Re: Which alternative treatment to choose?

[Guest guest]

From: " jackad2000 " <jackad2000@...>

> There are SO MANY alternative treatments avaiable.

> I have extensive stage (metasticized) small-cell lung cancer. I am

> considering the treatments listed below:

>

> IP-6 + inositol

> Flax oil + cottage cheese

> Cesium chloride

> Paw paw

> Cancell (Cantron) or Protocell

I think IP6/inositol's the least effective. The rest are often very

effective. Cesium's the least safe and best done under medical supervision

if possible.

[Guest guest]

Protocel is awesome.

Call Tony Bell and get his opinion on this.

His brother had this and recovered within 7 months.

Tony Bell 330-688-3147

----- Original Message -----

From: jackad2000

Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:02 PM

There are SO MANY alternative treatments avaiable.

I have extensive stage (metasticized) small-cell lung cancer. I am

considering the treatments listed below:

IP-6 + inositol

Flax oil + cottage cheese

Cesium chloride

Paw paw

Cancell (Cantron) or Protocell

Can you help me choose?

Thank you.

Jack Adler

[Guest guest]

Jack,

Cocktails work best. Hit that cancer from every direction. Do them all.

Be sure to research out any conflicts. I think Paw Paw may conflict with

something, can't remember what now. I take over 50 supplements, do flax

oil/cottage cheese and will add the Gerson Therapy as soon as I am off

chemo.

Do everything.

Alternatively there is a school of thought which states it is best to pick

one protocol and stick with just that one. If you go that route you should

look at Gerson, Rath and Budwig among others.

But just taking one or two supplements is not enough.

Syd

>From: " jackad2000 "

>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005

>>There are SO MANY alternative treatments avaiable.

>I have extensive stage (metasticized) small-cell lung cancer. I am

>considering the treatments listed below:

>>IP-6 + inositol

>Flax oil + cottage cheese

>Cesium chloride

>Paw paw

>Cancell (Cantron) or Protocell

>>Can you help me choose?

>>Thank you. >Jack Adler

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had read about Protocel before because my dad has small-cell lung cancer but I

also read that it is usually not recommended for lung cancers because it could

cause congestion in the lungs.

Do you know what formula would be recommended? I noticed there were two. Also,

where is the best place to purchase this if it is okay for my dad? Does Tony

Bell sell Protocel? Is this the same as Cancell or is one preferred over the

other?

From: Johanne Wayne

Sent: 6/28/2005

Protocel is awesome.

Call Tony Bell and get his opinion on this.

His brother had this and recovered within 7 months.

Tony Bell 330-688-3147

[Guest guest]

It is the same as Cancell. Tony Bell does not sell Protocel. Renewal and

Wellness does. The Formula 50 is best.

Yes, I have read this too that Protocel does not work well for this type of

cancer. I have no idea why this kind of lie is circulating around. I'm sure for

financial reasons. This is not multi-level. It is real.

I have been successfully managing a brain tumor for 16 years now. I am 40 years

old and never have succombed to radiation or chemo. I did some parlodel therapy

years ago for about 5 years but when they asked about gamma knife and chemo, I

refused. That was 11 years ago and here I am today. I have been on Protocel for

1 year and got rid of a large quantity of mucous accumulation (that turns into

tumors if not addressed). I homeschool our four children 11-15 years old and am

a licensed nutritionist that deal with terminal illness and some chronic. No, I

don't counsel for now because the children are too busy entering highschool and

accelerating in piano.

Call Tony Bell and hear what he has to say. He cannot sell you the Protocel but

testimony is what this is all about.

May God bless your efforts.

Johanne

Re: [ ] Which alternative treatment to choose?

I had read about Protocel before because my dad has small-cell lung cancer but

I also read that it is usually not recommended for lung cancers because it could

cause congestion in the lungs.

Do you know what formula would be recommended? I noticed there were two.

Also, where is the best place to purchase this if it is okay for my dad? Does

Tony Bell sell Protocel? Is this the same as Cancell or is one preferred over

the other?

From: Johanne Wayne

Sent: 6/28/2005

Protocel is awesome.

Call Tony Bell and get his opinion on this.

