Re: Certified Organic and Chemical Free Labels

[Guest guest]

Some time back it was revealed that the 'No MSG Added " does not mean that an

MSG-like element that actually acts like MSG is not included in the

ingredients. Floating somewhere out in Cyber-space and probably on my

computer is a list of the elements found in food that are actually MSG-like.

Additionally the use of the word " natural " as in Natural Flavors or Natural

Coloring does not mean the 'natural' most of us would like it to mean. The

FDA allows the use of the word Natural for certain colorings and flavors

that are not actually natural flavors at all.

I have questioned a couple of companies selling Organic products and have

received a few 'run around' e-mails that never did answer my questions about

MSG-like chemicals or the use of the word Natural.

Most will respond with a 'We Do Not Add MSG'...............to me, that

simply means it already exists in their ingredients and they correctly do

not 'add' any more.

We are dealing with an FDA that does not protect us nor does it protect

against the abuses that appear to be happening.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Carberry wrote:

There are many labels that says " No MSG added " or " No chemical added "

on front of the packages, but they are not certified organic. I often

wonder why not. It could be certified organic if it does not have

chemicals added. Are those foods that have " No chemical added " labels

as healthy as certified organic food?....Many organic foods are

expensive...usually not in my budget. Please advise.

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Hi ,

" Certified Organic " is a term applied to how the product is grown as

well as how it is processed. The soil the crop is grown in has to be

free of chemicals and the crop itself has to be pesticide free. Non-

organic large corporation food growers use synthetic chemical

fertilizers in the soil year after year. The result is that the plant

that grows in that soil is full of chemicals. The lettuce, carrots or

grapes can look great but may have lower nutrition and lots of

chemicals.

You refer to buying packaged foods. Instead of buying something

processed and packaged, why not buy actual fruits, vegetables, and

whole grains such as brown rice, quinoa, millet, etc. Eat as

naturally as possible. Avoid packaged or canned products. They

usually have unhealthy preservatives of some sort added. Also, your

food bill may be less without the packaged products.

Here is more information of studies that have been done:

" Research Suggests Organic Food is Better for Your Health "

Rats fed organic food were significantly healthier than their peers

given conventionally-grown produce, shows research reported by the

Danish Institute of Agricultural Sciences, February 2005. During the

experiment, 36 rats were divided into three groups. All were given

potatoes, carrots, peas, green kale, apples, rapeseed oil, and the

same vitamin supplements. One group was fed organic food, another

conventionally grown food with high levels of fertilizer and some

pesticide, and the third group received minimally fertilized

conventionally grown food. Although pesticide residue was measured

and found to be below detection levels in all groups, the scientists

found that the rats fed organically-grown produce were measurably

healthier, slept better, had stronger immune systems and were less

obese.

Lead researcher, Dr Kirsten Brandt, of Newcastle University's School

of Agriculture, was careful not to overstate the findings, but

noted: " The difference was so big it is very unlikely to be random.

We gave the food to the rats and then we measured what they were

doing. We can say the reason why the rats have different health was

clearly due to the fact that there was a different growing method,

and this was enough for this result. If we want to understand how and

why, we need another study. "

" How do organic foods benefit cellular health? "

*DNA: Eating organically grown foods may help to better sustain

health since recent test tube animal research suggests that certain

agricultural chemicals used in the conventional method of growing

food may have the ability to cause genetic mutations that can lead to

the development of cancer. One example is pentachlorophenol (PCP)

that has been found to be able to cause DNA fragmentation in animals.

*Mitochondria: Eating organically grown foods may help to better

promote cellular health since several agricultural chemicals used in

the conventional growing of foods have been shown to have a negative

effect upon mitochondrial function. These chemicals include paraquat,

parathion, dinoseb and 2-4-D which have been found to affect the

mitochondria and cellular energy production in a variety of ways

including increasing membrane permeability, which exposes the

mitochondria to damaging free radicals, inhibiting a process known as

coupling that is integral to the efficient production of ATP.

*Cell Membrane: Since certain agricultural chemicals may damage the

structure and function of the cellular membrane, eating organically

grown foods can help to protect cellular health. The insecticide

endosulfan and the herbicide paraquat have been shown to oxidize

lipid molecules and therefore may damage the phospholipid component

of the cellular membrane. In animal studies, pesticides such as

chlopyrifos, endrin and fenthion have been shown to over stimulate

enzymes involved in chemical signaling causing imbalance that has

been linked to conditions such as atherosclerosis, psoriasis and

inflammation.

For more information including a definition of " organic " and " organic

certification " click this link:

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=faq & dbid=17#OrganicLabel1

[Guest guest]

Organic foods are not in my budget either, but alas if I want to

get well, clean eating is one way that less toxins get in your

system. I am lucky to have a friend that helps me with the

grocieries or I would be in a pinch.

As to my knowledge organic foods do not have any MSG in them.

Stick with the fresh vegatables and fruit. Get a juicer for

the veggies and fruits.

AL

Spokane WA

[Guest guest]

To be certified organic, depending on the certifying body, many

requirements have to be met. For instance, the soil cannot have grown

any crops for a certain number of years using any pesticides or chemical

fertilizers. The equipment used to process the food can't have

processed non-organic foods. Etc., etc. A food that says " no chemicals

added " can still be grown with pesticides and synthetic fertilizers.

