACHAMP's meeting with him just prior to Thanksgiving.

Thanks Lin and ACHAMP!!

October 23, 2007

The Honorable McCain

241 Senate Office Building

United States Senate

Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator:

I have been informed that you are concerned about the autism epidemic

(now 1 in 150 children) and have promised to help find the cause. The

parents of children with autism have been told this time and time

before by other office seeking politicians, including the sitting

President, only to discover nothing of real substance happens once

they've taken the oath of office. If this is truly the case and not

election year rhetoric, it would be very welcomed by so many.

The causation of autism is indeed a complex and emotionally charged

issue. If you ask scientists what causes autism, the majority will

say " genes " . To date, millions and millions of dollars have been

spent looking for the ever elusive autism gene but it has yet to be

found. Other scientists will say it's impossible to have a genetic

epidemic (1 in 10,000 during the 1980s) and that doctors have just

gotten " better at diagnosing " . If this was indeed true, where then

are all the hordes of adults being diagnosed with autism? And still

other scientists, a small minority thank God, state the statistics

are wrong and there is " no epidemic " at all. Now if you ask a parent

what they believed caused their child's autism, the overwhelming

majority will simply say " vaccines " .

Remember back when we were kids and our Mothers would paint our

skinned knees all red with Merthiolate antiseptic? I bet you haven't

seen a bottle of Merthiolate in a very long time. Why? It's because

the FDA took it off the market years ago as it contained neurotoxic

mercury which was poisoning children. Unfortunately though, the FDA

was asleep at the switch and forgot to take this dangerous compound

out of vaccines. Why was this toxic antiseptic used in vaccines?

This is from the Bundaberg Australia Daily News and Mail dated

Monday, January 30th, 1928:

Immunisation Inoculation Proves Fatal

Twelve local children die after treatment on Friday

THE CITY IN A NIGHT BECOMES ONE OF MOURNING

ONE FAMILY'S LOSS IN THREE; ALL THE PARENTS HAD.

SPORT SUSPENDED IN SYMPATHY; PUBLIC FUNERALS TO-DAY.

It is an old but true saying " in the midst of life we are in death " .

Today Bundaberg mourns the loss of twelve fine little children, whose

bright young lives were nipped in the bud, as the result of some

maleficent quality that developed or was hidden in the immunising

serum injected into their arms on Friday for the purpose of assuring

their safety against the dreaded diphtheria that is so threatening at

this time.

The victims are:-

, 5 1/2 years Marsden Coates, 7

years

, 4 years Follitt, 2 ½

years

Mervyn , 23 months Sheppard, 5 years

Baker, 5 years Sheppard, 2 ½

years

Baker, 3 years Myrtle Brennan, 3 ½

years

Baker, 6 years Joan , 5 ½

years

HEARTRENDING SCENES

At the hospital there were heartrending scenes. By 11 o'clock there

were twenty children in the institution. Doctors and nurses worked

perseveringly in their efforts to save the valuable lives, but in

vain. the serum had done its deadly work, and the children writhed in

agony. The nurses never relaxed,. Oxygen was freely used to keep the

little hearts gong, but one by one they ceased to beat. At mid-day

four of the children had died, and as the afternoon wore on, there

were more deaths, with more to follow in the evening.

TRYING FOR THE STAFF

It was a never-to-be forgotten day for the hospital staff, what with

children dying, others writhing in the throes of death and the

sobbing of heartbroken parents, sisters and brothers, was a scene,

only those who went through it can describe. There were many touching

incidents in the ward. Mr & Mrs Sheppard had two of there children

die simultaneously. Despite this heavy blow they bore up with true

fortitude in hopes of their other two boys pulling through, and at

their bedsides a grief stricken father and mother maintain a silent

vigil.