His brother had this and recovered within 7 months.

Tony Bell 330-688-3147

[Guest guest]

Syd -

What do you know of the Essiac tea? Though they have

not confirmed it yet I believe my father probably has

liver cancer. Does anyone have experience with this

tea and it's successes or failures?

--- Syd Monk <syd_monk@...> wrote:

> Jack,

> Cocktails work best. Hit that cancer from every

> direction. Do them all.

> Be sure to research out any conflicts. I think Paw

> Paw may conflict with

> something, can't remember what now. I take over 50

> supplements, do flax

> oil/cottage cheese and will add the Gerson Therapy

> as soon as I am off

> chemo.

> Do everything.

> Alternatively there is a school of thought which

> states it is best to pick

> one protocol and stick with just that one. If you

> go that route you should

> look at Gerson, Rath and Budwig among others.

>

> But just taking one or two supplements is not

> enough. > Syd

>

> >From: " jackad2000 "

> >Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005

>

> >>There are SO MANY alternative treatments avaiable.

> >I have extensive stage (metasticized) small-cell

> lung cancer. I am

> >considering the treatments listed below:

> >>IP-6 + inositol

> >Flax oil + cottage cheese

> >Cesium chloride

> >Paw paw

> >Cancell (Cantron) or Protocell

>

> >>Can you help me choose?

> >>Thank you. >Jack Adler

[Guest guest]

> There are SO MANY alternative treatments avaiable.

> I have extensive stage (metasticized) small-cell lung cancer. I am

> considering the treatments listed below:

> > IP-6 + inositol

> Flax oil + cottage cheese

> Cesium chloride

> Paw paw

> Cancell (Cantron) or Protocell

> > Can you help me choose?

> Thank you. > Jack Adler

Jack,

You might want to do a set of therapies. Nobody puts all their eggs

in one basket, and you don't know which of the therapies would be the

most effective in your particular case.

I can tell you that " high pH therapy " is correctly done with cesium

chloride, ozone, potassium, magnesium and calcium, and supportive

nutrition, not just cesium chloride. Cesium chloride is nauseating to

most people, so if you're prone to upset stomach you may not be able

to do this one.

Therapies work in widely different ways. Take Transfer Factor, an

immune system booster. You might know that natural killer cells are

the ones that eat cancer cells, and these cells require no training

to do that. You mention IP-6, which increses their activity 43%.

T4Life Transfer Factor Advanced Formula has been shown by independent

research to increase the activity of natural killer cells by 283% in

48 hours. This is not even approached by a wide margin by other

natural killer cell increasers.

Another incarnation, 4Life Transfer Factor Plus Advanced Formula, was

found to increase them by 437% in 48 hours. Here's the graph:

http://ok.my4life.com/layout/005/images/news_screenshot.jpg

But IP-6 has other attributes.

During my own investigation I turned up information about a blind

study conducted by Dr. Anatoli Vorobiev, Head of Immunology, at the

Russian Academy of Medical Science, in which cancer containing cells

were subjected to cytotoxicity testing. Samples containing 4Life

Transfer Factor from cow and egg sources were tested individually and

in blended forms for incubation periods of 24 and 48 hours to

determine the most beneficial combination and activation time. The

K562 cancer cell kill rate was 97% in an in-vitro experiment;

rsearchers reported this may represent a minimal value as essentially

there were no cancer cells left intact in less than three days.

Though test tube studies don't have a direct correlation to real

life, Giancarlo Pizza's work with humans, described by Ralph Moss in

the March 2004 Integrated Cancer Therapy journal, resulted in a five-

year recurrence rate of just 7.3 percent, while controls saw 69.8

percent recurrence. Nobody wants to sacrifice their control groups

for the sake of further blind study, so for supportive information we

can refer to non-blind compiled anecdotal reports in Transfer Factor

Chronicles volume II, by R. Hennan. This would be part of the " new

news " .

In old news, according to cancer researcher Ralph Moss, Hugh

Fudenberg M.D. was using the component on cancer as early as 1970,

and he recently reviewed the results in a peer-reviewed medical

paper. While the outcome in breast cancer were rather disappointing

(because, he feels, of incomplete knowledge of how to best give the

treatment), a recent test in highly malignant osteosarcoma (bone

cancer), was promising. Seven control patients all died by 24 months.

