Re: Breast cancer statistics for Frann

[Guest guest]

Then I am just one more exception to the rule, I guess.

I breast-fed both of my sons until they walked at 9 months and were

too busy to bother with Mom anymore :>) -- because I suspected they

would be lactose-intolerant like me (they are), because I wanted to

give them my immunities (they both were pretty healthy babies), and

because I'd hoped that by doing this I would help them avoid having to wear

braces on their teeth when they were older (they both had to

anyway). And yes, somewhere in all of that, I was hoping to give myself a

better chance of avoiding breast cancer down the line.

I was diagnosed with breast cancer anyway. Go figure.

Cheryl

I think the reason that there is an epidemic is because the women who give

birth who elect not to breast-feed are routinely given a strong hormone to shut

down the natural purpose of the breast, which is to lactate for babies.

[Guest guest]

Me, too. I breastfed all three of my little ones to 9-12 months of age.

I'm definitely not in the " most likely " stats!

Tina

You wrote:

Then I am just one more exception to the rule, I guess.

I breast-fed both of my sons until they walked at 9 months and were

too busy to bother with Mom anymore :>)

[Guest guest]

--Guess I was one of the ones who has breast cancer and did indeed

breast feed both my babies for months. So.........truly trying to find

cause is just not worth it. I went to my naturopath today and he wants

me in for an MRI and the totally suggests surgery for removal

immediately. Why? should I ask, there's no point I am resolute with

my faith and am thanking the Lord daily for my healing.. Praise God!

Frann

- In , Ellen & Bob <rhudy@...> wrote:

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Not breastfeeding is

> risking your life.

> Ellen

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[Guest guest]

--Cheryl: How are you doing and what are you doing? I guess I have

to agree with you and truthfully I was told by some that because we

breast fed and probably got an infection somewhere along the way

thats why we " might " have breast cancer. You can figure a million

reasons and it doesn't really matter its how you got at it and how

you fight and how you live you life thats going to make the

difference. " I will live and NOT die " Frann

, " ymisty7 " <misty777@...> wrote:

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> Then I am just one more exception to the rule, I guess.

>

> I breast-fed both of my sons until they walked at 9 months and were

> too busy to bother with Mom anymore :>) -- And yes, somewhere in

all of that, I was hoping to give myself a better chance of avoiding

breast cancer down the line.

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> I was diagnosed with breast cancer anyway. Go figure.

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> Cheryl

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[Guest guest]

I breast-fed the two I gave birth to for 4 years and 5 years and I have

bilateral breast cancer. I don't think it helped me (at least not in cancer

prevention). Hopefully, they got something out of it!

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From: ymisty7

Then I am just one more exception to the rule, I guess.

I breast-fed both of my sons until they walked at 9 months and were

[Guest guest]

Frann:

There might be a million reasons why we might have gotten breast cancer. I do

agree how we live our life is important.

I do feel finding the reason we got it is important also; in that we can help

secure the babies we breast fed! Since so many of us breast fed we already

discovered something. That doing just that isn't what prevents cancer. Now how

many of us have a mouthful of mercury fillings and how long?

Lina

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[Guest guest]

I also breast fed---for a total of about 4 yrs and was diagnosed shortly after

the birth of my 7th child. As a matter of fact I had to wean 2 of my children to

have my surgery. I did have a mastectomy with lymph node dissection due to the

fact that my Dr waited SO long to find out what my lump was that by the time I

switched Dr''s I could not even put my arm down because my lymph nodes were so

out of control. I have no regrets with having my breast removed!!! Its just a

breast that happened to be hosting a huge tumor. I was not so attatched that I

couldn't bear to lose it. It does not nor ever has defined who I am as a woman.

I did pray a lot before I had my surgery and had a great peace from God and

never once was even a little sad about my decision. I also did not do

reconstruction. I am now 38 and expecting my 8th child next month who will be

breastfeeding on my uni-boob! LOL!!! I did not do any other conventional

treatments other than the surgery even though I was left

with a huge lymph node that they missed. It was hiding high up under my muscle.

It took 6 months but it disappeared. My Dr wants me to get a CT scan and bone

scan after I deliver but I've decided I'm not doing that. I feel like PET scans

are somewhat safer. I also realize thermography is even better but I'm in a

small town where they have not discovered them yet....Soooo, I guess we'll see.

