Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 Thank you. The family is getting in touch with the Navarro's - hopefully today or tomorrow. I don't have the contact info for the Horwin's, but I will forward the story to the family and try to get contact info for them. If anyone has similar stories that they can send me info on, I will be compiling this info. Or, if there is already a website that has this info on it, please let me know so I can have them add their story as it unfolds. Melinda [ ] Need more help for family with 3 1/2 yr old leukemia patient - Trying to avoid chemo > Hello, > > Talk to and visit Jim and Donna Navarro's website. > They have been fighting for about a year and a half to > give their child antineoplastons, which has had very > good results with brain cancer in children. The FDA > has refused. They demand that must undergo > chemotherapy and radiation treatment first. The side > effects from chemotherapy and radiation are > particularly appalling for brain cancer in young > children, as is life expectency. > > http://www.cancerbusters.com/ > > Also talk to the Horwins who underwent the same > nightmare with their child, . Read an > interview with them here > > http://naturalhealthline.com/newsletter/1july00/horwins.htm#jump > > Good luck. Gavin. > > > --- Melinda Wiman <wiman@...> wrote: > > Child is in Tulsa OK. Diagnosis is all - acute > > lymphocytic leukemia. Doctors want to start chemo > > today. Gleevec apparently won't work. Social workers > > have been called in. Mother does not want to even > > start the chemo at all. > > > > Need a lawyer who can intervene. Anyone know any > > good ones who might be interested in taking on this > > family's plight. > > > > So far we have only found two clinics that will > > treat her at her age. Dr. Edelson in GA and IBC in > > Mexico. Need more suggestions - hard to find clinics > > that will treat because of her age. Will probably > > need to be a clinic in the US and not Mexico. > > > > Also need the names of any children with all that > > have been treated using alternative approaches so we > > can talk to their parents. Need as many on this list > > as we can. > > > > Any radio talk show host contact info as well would > > be helpful so we can get the word out and hopefully > > attract some attention to her cause. > > > > Pass the message on to any other forums - we are > > hoping to find an attorney fast. > > > > Thank you all again, > > Melinda Wiman > > www.cancure.org > > Cancer Cure Foundation > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 Hello, There are at least two main dangers here for people seeking to control their choice of remedies for this 3 1/2 year old child. One is that of " Jurisdiction " where the local Social workers can come in and take your child away without your consent. This leads to the second danger which is that the FDA and the Social Workers will force your child to undergo Chemotherapy ( and other treatments) without your consent again. You have no recourse in this case except to hope your child will survve the chemo, drugs, possibly surgery and any other allopathic treatment which your (???) doctors prescribe for the child. Chemotherapy patients survive less than 10% (See Dr. Mendolson, M.D., Dissent in Medicine). Have no doubts...the Medical Profession plays " Hardball " in these cases, and doesn`t give a hoot about " parental rights or choice. " There is only one...No amount of talk shows or public forums including Congress will be effective. Time is of the essence. If were I would follow in a similar situation here is my course of action: 1. I would talk to a good lawyer and ask him what happens if I were to leave that jurisdiction where my child resides. This would be to avoid immediate court subpoenas, forced orders, etc., while I would have a chance to " discover my rights, if any " . Forced legal action will still follow me anywhere in the USA. As an example and precedent, " The parents of Little Navarro tried this and were located in Texas ( having left their home in Arizona) and the Federal Law prevailed. I believe they tried Internet help, talk shows, letters and pleas to the FDA, the White House, Congress and doctors, all to no avail. The boy was forced to undergo Chemotherapy, drugs, and radiation ( I`m not sure about surgery) and when the doctors finished with him, he was listless and dying. Fortunately, at this stage the FDA allowed Dr. Byrzinski (sp) and his staff to treat the boy in the very hospital where the allopaths had given him devastating treatment and left him as " hopeless. " To their great surprise, the child`s immune system responded to this " unapproved Byrsinski treatment " , and the boy came around and is alive today, full of toxins and poisons, but with a chance to survive at least. What are his chances? A lot better than with the allopaths, but less than if the allopaths had left him alo! ne (my opinion). Pls note that DR. Byrsinski is an M.D. and an advance thinker! If I were in a similar dire situation, I would telephone Dr. Johanna Budwig, Ph.D. in Bio-Chemistry, a Ph.D. in the Natural Sciences, and the owner of a very