Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 [ ] Cansema and Alpha-Omega labs > >> > >> > >> >Alpha-Omega Labs was closed down by the FDA. They did so because > >of > >> >dishonesty in labeling and other similar transgressions. Cansema > >is > >> >now being made for Risingsun Health, which is working closely with > >> >the FDA to ensure their products meet the criteria for safety. > >Just > >> >search that name for Cansema tonic III, salve, etc. > >> > > >> > >> > >> [VERBATIM QUOTE-COPY from www.altcancer.com website] > >> > >> BUYER BEWARE and THE REAL STORY ABOUT ALPHA OMEGA LABS > >> > >> Several of our loyal customers in the United States alerted ALPHA > >> OMEGA LABS about improper conduct by an ex-distributor. When we > >were > >> still up and running, our North American Distributor was Risingsun > >> Health, aka bloodrootproducts.com, aka McAdam Health Enterprises. > >Mr. > >> McAdam never kept any stock; he would send his orders for us to > >fill > >> for him. Since the FDA raid there is no more products to sell…the > >FDA > >> took it all. Mr. McAdam claims that he destroyed all products he > >had > >> purchased from Alpha; however, he never received any products from > >> Alpha. > >> > >> Mr. McAdam's site still mirrors the Alpha Omega site almost > >> identically, using our product names, images and testimonials, > >even to > >> go so far to lift the exact wording and descriptions. We have > >gotten > >> dozens of complaints from customers who thought they were ordering > >an > >> Alpha Omega product and did not receive anything (even after their > >> credit card was charged) or they received an entirely different > >> formula than what they ordered. > >> > >> It has been stated on Mr. McAdam's web site > >> (www.bloodrootproducts.com) that Greg Caton isn't the original > >creator > >> of the Cansema line…this is FALSE. Greg Caton IS the creator of the > >> Cansema formula; however, he is not the " inventor " of black salve. > >> Black salve is an ancient formula that has been around for > >hundreds of > >> years. Greg took the ingredients and created his own formula, > >which he > >> called Cansema. Greg Caton is also the creator of the Herbal Veil 8 > >> formula. Greg created this formula and allowed Ross (who > >has > >> since deceased) to private label the formula. > >> > >> Mr. McAdam also mentions inaccuracies in ingredient labeling and > >> inconsistencies in the concentration of products. The only accused > >> inaccuracy that we are aware of is regarding the H3O. We purchased > >the > >> H3O product from a company in California to private label. We > >received > >> all labeling information from that company, including ingredient > >> listings. Although the H3O does test out analytically as 9.4% > >> sulfuric, it is actually a patented product that has been > >extensively > >> tested for safety and has OSHA's approval. It is no more corrosive > >> than water, and is not required to have special labeling when > >shipped. > >> The testing that is required for OSHA proved that it is non-caustic > >> and non-corrosive. We would like to think that the maker of H3O > >simply > >> misinformed us if the accusations of inconsistencies are true; > >> however, we have seen nothing but successful results in the use of > >the > >> H3O. > >> > >> Although Greg Caton is not the original formulator of CanSupport > >> lines, he did make the decision for the final formula which we > >private > >> labeled. However, Alpha Omega Labs never denied that we used herbal > >> products from outside vendors that were effective! In fact, we have > >> several products that are not our own (i.e. Old Amish Dewormer, > >> AquaMarine Life Force, and Gotas Drops, to name a few). Greg > >traveled > >> the world meeting with different scientists to find the most > >effective > >> herbal supplements, formulas and inventions. The Alpha Omega web > >site > >> lists all of Greg's discoveries. > >> > >> Our products have ALWAYS reflected the actual contents, > >ingredients, > >> proper protocols and warnings. > >> > >> If you are concerned with anything or have any questions, simply > >> contact us…unlike Mr. McAdam we answer the phone and respond to our > >> emails…we will answer any question that you have. > >> > >> Alpha Omega Labs > >> support@a... > >> (888) 220-6780 > >> > >> [END OF COPY-QUOTE] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 One last time: I could not get any information from Jade and AO. I can understand your strong defense of your friends. The rest of us have less to go on. I don't know AO's staff any better than I know Risingsun Health's staff. I have not ordered anything from Risingsun and I never said I did. However, I know that a person on was planning to order the liquid from there. If the person did so, perhaps we shall hear about that. No need to be overbearing about this. We can converse in a civil manner. ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Phinneas " <phinneas@...> Reply- < > Subject: Re: FALSE INFO >>>Re: [ ] Cansema and Alpha-Omega labs Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 03:31:11 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: phinneas@... Received: from n26.grp.scd. ([66.218.66.82]) by mc4-f27.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:29:26 -0700 Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n26.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2004 18:06:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 21236 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 18:06:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m10.grp.scd. with QMQP; 9 Apr 2004 18:06:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au) (211.29.132.56) by mta4.grp.scd. with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 18:06:15 -0000 Received: from Cansema (blaax9-a142.dialup.optusnet.com.au [203.164.126.142])by mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with SMTP id i39I6BB11842for < >; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 04:06:11 +1000 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFrvkpq41rbPAIgGy9bODX8 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-106033-11641-1081533977-charlesmt=hotmail.com@... X-Apparently- Message-ID: <000201c41e5d$6130dac0$8e7ea4cb@Cansema> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 211.29.132.56 Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Delivered-mailing list Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribe > Return-Path: sentto-106033-11641-1081533977-charlesmt=hotmail.com@... X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2004 19:29:26.0624 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8686600:01C41E68] [ ] Cansema and Alpha-Omega labs > >> > >> > >> >Alpha-Omega Labs was closed down by the FDA. They did so because > >of > >> >dishonesty in labeling and other similar transgressions. Cansema > >is > >> >now being made for Risingsun Health, which is working closely with > >> >the FDA to ensure their products meet the criteria for safety. > >Just > >> >search that name for Cansema tonic III, salve, etc. > >> > > >> > >> > >> [VERBATIM QUOTE-COPY from www.altcancer.com website] > >> > >> BUYER BEWARE and THE REAL STORY ABOUT ALPHA OMEGA LABS > >> > >> Several of our loyal customers in the United States alerted ALPHA > >> OMEGA LABS about improper conduct by an ex-distributor. When we > >were > >> still up and running, our North American Distributor was Risingsun > >> Health, aka bloodrootproducts.com, aka McAdam Health Enterprises. > >Mr. > >> McAdam never kept any stock; he would send his orders for us to > >fill > >> for him. Since the FDA raid there is no more products to sell…the > >FDA > >> took it all. Mr. McAdam claims that he destroyed all products he > >had > >> purchased from Alpha; however, he never received any products from > >> Alpha. > >> > >> Mr. McAdam's site still mirrors the Alpha Omega site almost > >> identically, using our product names, images and testimonials, > >even to > >> go so far to lift the exact wording and descriptions. We have > >gotten > >> dozens of complaints from customers who thought they were ordering > >an > >> Alpha Omega product and did not receive anything (even after their > >> credit card was charged) or they received an entirely different > >> formula than what they ordered. > >> > >> It has been stated on Mr. McAdam's web site > >> (www.bloodrootproducts.com) that Greg Caton isn't the original > >creator > >> of the Cansema line…this is FALSE. Greg Caton IS the creator of the > >> Cansema formula; however, he is not the " inventor " of black salve. > >> Black salve is an ancient formula that has been around for > >hundreds of > >> years. Greg took the ingredients and created his own formula, > >which he > >> called Cansema. Greg Caton is also the creator of the Herbal Veil 8 > >> formula. Greg created this formula and allowed Ross (who > >has > >> since deceased) to private label the formula. > >> > >> Mr. McAdam also mentions inaccuracies in ingredient labeling and > >> inconsistencies in the concentration of products. The only accused > >> inaccuracy that we are aware of is regarding the H3O. We purchased > >the > >> H3O product from a company in California to private label. We > >received > >> all labeling information from that company, including ingredient > >> listings. Although the H3O does test out analytically as 9.4% > >> sulfuric, it is actually a patented product that has been > >extensively > >> tested for safety and has OSHA's approval. It is no more corrosive > >> than water, and is not required to have special labeling