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

I am the opposite end of the spectrum, I had a hysterectomy when I

was 21 and pregnant with my first child. Needless to say I have

never breast fed. I did have the fibrous cysts so bad that a bra was totally

painful as were clothes. Because of this, they started me on mammograms at age

25. When I did get breast cancer at age 31, I found the lump a mere 3 months

after a clear mammogram. They called it a precancerous mass and told me it had

to come out, but then due to socialized medicine in Canada, I went on a waiting

list to get the surgery. By the time they removed the mass 7 months later, it

had turned to cancer. I was told they got all of it in the surgery and I

refused the radiation treatments they wanted me to have just to be sure. At the

time I asked them what was the point of early detection when they wouldn't do

anything about what was found in a timely manner.

I have never had another mammogram, since obviously they give a very

false sense of security. I am not sure why I refused the radiation

therapy, but I am glad that I did. Now, I know why that was a good

decision, but then, it was only a feeling that it was not a good idea.

I have had melanoma which was cut out since then, back in 1998. I

decided that enough was enough. I started do real research into why

cancer forms and what can be done about it. The changes I have made

to my diet have improved my health to the point where I am now the

healthiest I have ever been.

My genetic sire's family had a lot of cancer, with many aunts and

uncles dying from it. I refuse to do so.

Bright Blessings,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim, do you use iodine supplementation for your breasts?

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From: Garth & Kim

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I am the opposite end of the spectrum, I had a hysterectomy when I

was 21 and pregnant with my first child. Needless to say I have

never breast fed. I did have the fibrous cysts so bad that a bra was totally

painful as were clothes. Because of this, they started me on mammograms at age

25. When I did get breast cancer at age 31,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

I first heard about iodine supplementation back in the 1980s when I

suffered from fibrous cysts. Information was sketchy to put it

mildly, then. And it was expensive. The one thing the doctors had

right was that menopause would end that problem, permanently. It did.

I have not had any cysts for over 15 years now, so I have no need to

take the iodine.

Bright Blessings,

Kim

At 10:59 AM 10/19/2006, you wrote:

Kim, do you use iodine supplementation for your breasts?

[Guest guest]

You are an amazing woman !

I think your attitude alone will save you!

Putting so much importance in breasts belongs to people that can't find

happiness in anything else.

You have discovered the real meaning of life by unattaching yourself from the

physical.

The first step in healing the body is healing your spirit. and I think you've

got it.

There is a lot of advise in this forum.

You will know what 's best for you.

Lots of love

Lina

Subject: [ ] Re: Breast cancer statistics for Frann

I have no regrets with having my breast removed!!! Its just a breast that

happened to be hosting a huge tumor. I was not so attatched that I couldn't bear

to lose it. It does not nor ever has defined who I am as a woman.

[Guest guest]

--Kim: Can you tell me more about the iodine and how you test for it

and where do you get it. thanks for the info. Frann

> In , Garth & Kim <gartht@...>

wrote:

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> Greetings,

> I first heard about iodine supplementation back in the 1980s when I

> suffered from fibrous cysts.

>

[Guest guest]

-Kim: Thank you so much for sharing so candidly. I guess I am in a

similar spot except one thing I chose to be here. I have made the

changes way back in Dec to organic but am convinced now that if you

don't do it full heartedly you're kidding yourself. I was still

eating some meat and thats just not good. Any suggestions would be

wonderful at this point. Frann

In , Garth & Kim <gartht@...>

wrote:

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> Greetings,

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> I am the opposite end of the spectrum, I had a hysterectomy when I

> was 21 and pregnant with my first child. Needless to say I have

> never breast fed.

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> Bright Blessings,

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

--: What is your position right now? What was your decision

with your cancer? I don't recall ever reading it before. Thanks for

your response. Frann

In , " King's Song " <melanie@...> wrote:

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> I breast-fed the two I gave birth to for 4 years and 5 years and I

have bilateral breast cancer. I don't think it helped me (at least

not in cancer prevention). Hopefully, they got something out of it!

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[Guest guest]

I just sent an e-mail about that! I'm on so many lists that I have difficulty

remembering where I've said what. So far I have gone totally

nutritional/natural therapies. I have not done any type of medical treatment.

My doctor's words to me on Tuesday were that the breast " moves more freely on

the chest than before " and that the skin is " softer " (I call it more squishy).

The tumor is not actually smaller at this point, but it will be soon! When I

went to the doctor 3 months ago and was told that I most likely had cancer there

was very significant dimpling in the breast with the larger tumor, and the

dimpling is almost completely gone.

