Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 Hi, Thank you for sharing about Maggie. I am glad she found an honest doctor not willing to do harm first. I pray in the name of Jesus that Maggie will receive her healing and that she will receive wisdom and direction for natural avenues of healing, that first do no harm. Amen I have something to share that has come to me. Every since I heard Dusan talk about the sulfter in the cottage cheese and Omega 3 having a good effect in helping heal cancer. I have been extremely curious as to how it works and I remember garlic has sulfer and so does MSM and I wonder if they are as effective as cottage cheese. But while checking all this out and trying to learn and understand, I ran into a product that is new and is derived from whey and is called GSH. ( A very strong antioxidant amino acid combination) that the FDA in the US and Canada has approved for use and can be prescribed by doctors. At first I assumed it must not be affective if they approved it. But after reading the research and what the Doctors are saying about it, I am very impressed. But the reason I want to share this with you is because it has been effective in not only helping with cancer and many other things, it seems to help with the wasting effect. Maggie may benefit from this. But look at it and if you decide it is worth sharing, please do. They also sell it like an MLM and I had to sign up as a distributor to get 25 percent off. It cost nothing to sign up, so I did. I am now checking out whey products and seeing if they have the same effect. But anyway see what you think. God Bless Diann Messer <A HREF= " http://www.immunocal.org/ " >Immunocal For A Healthier Life ID#18711 (888-917-7779)</A> http://www.immunocal.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 Dear Vilik, I greatly admire your courage, strength, and good spirits. Please pass along the message to Maggie. Dear Maggie, I wanted to let you know that you are in our prayers in Hawaii. We will be thinking of you and sending our love. Jeff Maggie's Journey >From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > >To the list, > > As many of you who have been reading my posts know, my stepdaughter, >Margaret, (who wants to be called Maggie now), 20, was diagnosed with >cancer several months ago, thus beginning an intense journey for both >herself and her family. > > I fully expected that, given the belief systems of Maggie and her >parents, her treatment would be chemotherapy. But what we all discovered, >however, during the trek from oncologist to oncologist, and from digging >and digging under what the oncologists were saying, was that the type of >cancer she has, malignant fibrous histiocytoma, at the stage she has it, >has NEVER been successfully treated by chemo. Yet, all the oncologists >wanted to do it. At the high doses they would have used, that would have >meant not only hair loss and nausea, but sores in the mouth, even more >weakness, vulnerablilty to infection. We finally met a oncologist, a woman, >who was willing to look Maggie in the eye and say, " If it were me, I >wouldn't chemo. " > > Meanwhile I was researching, and finally ended up talking to a Dr. Wong >in Hong Kong, who has a treatment which he claims is extraordinarily >effective. My cancer treatment mentor, Gammill, called Dr. Wong >himself, and also had a friend who lives in Hong Kong investigate. >finally concluded that he liked the treatment very much. > > Exactly 12 days ago Maggie began the treatment, which consists of a >number of pills a day. There have been subtle signs of change, but very >subtle. She continues to lose weight; she continues to weaken. > > had another client who started the antineon treatment at about >the same time. His tumor has gone down 1/3, and he is in less pain. > > But Maggie's cancer is a very rare and very deadly one, in a very >advanced stage. Can we keep her alive long enough for the treatment to have >a chance to work? Right now most food comes back up, in spite of trying >several antinausea medications. (And, yes, have tried a number of >suggestions you all have given me.) > > The next few weeks will, I believe, tell the story. > > So, please...those of you who pray -- send your prayers? Those of you who >do Reiki, energy work, visualization -- send your energy? Those of you who >simply feel compassion -- we could use that too. > > If you would like to email Maggie directly, just send the messages to me. > >Peace, health and hope, > >Vilik > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? > >Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the following address >DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. > oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 At 09:43 26.02.99 -0800, you wrote: >From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > > But Maggie's cancer is a very rare and very deadly one, in a very >advanced stage. Can we keep her alive long enough for the treatment