when > >shipped. > >> The testing that is required for OSHA proved that it is non-caustic > >> and non-corrosive. We would like to think that the maker of H3O > >simply > >> misinformed us if the accusations of inconsistencies are true; > >> however, we have seen nothing but successful results in the use of > >the > >> H3O. > >> > >> Although Greg Caton is not the original formulator of CanSupport > >> lines, he did make the decision for the final formula which we > >private > >> labeled. However, Alpha Omega Labs never denied that we used herbal > >> products from outside vendors that were effective! In fact, we have > >> several products that are not our own (i.e. Old Amish Dewormer, > >> AquaMarine Life Force, and Gotas Drops, to name a few). Greg > >traveled > >> the world meeting with different scientists to find the most > >effective > >> herbal supplements, formulas and inventions. The Alpha Omega web > >site > >> lists all of Greg's discoveries. > >> > >> Our products have ALWAYS reflected the actual contents, > >ingredients, > >> proper protocols and warnings. > >> > >> If you are concerned with anything or have any questions, simply > >> contact us…unlike Mr. McAdam we answer the phone and respond to our > >> emails…we will answer any question that you have. > >> > >> Alpha Omega Labs > >> support@a... > >> (888) 220-6780 > >> > >> [END OF COPY-QUOTE] > > Y'all have a real nice day - Ya hear? _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Phinaeus Risingsun has said that they have contracted with suppliers who will furnish the products. They do not claim to have any AO products on hand. ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Phinneas " <phinneas@...> Reply- " Cancercured Forum " < > Subject: FALSE INFO >>>Re: [ ] Cansema and Alpha-Omega labs Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 20:30:36 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: phinneas@... Received: from n24.grp.scd. ([66.218.66.80]) by mc10-f16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:51:20 -0700 Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n24.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2004 14:53:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 26440 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2004 11:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m7.grp.scd. with QMQP; 8 Apr 2004 11:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au) (211.29.132.167) by mta1.grp.scd. with SMTP; 8 Apr 2004 11:16:03 -0000 Received: from Cansema (blaax10-b077.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.220.77])by mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with SMTP id i38BE4w07519for < >; Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:14:04 +1000 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFq/1XB4PB4iMpoBah0MaxZ X-eGroups-Return: sentto-106033-11635-1081436007-charlesmt=hotmail.com@... X-Apparently- Message-ID: <000201c41d5a$a5476c00$4ddc8ec6@Cansema> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 211.29.132.167 Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Delivered-mailing list Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribe > Return-Path: sentto-106033-11635-1081436007-charlesmt=hotmail.com@... X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2004 22:51:20.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[028786F0:01C41DBC] Hello " mturn " and forum list, " " , unfortunately you have done a dis-service to all who have read your post (below), The information that you posted is NOT CORRECT ... hope no one will lose their money because of your (hopefully unintentional) mis-information. In fact, if anyone from this forum has sent money or credit card details to ***Risingsun Health*** it could be a very good idea to CANCEL payment ASAP. Why? Please read the copy-pasted information from the CANSEMA web-site, which is below the post sent by charlesmturn <charlesmt@...> For those concerned, please verify this on Alpha Omega Labs Cansema web-site on www.altcancer.com Regards, Phinneas [ ] Cansema and Alpha-Omega labs >Alpha-Omega Labs was closed down by the FDA. They did so because of >dishonesty in labeling and other similar transgressions. Cansema is >now being made for Risingsun Health, which is working closely with >the FDA to ensure their products meet the criteria for safety. Just >search that name for Cansema tonic III, salve, etc. > [VERBATIM QUOTE-COPY from www.altcancer.com website] BUYER BEWARE and THE REAL STORY ABOUT ALPHA OMEGA LABS Several of our loyal customers in the United States alerted ALPHA OMEGA LABS about improper conduct by an ex-distributor. When we were still up and running, our North American Distributor was Risingsun Health, aka bloodrootproducts.com, aka McAdam Health Enterprises. Mr. McAdam never