THREE BOYS ALL GONE

Mr & Mrs Thos , East Bundaberg, lost their whole family-three

lovely little boys - , Willie and Mervyn-described by

neighbours as a happy trio, the two elder boys being greatly attached

to baby Merv. Mr and Mrs robinson are natives of England. They came

out to Bundaberg six years ago, and their family, now wiped out, were

natives of this city. " We did what we thought was in the best

interests of the children themselves and for the city, when we

decided to have them immunised against diphtheria, " said Mr and Mrs

. " Immunisation head been a success in other cities, and we

had every confidence in it. But apparently something has gone wrong,

and our little darlings count among the victims. Two days ago the

home was full of life, and look at it now. "

The Australians were so outraged by this tragedy that immunizations

were suspended and a Royal Commission was convened to investigate.

Their investigation determined that bacteria had contaminated the

sterile vaccine serum and produced a deadly toxin (similar to

botulism poisoning). It was recommended that either vaccines be

produced in single dose vials (which eliminated the possibility of

bacterial contamination) or that an antiseptic be added to the multi-

dose vials to maintain sterility. Shortly after the Bundaberg Serum

Tragedy, the vaccine manufacturers added Merthiolate antiseptic to

the multi-dose vials and changed the name to Thimerosal. This

dangerous mercurial compound has been " grandfathered in " vaccines

ever since without ever being adequately tested for safety.

If you look at when the autism epidemic began, you will see its right

around 1990. This so happens to be the same time that six

immunizations were added onto the children's immunization schedule

which nearly tripled the amount of mercury children received from

Thimerosal. There are many reputable people who are convinced this

caused the autism epidemic including the Honorable Dan Burton (R-IN),

who I urge you to personally contact.

I too am convinced that Thimerosal causes autism. My son, Lenny, was

a normal developing little boy who began displaying symptoms of

autism just days after his twelve month immunizations. By the time of

the formal diagnosis at age 2, he had the hallmarks of autism which

included losing all speech, spending hours doing self stimulatory

behaviors (spinning in circles), acting deaf, not making eye contact,

having multiple daily meltdowns, not sleeping more than 2 or three

hours at a time, not wanting to be held, etc. His mother and I were

told that there was no known cause or cure and that our precious son

would require lifelong support. Fortunately, the so called autism

experts were wrong. Today, Lenny is very much a normal boy. He has no

symptoms of autism, attends regular third grade (doing very well),

has lots of friends, and has earned his sixth belt (third Gup – high

blue) in Tae Kwon Do. How did we recover him?

In late 2000, I read a just released paper called " Autism – A Unique

Form of Mercury Poisoning " which compared the symptoms of autism to

those of mercury poisoning. Looking back at his shot record, I was

able to determine that my son received over 237.5mcg of mercury. We

quickly sought out the help of a pediatrician requesting chelation

therapy for heavy metal poisoning. Our son was prescribed

intermittent doses of an oral medication called DMSA, which by the

way is FDA approved for use in children for lead poisoning but it

also chelates mercury. Within a matter of weeks of giving the DMSA,

Lenny's symptoms noticeably improved and he began talking again.

Within one year of the treatments, a new evaluation revealed that

other than speech articulation (difficult to understand him

sometimes) he had no developmental delay. We were absolutely amazed!

After attending speech classes at our local elementary school, he was

age appropriate for speech and began kindergarten right on time.

Fortunately, our story of recovery is not unique. We've heard from

many other parents who say their child improved or even recovered

when they addressed the mercury issue (generationrescue.org). Many

parents even have laboratory tests proving their children are mercury

toxic. Unfortunately, the CDC and some powerful organizations

(including the American Academy of Pediatrics who receives millions

in pharmaceutical donations) dismiss us as kooks or make statements

that our children never really had autism in the first place. Senator

McCain, I am not a kook and my son really did have autism. I am a

retired U.S Navy Senior Chief Hospital Corpsman who proudly served

our Country for over thirty years (I even worked in 1973 at Naval

Hospital San Diego with many of the returning Vietnam POW Returnees).

And my son did have autism as confirmed by two separate evaluations,

including one at the Dan Marino Center for Autism at Miami's

Children's Hospital.

