Re: Noelle

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In a message dated 11/14/00 9:06:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

j.monnens@... writes:

<<

I wonder if it might actually be good for to go to school all day. It

might distract him from his sadness and obsessions related to his

grandmother >>

Hi Jule,

Thanks for your suggestion. I know you are right and staying in school

should divert 's attention away from the issues around his grandmother's

death but unfortunately, at this point he isn't able to do that for reasons

besides that. We are having a disastrous start to the school

year...modifications not being implemented appropriately and losing so much

time before being able to get a new CSE meeting set up. is really

suffering in the mean time and I'm to the point where I'm happy if he can get

into school for at least part of the day. The meeting is now set up for the

30th of Nov. So I'm hoping we can turn this around soon.

Thanks again for your thoughts and I hope things are going better on your

front.

Noelle

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I went over to Hussman, put in some stats for you (making a lot of

them up, I have to admit). I said you were Female, 24years old,

120#, 5'5 " and 20%BF. The calculator put your BMR at 1325. Now, you

might have some different stats than I put in, but I'll bet that

unless you are less than 5' you don't come in much less than that.

You are at a point in your fitness when eating correctly is going to

help with your body fat percentage, not cutting down on calories.

would give you better info than I, but I think you are most

likely not eating enough to make muscle gains.

Anyone else have an opinion?

Alys

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Alys:

See, this is where I get confused! I wish I was 20 again!

I'm 33 and 5'2

Okay, I haven't had my Body Fat calculated. If I don't buy anything

else, I am buying some calipers. According to biofitness Im at 21%.

That being said, I want to lose the belly fat and the fat under my

arms, so I think I should creating a deficit for fat loss.????

I mean, this is the most confusing thing. Should I not be trying to

lose fat and just bulk? UGHHH!

I just don't get it. You guys are gonna be sick of me!

Noelle

> I went over to Hussman, put in some stats for you (making a lot of

> them up, I have to admit). I said you were Female, 24years old,

> 120#, 5'5 " and 20%BF. The calculator put your BMR at 1325. Now,

you

> might have some different stats than I put in, but I'll bet that

> unless you are less than 5' you don't come in much less than that.

>

> You are at a point in your fitness when eating correctly is going

to

> help with your body fat percentage, not cutting down on calories.

> would give you better info than I, but I think you are most

> likely not eating enough to make muscle gains.

>

> Anyone else have an opinion?

>

> Alys

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Yes, you have to have a deficit for fat loss, but you don't have to

go down to 1100 calories to create a dificit.

With those stats it says that your BMR is 1298. That is the number

of calories you burn in a resting state, as if you were laying in bed

all day. Now, he goes on to say that with intense work outs, and

being somewhat active the rest of the time, you are burning

approximately 2050 calories a day. To loose 1 pounds a week (to

create a caloric deficit of 3500 calories a week), subtract 500

calories from that 2050. He suggests that you aim at 1.3# of fat

loss a week, since you are so close to goal that sounds reasonable to

me.

That would have you eating 98000 calories a week (1400 a day on

average.) If you are taking a free day, you will want to stock pile

some calories from your daily intake, so that you can use them on the

week-end. HOWEVER do not go below your BMR. Remember, if you take

in too few calories your body thinks you are in a famin, and starts

to slow down the metabolism...how does it do this? By ditching

muscle.

Now, NONE of this is how BFL was intended, with all this counting and

such. Bill made his plan to be easy and uncomplicated by measuring

and getting hung up with numbers. Any new people out there, ignore

this posts! Serenity, forgive my sins...lol.

Alys

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Thanks Alys, its becoming clearer!

And I beg Serenity's forgiveness too!!

By the way, Serenity, I've been missing your post!

Please come back!

Noelle

> Yes, you have to have a deficit for fat loss, but you don't have to

> go down to 1100 calories to create a dificit.

>

> With those stats it says that your BMR is 1298. That is the number

> of calories you burn in a resting state, as if you were laying in

bed

> all day. Now, he goes on to say that with intense work outs, and

> being somewhat active the rest of the time, you are burning

> approximately 2050 calories a day. To loose 1 pounds a week (to

> create a caloric deficit of 3500 calories a week), subtract 500

> calories from that 2050. He suggests that you aim at 1.3# of fat

> loss a week, since you are so close to goal that sounds reasonable

to

> me.

>

> That would have you eating 98000 calories a week (1400 a day on

> average.) If you are taking a free day, you will want to stock

pile

> some calories from your daily intake, so that you can use them on

the

> week-end. HOWEVER do not go below your BMR. Remember, if you take

> in too few calories your body thinks you are in a famin, and starts

> to slow down the metabolism...how does it do this? By ditching

> muscle.

>

> Now, NONE of this is how BFL was intended, with all this counting

and

> such. Bill made his plan to be easy and uncomplicated by measuring

> and getting hung up with numbers. Any new people out there, ignore

> this posts! Serenity, forgive my sins...lol.

>

> Alys

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I know there is at least one University in Southern California, and I so

apolgize im not certain which one. I do know that they have a fund set up for

alternatives. Perhaps a google search in your area would be helpful. I so

wish I lived in California.

Your situation may be a blessing in disguise in sparing yourself from

falling prey to the high priced gimmicks. I do believe in the simplicity of

approaches as very well being the most beneficial. The Breuss protocol is an

excellent suggestion. Also to the grape diet. I would have to go into way to

graphic details as why I am convinced that it or a version thereof definitely

has merit.

I have also been reading about just water and the link between even low

grade dehydration, cancer and depression. The author, an MD, states that by

the

time we are thirsty we are actually aleady in a state of dehydration. With

8, 8 oz glasses to maintain hydration, caffeine as a toxin in that the minimal

water intake has to be dramatically increased to even balance out. I will

post more after reading the book. Only the best to you. Donna