Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 You may have seen this news story online. This main thing that struck me is that the leading cancer killer, lung cancer, is something most people could prevent by not smoking. And, 4 out of 5 will die within five years of diagnosis even with the medical profession's beloved chemo treatment. I'm surprised that the doctor admitted that fact. Probably the 5th person in the " 4 out of 5 " survey tried alternative ways to heal themselves. If you know someone who smokes, please share this story with them. The news story presented on homepage: By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer NEW YORK - Jennings, who revealed he has lung cancer Tuesday, plans to continue on " World News Tonight " as much as he can after beginning chemotherapy next week. Jennings, ABC's chief anchorman since 1983, planned to be at his desk Tuesday — a day after getting his diagnosis. A former smoker who quit several years ago, the 66-year-old anchor was too ill to work Saturday during the network's special report on Pope II's death. He hasn't been feeling well the past few months, and didn't travel under doctor's orders after December's tsunami because of what was described then as an upper respiratory infection. He did go to Iraq in January for the elections. " Almost 10 million Americans are living with cancer. I am sure I will learn from them how to cope with the facts of life that none of us anticipated. " Lung cancer is the leading cancer killer in the United States, and roughly four out of five people diagnosed with the disease die within five years, said Dr. Cliff Connery, chief of thoracic surgery at St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital in Manhattan. -------------------------------------- Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 > > You may have seen this news story online. This main thing that struck > me is that the leading cancer killer, lung cancer, is something most > people could prevent by not smoking. Yes, so we are told. However, America has the lowest rate of smoking and the highest rate of cancer in the world. Put this in your pipe... Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Elena wrote: > However, America has the lowest rate of smoking and the highest rate of cancer in the world. > > Put this in your pipe... Actually, Elena, the statistics based on the following Centers for Disease website indicate that lung cancer in the U.S. is decreasing as fewer people smoke. Try this in your pipe or pack. You sound as though you are defending the habit of smoking. http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/lung/statistics.htm Lung Cancer Trends: Lung cancer rates have been going down in the United States. For men: Lung cancer has been decreasing since the 1980s. Deaths from lung cancer have been decreasing since the 1990s. For women: Lung cancer has only been decreasing since 1998. Lung cancer death rates are not decreasing for women. However they have been about the same since 1995.23 Decreases in lung cancer cases and death rates stem from reductions in smoking patterns that began in the late 1970s for women, and earlier for men. Programs and policies that discourage smoking are vital to keep reducing the number of lung cancer cases and deaths.9,38 ---------------------------------- Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 > Actually, Elena, the statistics based on the following Centers for > Disease website indicate that lung cancer in the U.S. is decreasing > as fewer people smoke. Alas, not true. Lung cancer rates in women increased by -- how much d'you reckon? -- 46% -- let me spell it out: forty-six percent, since when do you think? -- 1998, let me spell this out too, in the past SIX years. How does the " if you get lung cancer it's your fault " crowd go about explaining this little oddball fact away? I'm sure we're not looking at a sudden 46% increase in smoking habits in women in six years, in ANY six years in history? so what gives?... Lots and lots and LOTS of things, only things that aren't under a private citizen's control at all, so they are a LOT less popular with the brainwashing machine operators and public delusion/misinformation manufacturers than the nicely packaged " if you get cancer it's your fault " variety. > You sound as > though you are defending the habit of smoking. Where exactly did you hear this sound? Since I didn't make it in my post, I'd be really curious as to its source in your mind. What I AM defending is a fully functional awareness. If it means that from time to time, things one might accidentally become aware of happen to clash, in a major way, with someone else's current belief system, party line, indoctrination, conformist drives, or scientific hypotheses (mistaken for " facts " throughout the history of science), then I would defend my right to let my awareness take precedence over all of the above. I was trying to make you (among others) aware of something worth (in my humble opinion) a closer look. If you feel you don't need to bother your awareness with too much reality in conflict with an important faith installment of yours... as a Simon song goes, " who am I to blow against the wind " ? Best wishes, Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 One would think that statistics by the people most indebted to the Cancer Industry would be meaningless. To listen to the 'Industry' one would think cancer is being cured at every turn because, they say, so many more people are alive with cancer today. Especially those that have not died within the five year period most often used in the past. I did not think that anyone was trying to justify smoking but rather just illustrating that there are probably other reasons for lung cancer besides smoking. However, I would not put that in my pipe and smoke it. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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