I find two things regarding all of this to be very ironic. One is

that the remedy (Thimerosal) for a terrible but limited tragedy years

ago has resulted in a nearly unfathomable conflagration affecting

millions today. The second irony is that there has been no outrage

like occurred in Australia 79 years ago. Why isn't the news media

loudly sounding the alarm when day after day our children are leaving

us? Why hasn't the Federal Government declared the autism epidemic a

National Emergency and taken real action? And why is Thimerosal still

being injected into children and pregnant women when they can make

vaccines mercury-free? How high must the rate of autism rise before

we hold our own " Royal Commission " to find the cause? One in a

hundred? One in fifty? One in ten?

I've been told that I'm wasting my time writing this. That once the

election is over, you'll forget all about your promise. I don't

believe this at all. You are a Navy Man just like me. We have been

taught to always take care of our own. America's children sure could

use a Navy Man `bout now.

Bravo Zulu Senator!

Respectfully yours,

HMCS(SW) A Hoover USN RET

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Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) Aasaautismlink <cindy@...> wrote: I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html> > McCain Enters the Autism Wars> > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM> > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,> declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, a> mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,> is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.> > McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with> autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of

Federal> Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued> a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed> regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by> thimerosal.> > "We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this> question, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the womansaid.> > McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that> (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's> causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that> indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."> > McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with> "many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying> that's not the cause of it."> > The established medical community is not

as divided as McCain made it> sound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least as> the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side> against McCain's view.> > Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people> lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from> getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to> a very real health crisis.> > The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincing> scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in> vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the> injection site."> > The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data link> thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric> neurologic disorder, including autism."> > The Food and Drug

Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the> year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and> said that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as> a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."> > The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee> concluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection> of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and> autism."> > And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data> published last month indicated that there was "an increase in autism> in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."> > Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some> medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what> the established medical community says

about this wrenching issue. One> of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been> removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?> > (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American> Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because any> potential risk is of concern.")> > In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive> Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure> about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.> > Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines> -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost> every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.> > This could be quite controversial.>

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McCain has been well educated on our issues

by an A-CHAMP Mom named Lin Wessels. Lin was able to have a forum with many

of the presidential candidates while they were campaigning in Iowa. McCain was the most receptive

and she and others consequently were invited to meet with him in Washington. He has

been provided a wealth of information from these encounters. Thank you

LIN! -

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I saw an old interview with him where he

said his wife used to be a special ed teacher and that someone they know has a

child affected by autism, so he has a personal connection

Kerrie

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I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he

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Lin Wessels and the folks at A-CHAMP have a lot to do with educating him on the

issue.

He was really touched by her son, Sam. He has also been advocating and speaking

out for

vaccine injured troops and military. He has been familiar with that issue for a

while.

>

>

> I saw an old interview with him where he said his wife used to be a special

> ed teacher and that someone they know has a child affected by autism, so he

> has a personal connection

>

> Kerrie

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> In a message dated 2/29/2008 7:46:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> cindy@... writes:

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> I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about!

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> Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some

serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities.

(Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)

>

> Aasa

I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am

honored to call her friend.

Thanks for the kudo!

Charlie

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have you all not seen this??????????????????????????????????

http://www.a-champ.org/McCain_Lieberman_letter.html

> >

> > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some

> serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities.

> (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)

> >

> > Aasa

>

> I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am

> honored to call her friend.

>

> Thanks for the kudo!

>

> Charlie

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And hopefully his staffer read the copy of EOH I gave him, also my son's book!

Barb

Re: McCain Enters the Autism Wars

have you all not seen this??????????????????????????????????http://www.a-champ.org/McCain_Lieberman_letter.html--- In EOHarm , "Charlie Hoover" <.Hoover@...>wrote:>> > >> > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some > serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)> > > > Aasa> > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am > honored to call her friend.> > Thanks for the kudo!> > Charlie>

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I wonder what the media will have to say about his comments. Will

they attack him or will they ignore it for fear that attacking him

will bring too much attention to the issue?