to have >a chance to work? Right now most food comes back up, in spite of trying >several antinausea medications. (And, yes, have tried a number of >suggestions you all have given me.) > > The next few weeks will, I believe, tell the story. > I was just thinking, so I just have to write this letter. I am not writing it in order to start any kind of arguing, I just think that what I heard does not sound smart. Vilik, try to listen to her body, please! Why do you think that you or docs know more than her body ? Evolution (or call it GOD if you like it more ) have been creating this what we call human body for billions of years!!! >>>Right now most food comes back up If it comes back up, than it mean only this: She does not need THAT food!!! Did you try with carrot juice, (later with or wheat or barley grass juice) ? If she drink just a very little amounth , it will not come back ! Did you try with probiotics ? Do not bee affraid of loosing weight. It is good to loose weight ! Nobody have cured cancer without loosing weight! NOBODY !!! Remember, the main causes of cancer are Toxins, Nutritional deficiency, and Poor digestion ! Bowel parasites(bacteria,yeasts,viruses,protozoa,worms) may be also important cause. If those causes are not removed, she will hardly cure herself. Does she have some dental metal ? Did you try Bob Becks Silver Pulser as Antiparasite complementar therapy ? Do not neglect parasites and dental risk: Read this : http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer_prostate_larry.html http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer_dr_lorriane_day.html Read this: http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer_dental_risk.html OK. I will put it here: Dr Hal Huggins, D.D.S. in a lecture to the Cancer Control Society 1993. Tape 93F014. Cancer Control Society, 2043 N. Berendo St, LA, CA 90027. Ph: 213 663 7801. Dr Huggins, D.D.S: In California we found a woman who had some nickel crowns placed, she ended up with a specific type of breast tumour and she went through the lumpectomy, she went to the support group afterwards, and she said to me you know my husband was talking to this guy out in Colorado about nickel being carcinogenic. What does that mean? That mean it produces cancer. Do you suppose there is any relationship between my crowns and my breast tumour? Another woman in the group said - well I went to Dr So and So dentist down the street here. He put nickel crowns in my mouth and a couple of years later I came down with this same tumour you have got. She said - that is the same dentist I went to. And then we found a third woman who had the same crown, the same tumour, the same dentist. Same day we found a fourth woman with the same crown, the same tumour, the same dentist. Then we found a fifth, then a sixth. Is this suggestive of the need for further investigation? Or should we cover it up? Are there really 100,000 women in the state of California growing breast tumours as a result of their nickel crowns right now as we are sitting here today? Is that a possibility? And you know what? They paid for that!!! They paid to have that done!!! Now, is there anything in the scientific literature on this? Yes. Dr Moss was mentioning someone talking about 1000's of articles. Yes, there are 1000's of articles on nickel being a carcinogen. There are not thousands, but maybe hundreds of articles showing that nickel does something else. After nickel gets the cancer going how do you keep it under control? You keep it under control with one of the white blood cells called a natural killer cell, the NK cell. What does it do? It goes out and it kills off the cancer cells. Now all the rest of the immune system has to ask somebody. The B's have to ask the T lymphocytes, and so on, everything is a committee in the immune system, except the NK cells. There is cancer---bang. They don't ask anybody. These are nice guys to have around. What does nickel do? It suppresses your NK cells. So nickel starts the tumour, then takes away your defences system. Is that nice? No, that is not nice. That is not nice to put on children aged two with their chrome crowns. That is not nice to put in our teenagers, or adults, with braces. It is not nice to use as crowns and bridges just because you save ten bucks. Is it worth ten bucks to go through breast surgery? If you feel that way have it but be informed ---if you want mercury in your mouth, if you want nickel, OK, but how many people in this room have nickel crowns in their mouth? How many people have nickel crowns put in their mouth when they paid for gold crowns? It is estimated that 50% of the dentists put in nickel crowns and charge the insurance companies, or charge you for gold. Nickel does not cost the same as gold. Nickel is not as safe as gold. The rest is here: http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer_dental_risk.html Dusan Stojkovic Norway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 In a message