But five of the six patients who received TFafter surgery " were alive

and disease-free " at the end of 24 months " and also at last follow-

up, 100-120 months after therapy. " This increase in survival was due

to the prevention of lung metastases. "

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Who is Tony Bell? I know you said his brother had good results with Protocel.

I am wondering if he is a natural doctor or just an individual that knows a lot

about Protocel.

Sounds like you are doing great!

Re: [ ] Which alternative treatment to choose?

It is the same as Cancell. Tony Bell does not sell Protocel. Renewal and

Wellness does. The Formula 50 is best.

[Guest guest]

He is an individual that knows a lot about Protocel because of his brother's

testimony.

I am doing great and a puzzle for the doctors. It has taken a lot of work and

dedication but the worst is done and our children have been raised completely

like this. They do not adhere to the All-American diet and habits. I have

learned the hard way.

Blessings,

Johanne

From: Kay

Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:51 PM

Who is Tony Bell? I know you said his brother had good results with Protocel.

I am wondering if he is a natural doctor or just an individual that knows a lot

about Protocel.

Sounds like you are doing great!

[Guest guest]

,

As far as I know there are no good confirming studies as to Essiac Tea and

it's healing properties. What I think is that it won't hurt and it may

help. I use it myself. Again, another arrow in my quiver. I still say use

everything you can find that purports to heal cancer as long as it has good

studies behind it, though anecdotal evidence is good enough for me as long

as I know the stuff in question won't hurt me. Some studies are

questionable though. My philosophy is if it won't hurt, and may help, then

do it.

Also, concerning Essiac tea, there are quite a few people who swear it

helped them (this is called anecdotal evidence). I understand it helps to

alkanalize the blood thereby making it harder for cancer to thrive.

For liver cancer, of course I am no doctor and can't give medical advise,

but I have seen numerous studies showing Avastin to be very evffective for

Liver Cancer. I'm on Avastin myself. Problem is, thats chemo.

I also take milk thistle which is very helpful to the liver. The Gerson

therpay claims great success with detoxing the liver through Coffee Enema's.

I start that next week along with juicing.

You see what I mean, I do everything! And I am having very good success so

far. My tumours have shrunk and I feel OK after the chemo wears off.

Another suggestion would be to look into the Budwig Protocol, which I also

use. I noticed a marked improvement after started adhering closely to that

protocol.

I would advise you to research everything thoroughly and not to use anything

I have said as a good reference for treatment because, as you know, I could

be wrong. Do the research.

Syd

>From: Wissell <nancy_wissell@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: RE: [ ] Which alternative treatment to choose?

>Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:00:41 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Syd -

>

>What do you know of the Essiac tea? Though they have

>not confirmed it yet I believe my father probably has

>liver cancer. Does anyone have experience with this

>tea and it's successes or failures?

>

>

>--- Syd Monk <syd_monk@...> wrote:

> > Jack,

> > Cocktails work best. Hit that cancer from every

> > direction. Do them all.

> > Be sure to research out any conflicts. I think Paw

> > Paw may conflict with

> > something, can't remember what now. I take over 50

> > supplements, do flax

> > oil/cottage cheese and will add the Gerson Therapy

> > as soon as I am off

> > chemo.

> > Do everything.

> > Alternatively there is a school of thought which

> > states it is best to pick

> > one protocol and stick with just that one. If you

> > go that route you should

> > look at Gerson, Rath and Budwig among others.

> >

> > But just taking one or two supplements is not

> > enough. > Syd

>

> >

> > >From: " jackad2000 "

> > >Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005

> >

> > >>There are SO MANY alternative treatments avaiable.

> > >I have extensive stage (metasticized) small-cell

> > lung cancer. I am

> > >considering the treatments listed below:

> > >>IP-6 + inositol

> > >Flax oil + cottage cheese

> > >Cesium chloride

> > >Paw paw

> > >Cancell (Cantron) or Protocell

> >

> > >>Can you help me choose?

> > >>Thank you. >Jack Adler

>

>