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The media will try to ignore it because the media chiefs are all

Republicans (many individual reporters are libs) and the issue will

threaten to fracture the party completely. But Limbaugh may rave about

it until bigger media is forced to comment. Obama is unlikely to bring

it up in debates unless McCain forces the issue, neither is he likely

to use it as a point of attack. Hillary might if she were the nominee.

The reason I think Obama won't touch it is because he may have the same

bent, but the reporting on the remarks would be different if they came

from him first or at all.

>

> I wonder what the media will have to say about his comments. Will

> they attack him or will they ignore it for fear that attacking him

> will bring too much attention to the issue?

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They'll poo-poo them as a right-wing conspiracy to ruin the vaccine

program. Now if we can get Obama to say it, then it will be deemed

fact from Authority Most High Rock Star.

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> I wonder what the media will have to say about his comments. Will

> they attack him or will they ignore it for fear that attacking him

> will bring too much attention to the issue?

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I apologize if this has been hashed out before, or if this is

naive - I'm new to EOHarm (and the " Autism Truth " movement as a whole).

What if we (meaning everyone interested in the truth coming out)

forced the issue of the Simpsonwood meeting? As I understand it,

this was not only secret, but illegal as the drug company people were

there, therefore private industry was represented, but not the public

(except by the " governement of the people " ).

All three candidates are senators now, and I seriously doubt any

of them know about that meeting - yes, the transcripts are out on

ACHAMP for anyone to look at - but politicians don't have time to

look on the web (just like millions of American don't) or don't know

where to look. The drug reps would want to keep them well insulated

from the truth, and the Simpsonwood meeting was all executive branch

agencies (I think) - no legislative branch involvement at all. So

I'd think none of the political candidates would know.

What would they do if they were made to know? Preferably by a

number of parents at a campaign ralley who won't take no for an

ansewer, and have all virtually memorized the transcrips, all the

major mercury/other metal-autism links, know studies about

neurotoxicity of metals and other things, articles on the

immunological havoc vaccine overstimulation can wreak (if there are

any). People who can hold there own as well as the politicians, and

won't let them talk out of both sides of their mouths as they usually

do - if it is possible to not let them do this.

My cousin did this with his conservative, Republican boss once

about some or other policies - he shouted down ALL his bosses

arguments with his own, knew ALL his facts, had 4 or 5 good points

for each of his bosses arguments, and ended up " converting " a lage

number of his fellow employees to his side of the argument by the

end. This is the kind of person I'm thinking of.

If the candiates were made plainly aware of such illegality that

is ON RECORD in transcipt (WHY they put the had a transcript of a

secret illegal meeting I don't underand - you don't make incrimating

tapes of illegal activity.. Watergate taught crooks that!), how

would they respond? Prefereably with national news and independent

news camera rolling - the national news would try to bury it, the

independent new wouldn't) If Barak (and everyone else) is for

" change " , why not confront the with the need for REAL change - a few

people in jail for a start, and then a congressional order, or

executive order if that isn't done in 60 days of the next Congress

starting to:

1) to get rid of all mercury and other metals in all vaccines, and

destroy all current stocks of mercury (and possibly other metal)

containing vaccines in accordance with hazardous waster procedures.

2) Use single-dose units for all vaccines - or figure out to use

multi-dose units sterilly without any preservative (airlock on a

vaccine container perhaps? Would cost more than single-unit doses

3) Do *serious* reseach into biomedical treatments, including but not

limited to chelation therapy, HBOT, the Mag/B12 protocol, K2-

protocol, CF/GF/SF diets, the role of oxalates in autism,

fibromyalgia, and possibly other conditions, the role of

hypothyroidism and subclincal adrenal insufficienty in autism AND the

rest of the general public (both are enormous problems outside of

autism circles too), and the probably causes of the drastic rise in

autism in the US - vaccines, metals, flame retardants, organo-

chloride chemicals, endocrine and neurological disrupting chemcials,

over-stimulation of immature immune systems, etc.