dated 2/26/99 4:38:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, Eat2Heal@... writes: << I have something to share that has come to me. Every since I heard Dusan talk about the sulfur in the cottage cheese and Omega 3 having a good effect in helping heal cancer. I have been extremely curious as to how it works and I remember garlic has sulfur and so does MSM and I wonder if they are as effective as cottage cheese. .....You are absolutely correct, Sulfur is a key ingredient. But while checking all this out and trying to learn and understand, I ran into a product that is new and is derived from whey and is called GSH. ( A very strong antioxidant amino acid combination) that the FDA in the US and Canada has approved for use and can be prescribed by doctors. At first I assumed it must not be affective if they approved it. But after reading the research and what the Doctors are saying about it, I am very impressed. .....I know what you mean when it comes to having faith in the FDA and prescriptions. I also test that GSH is very good, on a scale of 1 - 10, it scores a 9. But the reason I want to share this with you is because it has been effective in not only helping with cancer and many other things, it seems to help with the wasting effect. Maggie may benefit from this. .....I see what you mean. Yes, cancer is just another imbalance in the body, all disease is a result of an imbalance. The problem with supplements, they will never provide the entire answer. There are other pieces of the puzzle that must also be included in order to honestly, completely heal. But look at it and if you decide it is worth sharing, please do. They also sell it like an MLM and I had to sign up as a distributor to get 25 percent off. It cost nothing to sign up, so I did. I am now checking out whey products and seeing if they have the same effect. .....I have no objections to MLM, I am already a distributor of a number of products, but mainly for the purpose of attaining the discounts for my personal consumption. If a product is necessary for the healing, I don't care who sells it, I will buy it. In all honesty, I have found that most supplements can be eliminated from the diet once I have performed the energy work necessary to improve the body's assimilation of the food that it eats. I could teach you more about all of this if you are interested in learning. The introduction is free, if you are interested in learning the entire ball of wax, I charge a small fee. Let me know if you are interested. Blessings, Joan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 Mailing-List: list oxyplusonelist; contact oxyplus-owneronelist Delivered-mailing list oxyplusonelist List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:oxyplus-unsubscribeONElist> Reply-to: oxyplusonelist Subject: [oxyplus] Maggie's Journey From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> To the list, As many of you who have been reading my posts know, my stepdaughter, Margaret, (who wants to be called Maggie now), 20, was diagnosed with cancer several months ago, thus beginning an intense journey for both herself and her family. I fully expected that, given the belief systems of Maggie and her parents, her treatment would be chemotherapy. But what we all discovered, however, during the trek from oncologist to oncologist, and from digging and digging under what the oncologists were saying, was that the type of cancer she has, malignant fibrous histiocytoma, at the stage she has it, has NEVER been successfully treated by chemo. Yet, all the oncologists wanted to do it. At the high doses they would have used, that would have meant not only hair loss and nausea, but sores in the mouth, even more weakness, vulnerablilty to infection. We finally met a oncologist, a woman, who was willing to look Maggie in the eye and say, " If it were me, I wouldn't chemo. " Meanwhile I was researching, and finally ended up talking to a Dr. Wong in Hong Kong, who has a treatment which he claims is extraordinarily effective. My cancer treatment mentor, Gammill, called Dr. Wong himself, and also had a friend who lives in Hong Kong investigate. finally concluded that he liked the treatment very much. Exactly 12 days ago Maggie began the treatment, which consists of a number of pills a day. There have been subtle signs of change, but very subtle. She continues to lose weight; she continues to weaken. had another client who started the antineon treatment at about the same time. His tumor has gone down 1/3, and he is in less pain. But Maggie's cancer is a very rare and very deadly one, in a very advanced stage. Can we keep her alive long enough for the treatment to have a chance to work? Right now most food comes back up, in spite of trying several antinausea medications. (And, yes, have tried a number of suggestions you all have given me.) The next few weeks will, I believe, tell the story. So, please...those of you who pray -- send your prayers? Those of you who do