Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 I am unable to verify any of the following information and hope that someone with expertise or experience can comment on this very troubling information: Joe C. Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with chlorinated water. http://www.fulvic.com/healthalert/chlorine.htm Some of nature's most valuable and essential anti-cancer and anti-disease phytochemical nutrients which are commonly found in food have been discovered to form deadly cancer causing substances when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap water. This discovery includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, vegetables, tea, many health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven that these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds, that even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water treatment and chlorine industries for years. Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research scientists at the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka Prefectural University. They determined that natural organic substances originating from foods, including fruits, soy, and green or black tea, react when tap water is chlorinated, forming dangerous cancer causing compounds. These deadly compounds have been named MX, which stands for " unknown mutagen " , and are similar to the already well-known and more easily detected cancer causing THMs (trihalomethanes). The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies showed that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural organic plant phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained in tea, and flavonoids which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an extremely high consumption of tea, fruits, and soy products, it is easy to see how high amounts of residues from these foods would end up in their wastewater treatment and water recycling systems. Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in 1997 determined that MX is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic byproducts of chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to damage the thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors. THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic and fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of vegetation, including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic substances are the same as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction is water soluble and readily transported into streams and waterways, as well as utilized nutritionally by plants. Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and clarified the composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant amount of nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones, sterols, fatty acids, polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups include but are not limited to: flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones, isoflavones, tocopherols, etc. These compounds are some of the most valuable and promising anti-cancer nutrients found in our foods and health supplements. Coenzyme Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin, and rutin are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are implicated by chlorination. Amazingly, it has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain intact, concentrated, and intricately combined within humic substances; which are valuable remnants of nature's protective substances contained within fruits, flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds, as well as vegetative parts including roots, stems, bark, and leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and DNA remain intact. To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to develop special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic residues from water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is nothing wrong with the organic substances themselves, it is chlorine that is at fault for turning them into the deadly THM and MX cancer cocktail. Reality is that the organic substances have been shown to be highly beneficial combined with pure drinking water in trace amounts. The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath water, and the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing agents by chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant foods we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our meals, creating toxins. This means that fresh fruits and vegetables, green salads, green tea, black tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills and various health supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can be implicated in combination with chlorinated water. The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely toxic in infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are extremely difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When the concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in concentrated health supplements, or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile soils, the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies. It has been known by the water treatment and chemical industries for many years that chlorine reacts negatively with natural organic compounds. These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection by-products) which are known to cause cancer in populations whose drinking water contains them. THM, the most commonly known DBP, is known to cause a high incidence of bladder cancer and also to cause spontaneous abortion of fetuses. The Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their restrictions on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter restrictions are just around the bend. Yet it is interesting to note that the many government agencies and chlorine industries have conveniently neglected to take a serious look at food, health supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption, preparation, and production relating to use of chlorinated tap water. This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 The article complete with references is available at the following URL: http://www.fulvic.com/healthalert/chlorine.htm Re: [ ] Chlorine/Cancer/Supplements I am unable to verify any of the following information and hope that someone with expertise or experience can comment on this very troubling information: Joe C. Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with chlorinated water. http://www.fulvic.com/healthalert/chlorine.htm Some of nature's most valuable and essential anti-cancer and anti-disease phytochemical nutrients which are commonly found in food have been discovered to form deadly cancer causing substances when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap water. This discovery includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, vegetables, tea, many health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven that these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds, that even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water treatment and chlorine industries for years. Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research scientists at the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka Prefectural University. They determined that natural organic substances originating from foods, including fruits, soy, and green or black tea, react when tap water is chlorinated, forming dangerous cancer causing compounds. These deadly compounds have been named MX, which stands for " unknown mutagen " , and are similar to the already well-known and more easily detected cancer causing THMs (trihalomethanes). The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies showed that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural organic plant phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained in tea, and flavonoids which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an extremely high consumption of tea, fruits, and soy products, it is easy to see how high amounts of residues from these foods would end up in their wastewater treatment and water recycling systems. Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in 1997 determined that MX is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic byproducts of chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to damage the thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors. THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic and fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of vegetation, including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic substances are the same as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction is water soluble and readily transported into streams and waterways, as well as utilized nutritionally by plants. Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and clarified the composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant amount of nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones, sterols, fatty acids, polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups include but are not limited to: flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones, isoflavones, tocopherols, etc. These compounds are some of the most valuable and promising anti-cancer nutrients found in our foods and health supplements. Coenzyme Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin, and rutin are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are implicated by chlorination. Amazingly, it has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain intact, concentrated, and intricately combined within humic substances; which are valuable remnants of nature's protective substances contained within fruits, flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds, as well as vegetative parts including roots, stems, bark, and leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and DNA remain intact. To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to develop special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic residues from water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is nothing wrong with the organic substances themselves, it is chlorine that is at fault for turning them into the deadly THM and MX cancer cocktail. Reality is that the organic substances have been shown to be highly beneficial combined with pure drinking water in trace amounts. The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath water, and the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing agents by chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant foods we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our meals, creating toxins. This means that fresh fruits and vegetables, green salads, green tea, black tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills and various health supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can be implicated in combination with chlorinated water. The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely toxic in infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are extremely difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When the concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in concentrated health supplements, or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile soils, the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies. It has been known by the water treatment and chemical industries for many years that chlorine reacts negatively with natural organic compounds. These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection by-products) which are known to cause cancer in populations whose drinking water contains them. THM, the most commonly known DBP, is known to cause a high incidence of bladder cancer and also to cause spontaneous abortion of fetuses. The Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their restrictions on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter restrictions are just around the bend. Yet it is interesting to note that the many government agencies and chlorine industries have conveniently neglected to take a serious look at food, health supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption, preparation, and production relating to use of chlorinated tap water. This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 It should follow that Europe has far less cancer than the USA because they protect their water with hydrogen peroxide, not chlorine. But Europe has lots of cancer too. If you let water stand for some hours I believe the chlorine escapes. Drinking directly from a tap must be the worst thing you can do. How much chlorine faucet and pitcher filters remove I don't know, but probably a lot. I don't drink chlorinated water if I don't have to. With the surge in drinking bottled water our cancer rates should drop, right? I've seen no evidence of that. Loren Re: [ ] Chlorine/Cancer/Supplements > > > I am unable to verify any of the following information and hope that > someone > with expertise or experience can comment on this very troubling > information: > > Joe C. > > Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with chlorinated > water. http://www.fulvic.com/healthalert/chlorine.htm Some of nature's > most > valuable and essential anti-cancer and anti-disease phytochemical > nutrients > which are commonly found in food have been discovered to form deadly > cancer > causing substances when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap water. > > This discovery includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, vegetables, > tea, many health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven > that > these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds, that > even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water treatment > and > chlorine industries for years. > > Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research scientists at > the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka Prefectural > University. They determined that natural organic substances originating > from > foods, including fruits, soy, and green or black tea, react when tap > water > is chlorinated, forming dangerous cancer causing compounds. These deadly > compounds have been named MX, which stands for " unknown mutagen " , and are > similar to the already well-known and more easily detected cancer causing > THMs (trihalomethanes). > > The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies showed > that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural organic plant > phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained in tea, and > flavonoids > which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an extremely high consumption > of > tea, fruits, and soy products, it is easy to see how high amounts of > residues from these foods would end up in their wastewater treatment and > water recycling systems. Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in 1997 > determined that MX is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic > byproducts of chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to damage > the thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors. > > THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic and > fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of vegetation, > including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic substances are the > same > as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction is water soluble and readily > transported into streams and waterways, as well as utilized nutritionally > by > plants. Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and clarified > the > composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant amount > of > nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones, sterols, fatty > acids, > polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups include but are not limited to: > flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones, isoflavones, > tocopherols, etc. These compounds are some of the most valuable and > promising anti-cancer nutrients found in our foods and health > supplements. > Coenzyme Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a > tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin, and > rutin > are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and > isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are > implicated by chlorination. > > Amazingly, it has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain > intact, > concentrated, and intricately combined within humic substances; which are > valuable remnants of nature's protective substances contained within > fruits, > flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds, as well as vegetative parts including > roots, stems, bark, and leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and DNA > remain intact. > > To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to develop > special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic residues from > water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is nothing wrong with the > organic substances themselves, it is chlorine that is at fault for > turning > them into the deadly THM and MX cancer cocktail. Reality is that the > organic > substances have been shown to be highly beneficial combined with pure > drinking water in trace amounts. > > The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these > substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath water, > and > the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing agents by > chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant > foods > we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our > meals, creating toxins. This means that fresh fruits and vegetables, > green > salads, green tea, black tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills and > various health supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can > be > implicated in combination with chlorinated water. > > The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely toxic > in > infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are extremely > difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When the > concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in concentrated health > supplements, or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile > soils, > the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies. It has been known > by > the water treatment and chemical industries for many years that chlorine > reacts negatively with natural organic compounds. > > These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection by-products) > which > are known to cause cancer in populations whose drinking water contains > them. > THM, the most commonly known DBP, is known to cause a high incidence of > bladder cancer and also to cause spontaneous abortion of fetuses. The > Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their > restrictions > on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter restrictions are just around > the > bend. Yet it is interesting to note that the many government agencies and > chlorine industries have conveniently neglected to take a serious look at > food, health supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption, > preparation, > and production relating to use of chlorinated tap water. > > This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from > http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Loren, you write: >> " With the surge in drinking bottled water our cancer rates should drop, right? I've seen no evidence of that " . -- I think this type of logic could be valid to an extent in laboratory conditions, where one is able to isolate and manipulate variables. I don't think that is how it works in the real world. There are many cancer contributing factors that have no lesser weight than chlorine in this massive and complex maze. So, in fact even if you are able to control (eliminate) one variable, ie chlorine, while a host of other cancer producing factors are in fact intensifying (or at least not remaining constant) we are yet again unable to induce a thing. Would you agree? Gubi Re: [ ] Chlorine/Cancer/Supplements >> >> >> I am unable to verify any of the following information and hope that >> someone >> with expertise or experience can comment on this very troubling >> information: >> >> Joe C. >> >> Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with chlorinated >> water. http://www.fulvic.com/healthalert/chlorine.htm Some of nature's >> most >> valuable and essential anti-cancer and anti-disease phytochemical >> nutrients >> which are commonly found in food have been discovered to form deadly >> cancer >> causing substances when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap water. >> >> This discovery includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, >> vegetables, >> tea, many health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven >> that >> these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds, that >> even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water treatment >> and >> chlorine industries for years. >> >> Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research scientists >> at >> the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka Prefectural >> University. They determined that natural organic substances originating >> from >> foods, including fruits, soy, and green or black tea, react when tap >> water >> is chlorinated, forming dangerous cancer causing compounds. These deadly >> compounds have been named MX, which stands for " unknown mutagen " , and >> are >> similar to the already well-known and more easily detected cancer >> causing >> THMs (trihalomethanes). >> >> The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies showed >> that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural organic >> plant >> phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained in tea, and >> flavonoids >> which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an extremely high consumption >> of >> tea, fruits, and soy products, it is easy to see how high amounts of >> residues from these foods would end up in their wastewater treatment and >> water recycling systems. Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in >> 1997 >> determined that MX is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic >> byproducts of chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to >> damage >> the thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors. >> >> THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic and >> fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of vegetation, >> including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic substances are the >> same >> as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction is water soluble and readily >> transported into streams and waterways, as well as utilized >> nutritionally >> by >> plants. Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and clarified >> the >> composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant amount >> of >> nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones, sterols, fatty >> acids, >> polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups include but are not limited >> to: >> flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones, >> isoflavones, >> tocopherols, etc. These compounds are some of the most valuable and >> promising anti-cancer nutrients found in our foods and health >> supplements. >> Coenzyme Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a >> tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin, and >> rutin >> are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and >> isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are >> implicated by chlorination. >> >> Amazingly, it has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain >> intact, >> concentrated, and intricately combined within humic substances; which >> are >> valuable remnants of nature's protective substances contained within >> fruits, >> flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds, as well as vegetative parts including >> roots, stems, bark, and leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and >> DNA >> remain intact. >> >> To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to develop >> special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic residues from >> water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is nothing wrong with the >> organic substances themselves, it is chlorine that is at fault for >> turning >> them into the deadly THM and MX cancer cocktail. Reality is that the >> organic >> substances have been shown to be highly beneficial combined with pure >> drinking water in trace amounts. >> >> The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these >> substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath water, >> and >> the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing agents by >> chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant >> foods >> we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our >> meals, creating toxins. This means that fresh fruits and vegetables, >> green >> salads, green tea, black tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills and >> various health supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can >> be >> implicated in combination with chlorinated water. >> >> The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely toxic >> in >> infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are extremely >> difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When the >> concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in concentrated >> health >> supplements, or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile >> soils, >> the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies. It has been known >> by >> the water treatment and chemical industries for many years that chlorine >> reacts negatively with natural organic compounds. >> >> These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection by-products) >> which >> are known to cause cancer in populations whose drinking water contains >> them. >> THM, the most commonly known DBP, is known to cause a high incidence of >> bladder cancer and also to cause spontaneous abortion of fetuses. The >> Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their >> restrictions >> on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter restrictions are just around >> the >> bend. Yet it is interesting to note that the many government agencies >> and >> chlorine industries have conveniently neglected to take a serious look >> at >> food, health supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption, >> preparation, >> and production relating to use of chlorinated tap water. >> >> This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from >> http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 I found this article very interesting. Dr. Hulda e, cancer researcher and author, has recently been exploring the link between chlorine and cancer. My friend Mel, with oral cancer for 3 yrs, has been in contact with her and she suggested he stop drinking chlorinated water. Since early summer he has used pure well water that we had tested for chlorine and been more aware of chlorine in other products he uses. Of course his tumour hasn't miraculously disappeared since he's stopped drinking tap water but his general health has greatly improved since last summer when we all thought he was on death's doorstep. I don't know how big a role the unchlorinated water played in his renewed health, but little else changed in his daily routine to account for this change. I do think anyone battling cancer should consider purchasing bottled water if they don't have a source of unchlorinated well water. > It should follow that Europe has far less cancer than the USA because they > protect their water with hydrogen peroxide, not chlorine. But Europe has > lots of cancer too. > > If you let water stand for some hours I believe the chlorine escapes. > Drinking directly from a tap must be the worst thing you can do. How much > chlorine faucet and pitcher filters remove I don't know, but probably a lot. > I don't drink chlorinated water if I don't have to. With the surge in > drinking bottled water our cancer rates should drop, right? I've seen no > evidence of that. > > Loren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 You are correct in my view. I was responding to what I believed was an overemphasis on chlorine. It may be a factor, but experience shows it is not a major factor. Loren Re: [ ] Chlorine/Cancer/Supplements >>> >>> >>> I am unable to verify any of the following information and hope that >>> someone >>> with expertise or experience can comment on this very troubling >>> information: >>> >>> Joe C. >>> >>> Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with chlorinated >>> water. http://www.fulvic.com/healthalert/chlorine.htm Some of nature's >>> most >>> valuable and essential anti-cancer and anti-disease phytochemical >>> nutrients >>> which are commonly found in food have been discovered to form deadly >>> cancer >>> causing substances when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap >>> water. >>> >>> This discovery includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, >>> vegetables, >>> tea, many health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven >>> that >>> these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds, >>> that >>> even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water treatment >>> and >>> chlorine industries for years. >>> >>> Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research scientists >>> at >>> the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka Prefectural >>> University. They determined that natural organic substances originating >>> from >>> foods, including fruits, soy, and green or black tea, react when tap >>> water >>> is chlorinated, forming dangerous cancer causing compounds. These >>> deadly >>> compounds have been named MX, which stands for " unknown mutagen " , and >>> are >>> similar to the already well-known and more easily detected cancer >>> causing >>> THMs (trihalomethanes). >>> >>> The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies >>> showed >>> that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural organic >>> plant >>> phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained in tea, and >>> flavonoids >>> which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an extremely high consumption >>> of >>> tea, fruits, and soy products, it is easy to see how high amounts of >>> residues from these foods would end up in their wastewater treatment >>> and >>> water recycling systems. Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in >>> 1997 >>> determined that MX is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic >>> byproducts of chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to >>> damage >>> the thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors. >>> >>> THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic and >>> fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of vegetation, >>> including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic substances are the >>> same >>> as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction is water soluble and >>> readily >>> transported into streams and waterways, as well as utilized >>> nutritionally >>> by >>> plants. Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and >>> clarified >>> the >>> composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant >>> amount >>> of >>> nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones, sterols, fatty >>> acids, >>> polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups include but are not limited >>> to: >>> flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones, >>> isoflavones, >>> tocopherols, etc. These compounds are some of the most valuable and >>> promising anti-cancer nutrients found in our foods and health >>> supplements. >>> Coenzyme Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a >>> tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin, and >>> rutin >>> are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and >>> isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are >>> implicated by chlorination. >>> >>> Amazingly, it has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain >>> intact, >>> concentrated, and intricately combined within humic substances; which >>> are >>> valuable remnants of nature's protective substances contained within >>> fruits, >>> flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds, as well as vegetative parts including >>> roots, stems, bark, and leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and >>> DNA >>> remain intact. >>> >>> To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to develop >>> special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic residues from >>> water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is nothing wrong with the >>> organic substances themselves, it is chlorine that is at fault for >>> turning >>> them into the deadly THM and MX cancer cocktail. Reality is that the >>> organic >>> substances have been shown to be highly beneficial combined with pure >>> drinking water in trace amounts. >>> >>> The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these >>> substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath >>> water, >>> and >>> the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing agents by >>> chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant >>> foods >>> we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our >>> meals, creating toxins. This means that fresh fruits and vegetables, >>> green >>> salads, green tea, black tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills >>> and >>> various health supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can >>> be >>> implicated in combination with chlorinated water. >>> >>> The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely toxic >>> in >>> infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are extremely >>> difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When the >>> concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in concentrated >>> health >>> supplements, or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile >>> soils, >>> the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies. It has been known >>> by >>> the water treatment and chemical industries for many years that >>> chlorine >>> reacts negatively with natural organic compounds. >>> >>> These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection by-products) >>> which >>> are known to cause cancer in populations whose drinking water contains >>> them. >>> THM, the most commonly known DBP, is known to cause a high incidence of >>> bladder cancer and also to cause spontaneous abortion of fetuses. The >>> Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their >>> restrictions >>> on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter restrictions are just >>> around >>> the >>> bend. Yet it is interesting to note that the many government agencies >>> and >>> chlorine industries have conveniently neglected to take a serious look >>> at >>> food, health supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption, >>> preparation, >>> and production relating to use of chlorinated tap water. >>> >>> This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from >>> http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 When I look at various filters, faucet types that get good ratings from Consumers Reports, I see Chlorine taste and odor being removed and that makes me wonder if the problem elements are left to return. Loren's suggestion about Europe having lots of cancer while not using Chlorine is noteworthy. I suppose we should try our best to avoid it and his suggestion about letting it stand to effect evaporation might be useful. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Bottled water. Informative sources that test bottled water reveal that plastic bottles leach various cancer causing chemical into the water and some bottled water has definite taste differences. The soft plastic bottles, gallon size, leach more chemicals than do the harder clear types......but they all leach chemicals into the water selected for its purity. Most bottled water is water supplied by Municipal Water supplies and the bottle label reveals the source. You therefore are just buying tap water placed in convenient containers! Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Hello, I do feel however that its worth the effort.Though i agree with you on the fact that its complex as the choices are myraid. I am not sure whether we are all aware of this, but certain aasans(positions) in yoga are miraculous in curing cancer.Our sgaes in India have been pontifying on this since years yet i have heard this voice only now. I do feel some of you could try. Regards Aashish --- Gubi <gubisara@...> wrote: > Loren, you write: > >> " With the surge in > drinking bottled water our cancer rates should drop, > right? I've seen no > evidence of that " . > -- I think this type of logic could be valid to an > extent in laboratory > conditions, where one is able to isolate and > manipulate variables. > I don't think that is how it works in the real > world. There are many cancer > contributing factors that have no lesser weight than > chlorine in this > massive and complex maze. So, in fact even if you > are able to control > (eliminate) one variable, ie chlorine, while a host > of other cancer > producing factors are in fact intensifying (or at > least not remaining > constant) we are yet again unable to induce a thing. > Would you agree? > > Gubi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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