4) Begin systematic research comparing autism rates between states

with differnet vaccinations schdules, and/or between countries that

have different scdules. Example is US vs Sweden from what I've

read. Sweden does not use the 'P' portion of the DPT shot (possibly

among other vaccines it ommits). Swedens's autism rate (as of I

think 2000 when Kennedy wrote his article) was about 0.. Why?

5) If vaccinations is to be continued, mandate post-vaccine antibody

testing to determine it's effectiveness. If it is not effective at a

particular age, scrap it. Research other ways to augment the immune

system naturally (zinc, selenium, B6, magnesium, etc).

6) Do comprehensive studies on how effective vaccines really are.

They keep saying that deaths from vaccines, while tragic, are nothing

compared to that from diseases in the past that " we are now protected

from " . The key here is *in the past*. Santitation is now better,

hygenic procedure is now better, the air is (somewhat) cleaner, adn

infection control measures are now in place. It is impossible and

irresponsible to compare two drasitcally different time-periods. I

have read that most diseaess, including polio, were in decline even

before vaccines were introduced against them. I also know that in

Africa when polio vaccines were prohibited by certain governments,

polio epidemics happend (although the same caveat of environment

applies to that comparison). I *don't* know if vaccines really do

protect us, or *how much*.

7) One large question after all this is done will be this - how much

do we want immunity against disease? I believe that if this immunity

is desired, it will require immunological research to find a

completely differnent way to induce the immune system to create

antibodies against such pathogens we don't want. Preferably, a

method that induced life-long immunity, with no need for booster

treatments. Preferbaly also an induction method that is more

" natural " than the current method of dumping an enormous load of pre-

prepaired antigens into the bloodstream, bypassing the first line

immune system defenses (the skin, mucous membranes, and broncial

tree, all of which probably have specialized immune cells specically

for detecting pathogens quickly).

The current " vaccine " methodalso bypassing key steps in the

production of antibodies naturally - the one I know about (not being

an immunologist) is the proessing of pathogen and selection of

epitopes for antibody production. I do not believe it is know

whether this process ONLY results in epitope selection (which is what

we do in making some vaccines), or whether this process activates

other parts of the immune system. It is hurbis to thing that we know

enough about these processes to avoid negative reactions (we can't

even make a flu shot that make immunity for more than a few months,

even if it IS the right virus).

This is my guess, but induction of immunity without the current

vaccine paradigm may include genetic modication of viruses/bacteria

(make them able do everything but not cause disease), and then let

the immune system work naturally - however this will probably fail

with viruses that " hide " in the system like herpes, EBV, and HIV

(ones I know about). It may also necessitate stimulation of immune

cells directly, as is currently in trials to re-create beta-cell

tolerance in Type 1 diabets (via CD3 acitvation via monoclonal

antibody).

There must be a discussion of what disease might truely merit

vaccination (I personally would say life-altering diseases such as

polio or menegitus), and which are simply " nuisensce " disease

(chicken pox).

8) Most or all of the current vaccine mandates must end, such as MMR

for graduate school I think. A side note - this could create an

interesting situation - if a person goes to graduate school, is

required to get the MMR vaccine and does so, then regresses, and then

recovers by chelation and other biomed means. This hypothetical

recovered autistic, being very high functioning BEFORE aquireing

autism, and retaining a high level (if not all) of that functionally

after recovering, would be an ideal spokesperson for in the autism

movement. I don't know if this has ever happened though.

9) Cases of recovery must be documented - including the one case I

read about of an early autism regression that was recognized by the

parents as mercury poisoning, treated very early with chelation

therapy, and led to almost complete recovery. This was very early in

the autism epidemic. I don't remembere where on the internet I read

it - I'm sure someone else knows this story and the source.

10) Find the money to do all of this..

As stated, this would take a LOT of money, and politicians never

want to spend money (unless they can pass it on to the next

generation, or at least to the next office-holder it seems). But

also ask the politicians this question, raised in the recent " Open

Letter to the AAP " - when the current generation of autistics become

" adults " (over 18), and start drawing on disability, which is a

greater fiscal burden on this country - that ongoing, (in some cases

institutional) care, or what I just outlined?