successful clinic in Germany, and a Seven time Nobel Prize Nominee. She is extremely knowledgeable and has saved countless people from Death`s doorstep. I would ask her questions and than make up my mind what to do. For the record, her contact data is: Dr. Johanna Budwig, Ph.D./ Hegelstrasse 3, 72250 Freundenstadt-Dietersweiler, Germany. Tel:ex-USA- 49- (7441) 7667/ Fax:49 (7441) 85125. I would have a right to second or third,etc. opinions while time is available. Based on all my research information, then I and my family would choose the course which we would want to follow. The way is unchartered... But I cannot advise you on what to do. That is up to you. I am not a medical doctor and am not giving medical advice. These are strictly my opinions and what I would do if my child faced forced action by Social workers, FDA, or any other " legal or illegal entity. " The Congress has to change this law and will be forced to do it one day but not in this immediate future. Good luck on your research, phone calls, consultation and treatments whatever you choose, allopathic, complementary, or alternative. We will pray for your lovely child. Again, good luck and God Bless, Mike Cinelli ============================================================== >Child is in Tulsa OK. Diagnosis is all - acute lymphocytic leukemia. Doctors want to start chemo today. Gleevec apparently won't work. Social workers have been called in. Mother does not want to even start the chemo at all. > >Need a lawyer who can intervene. Anyone know any good ones who might be interested in taking on this family's plight. > >So far we have only found two clinics that will treat her at her age. Dr. Edelson in GA and IBC in Mexico. Need more suggestions - hard to find clinics that will treat because of her age. Will probably need to be a clinic in the US and not Mexico. > >Also need the names of any children with all that have been treated using alternative approaches so we can talk to their parents. Need as many on this list as we can. > >Any radio talk show host contact info as well would be helpful so we can get the word out and hopefully attract some attention to her cause. > >Pass the message on to any other forums - we are hoping to find an attorney fast. > >Thank you all again, >Melinda Wiman >www.cancure.org >Cancer Cure Foundation > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 Dr. Burzynski once had a website of little Christie (?). I don't know why, but all the helpful information he had on his site is now gone. He once had a comprehensive site with all the dates and actions the FDA took against him, including his imprisonment. His crime was curing people of cancer without FDA's approval. [same crime that Dr. Hulda was imprisoned for at age 70.] http://www.cancermed.com Story of Little Christie I still remember Christies' face on Burzynski's webwite. The parents of Christie put that page up as a memorial to their daughter. The parents first brought Christie to the University of California Medical Center. When the parents were told of the horrible side effects of radiation and chemotherapy, they asked the doctors if there were ANY OTHER TREATMENT for cancer. The oncologists lied and said NO, even though they knew about Burzynski's successes with brain cancer. But their allegiance was to the FDA's rules, and they prescribed only chemo and radiation. Doctors today have to choose to either follow man's authority (chemotherapy, radiation), or to follow God's authority (paraphrased): Do to others what you want others to do to you. Well, thinking they had no choice, poor Christie was burned by the heavy radiation dose. She had brain damage, was blind, etc. Just looking at her picture made you want to cry. She was pretty, but you could see there was some neurological damage done to this beautiful child. Christie's parents eventually learned of Burzynski's Clinic and went to him. Dr. Burzynski cured Christie OF THE BRAIN CANCER....no trace of the cancer was left. But...she did DIED OF ALL THE RADS OF RADIATION...it damaged her organs and nerves beyond repair. WORLD CONTROL OF MEDICAL TREATMENT--IT'S DANGER Please try to STOP the FAST TRACK in Congress. It will give the president special powers to speed up a world government. The danger is this. The ultimate orders for chemotherapy, radiation, etc. comes NOT from the FDA, but from the European Union. Hammel attended a meeting, and said the FDA went against Congress' orders, and promised to harmonize (give up our sovereignty) our natural food medicines to theirs standards. http://www.iahf.com A one-world government eventually means that ALL NATIONS will be POWERLESS to give their input on any laws. Only a few select men will make the decisions for the world. This world government is prophecied to be headed by an anti-Christ prophecied in Revelations (last book of the Bible). Germany's vitamin C is 25 mg. without prescription---25 mg CAN NOT CURE CANCER. In essence, this is a form of " population control " or eugenics. Such low doses will make us susceptible to diseases such as cancer. Right now, the World Bank, etc. plan to take out Dr. Kreb's vitamin B17, the