They are only saying that they didn't add any additional chemicals. The

nutrient levels of organic foods have been found to be much higher than

conventionally grown foods.

Talk to your local grocery chain about offering more organics. The

price differential is getting smaller and smaller and since chains can

buy in larger quanities, I find that the prices are lower at my Publix

than at my Whole Foods.

Also, check to see if there is a community supported agriculture program

in your area. Many are organic or at least use less pesticides, etc.

You can check at http://www.organicconsumers.org/ - click on " community

supported agriculture " on the bottom left. Look for green markets in

your area.

Best,

Lothian

From: (Camarata) Carberry

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006

Subject: Certified Organic and Chemical Free Labels

I usually read the ingredients of the food for any chemical listed in

the ingredients. There are many labels that says " No MSG added " or " No

chemical added " on front of the packages, but they are not certified

organic. I often wonder why not. It could be certified organic

if it does not have chemicals added.

Are those foods that have " No chemical added " labels

as healthy as certified organic food? I have many foods that have those

labels on front of the package that says " No MSG added " or " No

Chemical Added " , etc and I hope they are as good as those certified

organic food. Many organic foods are expensive...usually not in my

budget. Please advise.

[Guest guest]

Al: I think it is awesome that someone has stepped up to help

you with the expense of organic fruits and vegetables. I have

one question for ALL of you. I just hung up the phone with

someone that does Ozone Therapy and and IV Therapies etc. and

when I mentioned I was eating organic fruit with breast cancer

he immediately said to stop. I guess I was under the impression

that fresh fruit was good sugar if there is such a thing and all

the others were bad. Anyone have any other input on this??

Al you should check your local grocers like we have Safeway

and Fry's here in Az and they are carrying a limited amt but

much cheaper then Whole Foods or Wild Oats of organic veggies

and fruit. Glad to hear that your juicing and eating well.

Blessings, Frann

Ray wrote:

Organic foods are not in my budget either, but alas if I want to

get well, clean eating is one way that less toxins get in your

system. I am lucky to have a friend that helps me with the

grocieries or I would be in a pinch.

As to my knowledge organic foods do not have any MSG in them.

Stick with the fresh vegatables and fruit. Get a juicer for

the veggies and fruits.

AL - Spokane WA

[Guest guest]

: This is just my opinion but I think certified organic

is much better then stuff that says no chemicals added, or no msg.

I think that still can let them do perservatives and other

synthetic stuff that isn't good for you. Read two labels for

similar stuff one that states organic and the other no chemicals

and see for yourself. I was rather surprised. Organic tastes so

much better too. Frann

" wrote:

Are those foods that have " No chemical added " labels

as healthy as certified organic food? I have many foods that have those

labels on front of the package that says " No MSG added " or " No

Chemical Added " , etc and I hope they are as good as those certified

organic food. Many organic foods are expensive...usually not in my

budget. Please advise.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Fran,

I believe I mentioned to you earlier that fruits and cancer are

not a particularly good combination. Occasional fruit is OK. Things VERY

LOW on the glycemic index such as grapefruit are better. Watermelon will

help raise the ph level as it is one of the very best things to do that

with, but it should not be a heavy staple in the diet because of the ready

availability of sugar.

Juicing should pretty much be limited to greens (or other bright

vegetables), beets, radishes. Try to stay away from anything with much

sugar content. Some carrots and apples for flavor, but not overload as this

is not a good plan.

Organic is better, but if your pocket cannot afford it, by the freshest

produce you can find, wash thoroughly and use it.

Suggestions for juicing and other dietary considerations will be found at

our website under NUTRITION.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

<http://survivecancer.net> Http://survivecancer.net

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.

Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Frann Schwegler

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 6:58 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Certified Organic and Chemical Free Labels

Al: I think it is awesome that someone has stepped up to help

you with the expense of organic fruits and vegetables. I have

one question for ALL of you. I just hung up the phone with

someone that does Ozone Therapy and and IV Therapies etc. and

when I mentioned I was eating organic fruit with breast cancer

he immediately said to stop. I guess I was under the impression

that fresh fruit was good sugar if there is such a thing and all

the others were bad. Anyone have any other input on this??

Al you should check your local grocers like we have Safeway

and Fry's here in Az and they are carrying a limited amt but

much cheaper then Whole Foods or Wild Oats of organic veggies

and fruit. Glad to hear that your juicing and eating well.

Blessings, Frann

Ray wrote:

Organic foods are not in my budget either, but alas if I want to

get well, clean eating is one way that less toxins get in your

system. I am lucky to have a friend that helps me with the

grocieries or I would be in a pinch.

As to my knowledge organic foods do not have any MSG in them.

Stick with the fresh vegatables and fruit. Get a juicer for

the veggies and fruits.

AL - Spokane WA

[Guest guest]

All depends on who provides the certification ! Some companies are 'self

certified' which essentially means nothing, so a 3rd party certification is

essential.

I also understand that in the UK, our certification body (The Soil

Association), only requires their certified products, be they food or

healthcare, have to be 65% organic to gain certification.

What the other 35% contain is a mystery !

Regards -