From: fmschwegler

:...What was your decision with your cancer? I don't recall ever

reading it before. Frann

[Guest guest]

-: Thank you for sharing your testimony and post with me. I

have felt Gods peace from the moment this was found and even with

the changes I still don't feel that peace going away. I am resolved

to the fact that I have a part to play in this and I can't be

complacent at all. I will have the MRI but I don't think I will let

anyone touch the lymph nodes whats the difference if they're

cancerous or not if your working to heal they will heal also. Would

love to hear from you privately so I can ask some questions that may

not be appropriate on the site. Again thank you sharing and I pray

that all works out perfectly for YOU. Frann

In , Farley

<read_isaiah_53_5@...> wrote:

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> I also breast fed---for a total of about 4 yrs and was diagnosed

shortly after the birth of my 7th child. As a matter of fact I had

to wean 2 of my children to have my surgery. I did have a mastectomy

with lymph node dissection due to the fact that my Dr waited SO long

to find out what my lump was that by the time I switched Dr''s I

could not even put my arm down because my lymph nodes were so out of

control. I have no regrets with having my breast removed!!! Its just

a breast that happened to be hosting a huge tumor. I was not so

attatched that I couldn't bear to lose it. It does not nor ever has

defined who I am as a woman. I did pray a lot before I had my

surgery and had a great peace from God and never once was even a

little sad about my decision. >

>

[Guest guest]

--Lina: Since my diagnosis I have read hundreds if not thousands of

hours of articles on beast cancer. They say it could be caused by

breast feeding, by fillings in your mouth or even a root canal or

bad tooth presently in your mouth, they also say a car accident that

julted your boobs, they even go so far as to say seat belts might be

the cause. WHO CARES LETS JUST FIND THE CURE ALREADY.. With all the

monies spent you'd think someone would have gotten something right

already. Its NOT going to happen here in the US because of the

pharmaceutical companies and the billions they will loose. But that

doesn't mean that people like you and me can't search and find

alternative that work. Right now I am praying for someone to tell me

something that will shrink this thing inside me quickly. I have read

so much and sometimes its just one big blur but I know its out there

and right now Johanna Budwig is what I am following. I have God's

peace. Thank you, Frann

- In , " kneadlina " <kneadlina@...> wrote:

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> Frann:

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cancer. I do agree how we live our life is important.

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[Guest guest]

Frann.

Don't you think we already have most of the answers?

Sometimes we make it more difficult because of our fears.

Lets say we did most of the cleanses. Got rid of the mercury, did a kidney

cleanse..parasite cleanse..liver and colon cleanse; and we still face that thing

in our breast. What then? We're eating whole organic food, cut the soy, but that

thing is still haunting you? What if your conscious self is fearless, but your

unconscious self is not - its crying like a baby.

That is harder to clean up. It requires looking into our hurts from the past and

forgiving ourselves and others. Seems impossible? I had a client with severe

frozen shoulder that it affected the position of his head..it was tilted. He

said he had it for thirty years! I thought it was unusual that no one was able

to do anything for that long. I asked him if anything emotional happened at that

time? He said yes but he was used to it now and he doesn't think about it

anymore. His son died at seven years old! I asked him " and you don't see the

connection with that crisis and your shoulder?

That was the first time I " saw " someone connect with his sub-conscious...he went

into shock. His eyes were glazed and he looked like he wanted to respond but

couldn't talk.

Its funny how you just know its the truth when you hear it. What I understand

about past pain.is if you don't find a positive thought to replace that

negative..you will carry it the rest of your life..In this case He carried

quilt. Every parent feels responsible.

We punish ourselves even though we think we don't. We want good for ourselves

but deep down we haven't let go of something. What does this have to do with a

tumor? The tumour could be the manifestation of you not forgiving yourself.

People blame themselves for things that couldn't be helped...that is just who we

are. This is just another way of looking at this.

Hope it helps

Lina

Peace

[Guest guest]

--Thank you again for all this wisdom and encouragement I am so

blessed. You are right about forgiveness. It can form a bitter root

if we let it. I have been in prayer about my past as you are the

third person to say this. " Wonder if God is trying to tell me

something here " ? I need some quiet to time alone to really sit and

just listen.. Again thank you, Frann

- In , " kneadlina " <kneadlina@...> wrote:

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The tumour could be the manifestation of you not forgiving yourself.

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> People blame themselves for things that couldn't be helped...that

is just who we are. This is just another way of looking at this.

> Hope it helps

>

> Lina

> Peace

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[Guest guest]

---: So you are simply just changing your eating habits and the

things you use externally on your body? No outside supplemnts in this?

And your seeing shrinkage and a softer tumor? I never had breast wall

envolvement either and my tunor is just hard and always has been. It

hasn't changed in size he's just concerned because there are signs

external now that weren't there before. I am using creams to rectify

those. " King's Song " <melanie@...> wrote:

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So far I have gone totally nutritional/natural therapies. I have

not done any type of medical treatment. My doctor's words to me on

Tuesday were that the breast " moves more freely on the chest than

before " and that the skin is " softer " (I call it more squishy). The

tumor is not actually smaller at this point, but it will be soon!

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