A last irony I'd like to note. In Kennedy's article " Deadly

Immunity " , Kenndy quotes (from the transcript I assume) Dr.

Brent as saying " We are in a bad position from the standpoint of

defending any lawsuits, " and states that " the government has proved

to be far more adept at handling the damage " .. Yet Rep. Dan Burton's

committee concluded " This epidemic in all probability may have been

prevented or curtailed.. "

We now have (and will have, when all the information finally comes

out into the bright sunshine for everyone to see) a BIGGER epidemic

that we did when the Simpsonwood meeting was help. The drug

companies have a much bigger problem - regaining the public's trust

in vaccines (at the least of their products). The drug industry may

be greedy, but they are not stupid. Secrets cannot be kept secret

forever. Why did they not see this train wreak coming?

Jim

" The naive one - I'd either make a great politician, or not last a

second at it.. "

On Feb 29, 2008, at 10:59 PM, anacat_11 wrote:

> The media will try to ignore it because the media chiefs are all

> Republicans (many individual reporters are libs) and the issue will

> threaten to fracture the party completely. But Limbaugh may rave about

> it until bigger media is forced to comment. Obama is unlikely to bring

> it up in debates unless McCain forces the issue, neither is he likely

> to use it as a point of attack. Hillary might if she were the nominee.

> The reason I think Obama won't touch it is because he may have the

> same

> bent, but the reporting on the remarks would be different if they came

> from him first or at all.

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Rats. Although I'm so happy a candidate is making some strong

statements, I wish he hadn't targeted just the mercury... but instead

our vaccine schedule in general as the culprit.

Still, I'm so happy!

Pam

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> McCain Enters the Autism Wars

> February 29, 2008 7:11 PM

>

> At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,

> declared that " there's strong evidence " that thimerosal, a mercury-

> based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is

> responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a

> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.

>

> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html

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I sent somebody (possibly from another list) my grandsons' porphyrin profiles showing mercury poisoning...she was collecting them to take to Senator McCain...maybe it had an impact!Peace,Kathy E.On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Aasa wrote:Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) Aasaautismlink <cindyautismlink> wrote:I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html> > McCain Enters the Autism Wars> > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM> > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain, R-Ariz.,> declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, a> mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,> is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.> > McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with> autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal> Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued> a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed> regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by> thimerosal.> > "We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this> question, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the womansaid.> > McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that> (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's> causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that> indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."> > McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with> "many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying> that's not the cause of it."> > The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it> sound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least as> the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side> against McCain's view.> > Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people> lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from> getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to> a very real health crisis.> > The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincing> scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in> vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the> injection site."> > The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data link> thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric> neurologic disorder, including autism."> > The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999 -- the> year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and> said that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as> a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."> > The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee> concluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection> of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and> autism."> > And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data> published last month indicated that there was "an increase in autism> in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."> > Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some> medical researchers and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what> the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One> of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been> removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?> > (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American> Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because any> potential risk is of concern.")> > In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive> Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure> about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.> > Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines> -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost> every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.> > This could be quite controversial.>

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Yep, that's where I sent the test results. Thank you Lin!!Peace,Kathy E.On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:29 PM, King wrote:Lin Wessels and the folks at A-CHAMP have a lot to do with educating him on the issue. He was really touched by her son, Sam. He has also been advocating and speaking out for vaccine injured troops and military. He has been familiar with that issue for a while.. 