kept any stock; he would send his orders for us to fill for him. Since the FDA raid there is no more products to sell…the FDA took it all. Mr. McAdam claims that he destroyed all products he had purchased from Alpha; however, he never received any products from Alpha. Mr. McAdam's site still mirrors the Alpha Omega site almost identically, using our product names, images and testimonials, even to go so far to lift the exact wording and descriptions. We have gotten dozens of complaints from customers who thought they were ordering an Alpha Omega product and did not receive anything (even after their credit card was charged) or they received an entirely different formula than what they ordered. It has been stated on Mr. McAdam's web site (www.bloodrootproducts.com) that Greg Caton isn't the original creator of the Cansema line…this is FALSE. Greg Caton IS the creator of the Cansema formula; however, he is not the " inventor " of black salve. Black salve is an ancient formula that has been around for hundreds of years. Greg took the ingredients and created his own formula, which he called Cansema. Greg Caton is also the creator of the Herbal Veil 8 formula. Greg created this formula and allowed Ross (who has since deceased) to private label the formula. Mr. McAdam also mentions inaccuracies in ingredient labeling and inconsistencies in the concentration of products. The only accused inaccuracy that we are aware of is regarding the H3O. We purchased the H3O product from a company in California to private label. We received all labeling information from that company, including ingredient listings. Although the H3O does test out analytically as 9.4% sulfuric, it is actually a patented product that has been extensively tested for safety and has OSHA's approval. It is no more corrosive than water, and is not required to have special labeling when shipped. The testing that is required for OSHA proved that it is non-caustic and non-corrosive. We would like to think that the maker of H3O simply misinformed us if the accusations of inconsistencies are true; however, we have seen nothing but successful results in the use of the H3O. Although Greg Caton is not the original formulator of CanSupport lines, he did make the decision for the final formula which we private labeled. However, Alpha Omega Labs never denied that we used herbal products from outside vendors that were effective! In fact, we have several products that are not our own (i.e. Old Amish Dewormer, AquaMarine Life Force, and Gotas Drops, to name a few). Greg traveled the world meeting with different scientists to find the most effective herbal supplements, formulas and inventions. The Alpha Omega web site lists all of Greg's discoveries. Our products have ALWAYS reflected the actual contents, ingredients, proper protocols and warnings. If you are concerned with anything or have any questions, simply contact us…unlike Mr. McAdam we answer the phone and respond to our emails…we will answer any question that you have. Alpha Omega Labs support@... (888) 220-6780 [END OF COPY-QUOTE] Y'all have a real nice day - Ya hear? _________________________________________________________________ Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health & Wellness for information and advice. http://gerd.msn.com/default.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I haven't logged in for about a week and was really taken aback by the tone of Phinnea's replies to the information about cansema being available at Risingsun labs. If it is true that they are making false claims and riping off the public thank you for letting us know, but there is no need for the rudeness directed at another member of this group who was trying to help out by posting info about rising sun's website. Like , we had been trying to find a supplier of cansema tonic ever since Alpha Omega labs was shut down and were thankful for his information. Unfortunately when we contacted risingsun with a few questions regarding the use of the tonic and salve they did not get back to us. In light of the further information posted by Phinneas and risingsun's lack of response to my inquiry, we won't be ordering from this company. > One last time: I could not get any information from Jade and AO. I can > understand your strong defense of your friends. The rest of us have less to > go on. I don't know AO's staff any better than I know Risingsun Health's > staff. I have not ordered anything from Risingsun and I never said I did. > However, I know that a person on was planning to order the > liquid from there. If the person did so, perhaps we shall hear about that. > No need to be overbearing about this. We can converse in a civil manner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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