Cancer Vitamin. But Vitamin B17 kills single cancer cells before a lump forms. When this happens, third world countries who depends on the Cassava Plant for their staple food will increase their cancer rates dramatically. -------------------------------------------------------------------- >Thank you. The family is getting in touch with the Navarro's - hopefully >today or tomorrow. I don't have the contact info for the Horwin's, but I >will forward the story to the family and try to get contact info for them. > >If anyone has similar stories that they can send me info on, I will be >compiling this info. Or, if there is already a website that has this info on >it, please let me know so I can have them add their story as it unfolds. > >Melinda > > > [ ] Need more help for family with 3 1/2 yr old leukemia >patient - Trying to avoid chemo > > >> Hello, >> >> Talk to and visit Jim and Donna Navarro's website. >> They have been fighting for about a year and a half to >> give their child antineoplastons, which has had very >> good results with brain cancer in children. The FDA >> has refused. They demand that must undergo >> chemotherapy and radiation treatment first. The side >> effects from chemotherapy and radiation are >> particularly appalling for brain cancer in young >> children, as is life expectency. >> >> http://www.cancerbusters.com/ >> >> Also talk to the Horwins who underwent the same >> nightmare with their child, . Read an >> interview with them here >> >> http://naturalhealthline.com/newsletter/1july00/horwins.htm#jump >> >> Good luck. Gavin. >> >> >> --- Melinda Wiman <wiman@...> wrote: >> > Child is in Tulsa OK. Diagnosis is all - acute >> > lymphocytic leukemia. Doctors want to start chemo >> > today. Gleevec apparently won't work. Social workers >> > have been called in. Mother does not want to even >> > start the chemo at all. >> > >> > Need a lawyer who can intervene. Anyone know any >> > good ones who might be interested in taking on this >> > family's plight. >> > >> > So far we have only found two clinics that will >> > treat her at her age. Dr. Edelson in GA and IBC in >> > Mexico. Need more suggestions - hard to find clinics >> > that will treat because of her age. Will probably >> > need to be a clinic in the US and not Mexico. >> > >> > Also need the names of any children with all that >> > have been treated using alternative approaches so we >> > can talk to their parents. Need as many on this list >> > as we can. >> > >> > Any radio talk show host contact info as well would >> > be helpful so we can get the word out and hopefully >> > attract some attention to her cause. >> > >> > Pass the message on to any other forums - we are >> > hoping to find an attorney fast. >> > >> > Thank you all again, >> > Melinda Wiman >> > www.cancure.org >> > Cancer Cure Foundation >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been >> > removed] >> > >> > >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Dear Melinda, Maybe you could tell the parents of this child to read the story of Shifra (with ALL). If you want I could bring them in contact with the doctor who treats Shifra or maybe her parents. Shhifra lives now already four years lonmger as expected though a definite cure seems impossible. But if the parents could bring their child in remission, with Shifra this happened now seven times with a mixed treatment of a small dosis dexamethason, vincristine and a lot of nutrional supplements (see her story at my site whre we describe the whole treatment) than maybe there is a chance their child can follow a immuneprogram in a special hospital in Minneapolis ( Centre) where Robin another child with ALL is treated now. If you want I can give you the mailadres from the parents of Shifra but only for these parents, so if they are interested please I will send it to them privatly. Gr. Kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Need more help for family with 3 1/2 yr old leukemia patient - Trying to avoid chemo Child is in Tulsa OK. Diagnosis is all - acute lymphocytic leukemia. Doctors want to start chemo today. Gleevec apparently won't work. Social workers have been called in. Mother does not want to even start the chemo at all. Need a lawyer who can intervene. Anyone know any good ones who might be interested in taking on this family's plight. So far we have only found two clinics that will treat her at her age. Dr. Edelson in GA and IBC in Mexico. Need more suggestions - hard to find clinics that will treat because of her age. Will probably need to be a clinic in the US and not Mexico. Also need the names of any children with all that have been treated using alternative approaches so we can talk to their parents. Need as many on this list as we can. Any radio talk show host contact info as well would be helpful so we can get the word out and hopefully attract some attention to her cause. Pass the message on to any other forums - we are hoping to find an attorney fast. Thank you all again, Melinda Wiman www.cancure.org Cancer Cure Foundation Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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