Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Linus ing Institute - Micronutrient Information Center- http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts.html Includes bioavailablity data from published studies. ~ Karl Patients Against Lymphoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 The Linus ing Institute was started by Linus ing and has been funded through a variety of sources, most notable of which is the NIH. Not surprisingly, over the years, they have leaned toward results that the NIH (and other government agencies) endorse or support. Sad but true. I don't think there is any 'honest' research out there in the vitamin/supplement world other than what individual doctors are doing in their practices. The thing is, ANY time you read a research document/paper/results, you have to question it. Even if you agree with the results. Why? Research takes money. Someone has to be willing to fund the research. And guess what, the people coughing up the money can and do put restrictions on the research. They own the data, not the people doing the research. So if the research doesn't say what they want it to say, they can just stop the study and mothball the results and there's that. Not to say that all research is done that way but that it is widespread and that some companies have fewer qualms about squelching results they don't like than others so you have to be a skeptic to read research and you have to question, "Who paid for this study?" "Why did they pay for it?" "Do the results benefit them in some way?" "If so, how?" "If not, why did they let the study be published?" Some places do publish but honestly, Linus ing is just like every other research group. They are NOT independent and they are dependent on funding sources and no matter how much they think they are staying in integrity, they probably are not. I live about 20 minutes from the institute. You can find more info on their funding here: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/resagenda/about.html and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_ing_Institute A separate group at OSU did research on dental amalgams and found (not surprisingly since the research was funded by the American Dental Association) that they were just fine. This has become the rallying cry of the dentists around town when anyone questions them. Our own school says they are fine. When I told my dentist how the research works he looked like I had stabbed him in the heart. What? OSU spinning the results? Um....yeah, the hand is feeding them just like all the rest and no university want's to die..... There's an old song, "Money makes the world go round....." Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 There are a lot of things about medical research that undermine its credibility. Many studies of drug "safety" only run 6 weeks, after which NO follow-up is done. Now, if you had any sort of weird side effects & needed a specialist, you often couldn't even get an APPOINTMENT within 6 weeks. And many side effects only develop over long-term usage. Cancer, for example, often takes YEARS to develop. So if a new drug caused a big bump in cancer rates, the 6 weeks would NEVER catch it.The more you read about the "system," the harder it gets to TRUST the system.AnneOn Sep 7, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Tressler wrote: The Linus ing Institute was started by Linus ing and has been funded through a variety of sources, most notable of which is the NIH. Not surprisingly, over the years, they have leaned toward results that the NIH (and other government agencies) endorse or support. Sad but true. I don't think there is any 'honest' research out there in the vitamin/supplement world other than what individual doctors are doing in their practices. The thing is, ANY time you read a research document/paper/results, you have to question it. Even if you agree with the results. Why? Research takes money. Someone has to be willing to fund the research. And guess what, the people coughing up the money can and do put restrictions on the research. They own the data, not the people doing the research. So if the research doesn't say what they want it to say, they can just stop the study and mothball the results and there's that. Not to say that all research is done that way but that it is widespread and that some companies have fewer qualms about squelching results they don't like than others so you have to be a skeptic to read research and you have to question, "Who paid for this study?" "Why did they pay for it?" "Do the results benefit them in some way?" "If so, how?" "If not, why did they let the study be published?" Some places do publish but honestly, Linus ing is just like every other research group. They are NOT independent and they are dependent on funding sources and no matter how much they think they are staying in integrity, they probably are not. I live about 20 minutes from the institute. You can find more info on their funding here: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/resagenda/about.html and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_ing_Institute A separate group at OSU did research on dental amalgams and found (not surprisingly since the research was funded by the American Dental Association) that they were just fine. This has become the rallying cry of the dentists around town when anyone questions them. Our own school says they are fine. When I told my dentist how the research works he looked like I had stabbed him in the heart. What? OSU spinning the results? Um....yeah, the hand is feeding them just like all the rest and no university want's to die..... There's an old song, "Money makes the world go round....." Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Thanks for the information, . I sometimes will read the ing materials for physiology information, but I don't pay attention to their dosage and application information. And this is why. -- At 11:54 AM 9/7/2010, you wrote: >The Linus ing Institute was started by Linus ing and has been >funded through a variety of sources, most notable of which is the >NIH. Not surprisingly, over the years, they have leaned toward results >that the NIH (and other government agencies) endorse or support. Sad but >true. I don't think there is any 'honest' research out there in the >vitamin/supplement world other than what individual doctors are doing in >their practices. > >The thing is, ANY time you read a research document/paper/results, you >have to question it. Even if you agree with the results. Why? Research >takes money. Someone has to be willing to fund the research. And guess >what, the people coughing up the money can and do put restrictions on the >research. They own the data, not the people doing the research. So if >the research doesn't say what they want it to say, they can just stop the >study and mothball the results and there's that. > >Not to say that all research is done that way but that it is widespread >and that some companies have fewer qualms about squelching results they >don't like than others so you have to be a skeptic to read research and >you have to question, " Who paid for this study? " " Why did they pay for >it? " " Do the results benefit them in some way? " " If so, how? " " If not, >why did they let the study be published? " > >Some places do publish but honestly, Linus ing is just like every >other research group. They are NOT independent and they are dependent on >funding sources and no matter how much they think they are staying in >integrity, they probably are not. > >I live about 20 minutes from the institute. You can find more info on >their funding >here: ><http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/resagenda/about.html>http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/res\ agenda/about.html >and >here: ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_ing_Institute>http://en.wikipedia.org/w\ iki/Linus_ing_Institute > >A separate group at OSU did research on dental amalgams and found (not >surprisingly since the research was funded by the American Dental >Association) that they were just fine. This has become the rallying cry >of the dentists around town when anyone questions them. Our own school >says they are fine. When I told my dentist how the research works he >looked like I had stabbed him in the heart. What? OSU spinning the >results? Um....yeah, the hand is feeding them just like all the rest and >no university want's to die..... > >There's an old song, " Money makes the world go round..... " > > Tressler >Healthy Transitions Life Coaching >541-791-1464 > >Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or >shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com). ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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