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that was Lin Wessels.Kathleen Eickwort <Kathleen_E@...> wrote: I sent somebody (possibly from another list) my grandsons' porphyrin profiles showing mercury poisoning...she was collecting them to take to Senator McCain...maybe it had an impact! Peace, Kathy E. On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Aasa wrote: Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!) Aasaautismlink <cindyautismlink> wrote: I'm amazed that he knew what the hell he was talking about! http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html> > McCain Enters the Autism Wars> > February 29, 2008 7:11 PM> > At a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. McCain,

R-Ariz.,> declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, a> mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines,> is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a> position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.> > McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with> autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal> Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued> a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed> regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by> thimerosal.> > "We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this> question, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the

womansaid.> > McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that> (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's> causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that> indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."> > McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with> "many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying> that's not the cause of it."> > The established medical community is not as divided as McCain made it> sound, however. Overwhelmingly the "credible scientists," at least as> the government and the medical establishment so ordain them, side> against McCain's view.> > Moreover, those scientists and organizations fear that powerful people> lending credence to the thimerosal theory could dissuade parents from> getting their children immunized -- which in their view would lead to> a very real health crisis.> > The Centers for Disease Control says "There is no convincing> scientific evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in> vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the> injection site."> > The American Academy of Pediatrics says"No scientific data link> thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines with any pediatric> neurologic disorder, including autism."> > The Food and Drug Administration conducted a review in 1999

-- the> year thimerosal was ordered to be removed from most vaccines -- and> said that it "found no evidence of harm from the use of thimerosal as> a vaccine preservative, other than local hypersensitivity reactions."> > The Institute of Medicine's Immunization Safety Review Committee> concluded "that the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection> of a causal relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and> autism."> > And a study of California Department of Developmental Services data> published last month indicated that there was "an increase in autism> in California despite the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines."> > Yet there is a vocal, determined, passionate group -- including some> medical researchers

and organizations -- who vehemently dispute what> the established medical community says about this wrenching issue. One> of the questions they ask is why would the thimerosal have been> removed from the vaccines if there was no real harm?> > (The answer according to the Public Health Service, the American> Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers was "because any> potential risk is of concern.")> > In any case, here we have a major political figure, the presumptive> Republican nominee, who stated that he at the very least isn't as sure> about thimerosal as the medical establishment is.> > Moreover, he made it sound as if the thimerosal is still in vaccines> -- though as I understand it, thimerosal is all but gone in almost>

every childhood vaccine now, and has been for years.> > This could be quite controversial.>

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Sorry, no I don't believe I had seen that. Thanks for the info, Aasakimsense <kimrspencer@...> wrote: have you all not seen this??????????????????????????????????http://www.a-champ.org/McCain_Lieberman_letter.html--- In EOHarm , "Charlie Hoover" <.Hoover@...>wrote:>> > >> > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given it some > serious consideration and further research, among other possibilities. > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)> > > > Aasa> > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good Senator. I am > honored to call her friend.> > Thanks for the kudo!> > Charlie>

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So it was me who asked McCain the question yesterday with more than

a little help and support from Bob Krakow and the countless number

of people, many on this list, who inspire me every day.

It was the lead in our local news last night and I'm ecstatic that

it's hit nationally as well. Definitely a definitive moment in my

life.

Here's to fighting the good fight!

~Jenni

> > >

> > > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given

it some

> > serious consideration and further research, among other

possibilities.

> > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)

> > >

> > > Aasa

> >

> > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good

Senator. I am

> > honored to call her friend.

> >

> > Thanks for the kudo!

> >

> > Charlie

> >

>

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Thank you Jenni!!

Fantastic!! Do you have a link to the

local news broadcast that ran it?? -

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Jenni

Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008

8:51 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: McCain

Enters the Autism Wars

So it was me who asked McCain the question yesterday

with more than

a little help and support from Bob Krakow and the countless number

of people, many on this list, who inspire me every day.

It was the lead in our local news last night and I'm ecstatic that

it's hit nationally as well. Definitely a definitive moment in my

life.

Here's to fighting the good fight!

~Jenni

> > >

> > > Hopefully, he had read Charlie Hoover's letter and had given

it some

> > serious consideration and further research, among other

possibilities.

> > (Excellent letter, by the way, Charlie!!)

> > >

> > > Aasa

> >

> > I think Lin Wessels was the person who educated the good

Senator. I am

> > honored to call her friend.

> >

> > Thanks for the kudo!

> >

> > Charlie

> >

>

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