Reiki, energy work, visualization -- send your energy? Those of you who simply feel compassion -- we could use that too. If you would like to email Maggie directly, just send the messages to me. Peace, health and hope, Vilik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 1999 Report Share Posted February 27, 1999 Hi Joan, I'm interested in knowing how much you charge for your class. I would like to learn if it's not too involved. I am a fast learner. Sincerely, Johanne Re: Maggie's Journey >In a message dated 2/26/99 4:38:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, Eat2Heal@... >writes: > ><< I have something to share that has come to me. Every since I heard Dusan >talk > about the sulfur in the cottage cheese and Omega 3 having a good effect in > helping heal cancer. I have been extremely curious as to how it works and I > remember garlic has sulfur and so does MSM and I wonder if they are as > effective as cottage cheese. > >....You are absolutely correct, Sulfur is a key ingredient. > > But while checking all this out and trying to learn and understand, I ran >into a product that is new and is derived from whey and is called GSH. ( A >very strong antioxidant amino acid combination) that the FDA in the US and >Canada has approved for use and can be prescribed by doctors. At first I >assumed it must not be affective if they approved it. But after reading the >research and what the Doctors are saying about it, I am very impressed. > >....I know what you mean when it comes to having faith in the FDA and >prescriptions. I also test that GSH is very good, on a scale of 1 - 10, it >scores a 9. > > But the reason I want to share this with you is because it has been effective > in not only helping with cancer and many other things, it seems to help with > the wasting effect. Maggie may benefit from this. > >....I see what you mean. Yes, cancer is just another imbalance in the body, >all disease is a result of an imbalance. The problem with supplements, they >will never provide the entire answer. There are other pieces of the puzzle >that must also be included in order to honestly, completely heal. > > But look at it and if you decide it is worth sharing, please do. They also > sell it like an MLM and I had to sign up as a distributor to get 25 percent > off. It cost nothing to sign up, so I did. I am now checking out whey > products and seeing if they have the same effect. > >....I have no objections to MLM, I am already a distributor of a number of >products, but mainly for the purpose of attaining the discounts for my >personal consumption. If a product is necessary for the healing, I don't care >who sells it, I will buy it. In all honesty, I have found that most >supplements can be eliminated from the diet once I have performed the energy >work necessary to improve the body's assimilation of the food that it eats. I >could teach you more about all of this if you are interested in learning. The >introduction is free, if you are interested in learning the entire ball of >wax, I charge a small fee. Let me know if you are interested. >Blessings, >Joan > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Internet stocks: hype or reality? >FT.com. The Financial Times online. >Click here to access more than 3,000 worldwide sources >http://offers./click/220/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 1999 Report Share Posted February 27, 1999 Please tell me more about this class! I've tried herbs and suppliments for other imbalances, some with success - others without success. Quite some time ago, a video series was being promoted that stated herbs and suppliments can be effective but not in the small amounts identified in the directions coming with them. At the time, I was new to the world of herbs and suppliments and, since these videos were extremely expensive, did not purchase them. Would love to hear more about your class. Blessings, Lin Re: Maggie's Journey >In a message dated 2/26/99 4:38:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, Eat2Heal@... >writes: > ><< I have something to share that has come to me. Every since I heard Dusan >talk > about the sulfur in the cottage cheese and Omega 3 having a good effect in > helping heal cancer. I have been extremely curious as to how it works and I > remember garlic has sulfur and so does MSM and I wonder if they are as > effective as cottage cheese. > >....You are absolutely correct, Sulfur is a key ingredient. > > But while checking all this out and trying to learn and understand, I ran >into a product that is new and is derived from whey and is called GSH. ( A >very strong antioxidant amino acid combination) that the FDA in the US and >Canada has approved for use and can be prescribed by doctors. At first I >assumed it must not be affective if they approved it. But after reading the >research and what the Doctors are saying about it, I am very impressed. > >....I know what you mean when it comes to having faith in the FDA and >prescriptions. I also test that GSH is very good, on a scale of 1 - 10, it >scores a 9. > > But the reason I want to share this with you is because it has been effective > in not only helping with cancer and many other things, it seems to help with > the wasting effect. Maggie may benefit from this. > >....I see what you mean. Yes, cancer is just another imbalance in the body, >all disease is a result of an imbalance. The problem with supplements, they >will never provide the entire answer. There are other pieces of the puzzle >that must also be included in order to honestly, completely heal. > > But look at it and if you decide it is worth sharing, please do. They also > sell it like an MLM and I had to sign up as a distributor to get 25 percent > off. It cost nothing to sign up, so I did. I am now checking out whey > products and seeing if they have the same effect. > >....I have no objections to MLM, I am already a distributor of a number of >products, but mainly for the purpose of attaining the discounts for my >personal consumption. If a product is necessary for the healing, I don't care >who sells it, I will buy it. In all honesty, I have found that most >supplements can be eliminated from the diet once I have performed the energy >work necessary to improve the body's assimilation of the food that it eats. I >could teach you more about all of this if you are interested in learning. The >introduction is free, if you are interested in learning the entire ball of >wax, I charge a small fee. Let me know if you are interested. >Blessings, >Joan > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Internet stocks: hype or reality? >FT.com. The Financial Times online. >Click here to access more than 3,000 worldwide sources >http://offers./click/220/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 1999 Report Share Posted February 27, 1999 Does anyone out there know about ritoxin as a treatment for lymphoma. My doctor has suggested I take the treatment and would like to speak with anyone who has done it. Re: Maggie's Journey >In a message dated 2/26/99 4:38:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, Eat2Heal@... >writes: > ><< I have something to share that has come to me. Every since I heard Dusan >talk > about the sulfur in the cottage cheese and Omega 3 having a good effect in > helping heal cancer. I have been extremely curious as to how it works and I > remember garlic has sulfur and so does MSM and I wonder if they are as > effective as cottage cheese. > >....You are absolutely correct, Sulfur is a key ingredient. > > But while checking all this out and trying to learn and understand, I ran >into a product that is new and is derived from whey and is called GSH. ( A >very strong antioxidant amino acid combination) that the FDA in the US and >Canada has approved for use and can be prescribed by doctors. At first I >assumed it must not be affective if they approved it. But after reading the >research and what the Doctors are saying about it, I am very impressed. > >....I know what you mean when it comes to having faith in the FDA and >prescriptions. I also test that GSH is very good, on a scale of 1 - 10, it >scores a 9. > > But the reason I want to share this with you is because it has been effective > in not only helping with cancer and many other things, it seems to help with > the wasting effect. Maggie may benefit from this. > >....I see what you mean. Yes, cancer is just another imbalance in the body, >all disease is a result of an imbalance. The problem with supplements, they >will never provide the entire answer. There are other pieces of the puzzle >that must also be included in order to honestly, completely heal. > > But look at it and if you decide it is worth sharing, please do. They also > sell it like an MLM and I had to sign up as a distributor to get 25 percent > off. It cost nothing to sign up, so I did. I am now checking out whey > products and seeing if they have the same effect. > >....I have no objections to MLM, I am already a distributor of a number of >products, but mainly for the purpose of attaining the discounts for my >personal consumption. If a product is necessary for the healing, I don't care >who sells it, I will buy it. In all honesty, I have found that most >supplements can be eliminated from the diet once I have performed the energy >work necessary to improve the body's assimilation of the food that it eats. I >could teach you more about all of this if you are interested in learning. The >introduction is free, if you are interested in learning the entire ball of >wax, I charge a small fee. Let me know if you are interested. >Blessings, >Joan > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Internet stocks: hype or reality? >FT.com. The Financial Times online. >Click here to access more than 3,000 worldwide sources >http://offers./click/220/0 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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