Re: Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese

September 23, 2003

Perhaps ADM might have tested it with soy milk. If not them, perhaps someone

else sith a financial interest in soy. Independantly funded/conducted studies,

however, show that soy is poison and not fit for human consumption. A direct

causal link between soy and cancer, CHD and thyroid problems has been firmly

established. If you knew what kind of processing occurred prior to formation of

the soy cake from which soy milk is produced, you would not touch the stuff!

There are plenty of dairies that do not use rBGH and antibiotics on their herds.

Finding dairies that fed their cows real cow food (green grass as opposed to

grain) can be a bit harder.

Lately i have been using Brown Cow (cream on top) brand yogurt which is rBGH and

antibiotic-free from cows fed green grass.

>Dr. Budwig used flax oil and quark, skim milk or cottage cheese as

>the sulfur based protein to cure cancer, but today's milk products

>are loaded with hormones injected into the cows to increase milk

>production. These hormones are identical to hormones that cause

>breast, colon and prostate cancer. I doubt that she would use these

>today.

>

>Have there been any tests using soy milk and MSM with flax oil? If

>so, what were the results?

>

>If not, does this sound like a good option? Or are there any other

>suggestions?

>

>Regards,

>

>Dick

--

Neil Jensen: neil@...

The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/

It has recently been discovered

that research causes cancer in rats.

September 23, 2003

Dick -

Dr.Budwig used flaxseed oil with quark or with cottage cheese where

quark was not available. Skim milk, apart from having been used in

her initial experiments, was only used as a thinner, not as one of

the primary ingredients.

Contrary to what you think, Dr.Budwig used flaxseed oil mixed with

quark right to the very end. She was still practicing last fall. She

was often asked for substitutes but she did not budge from quark.

Cottage cheese being a good alternative where quark is not

available.

Sure there are hormones in some commercial dairy. The USA is the

worst place for such practices but even there it is less wide spread

than some would want you to believe. Not all dairy farmers do that.

If you take your queue from an 'no milk web sites' you will be

scared for sure, but all is not as bleak as the picture is often

painted.

Many people use flaxseed oil mixed with commercial cottage cheese

(fo/cc) and show improvements. The advantages of the fo/cc mixture

far outweigh the negative effects of the commercial dairy. However,

it is good policy to look for the best product available. It is

better if you can get your dairy organic, but that goes for all

foods.

Tests with soy milk? To the best of my knowledge, there has been no

research with fo/cc in any combination other than what Dr.Budwig did

originally. Nobody but the enlightened sufferer wants it. There is

no money in it.

MSM is a naturally occurring sulfur not a sulfur based protein. The

Budwig formula calls for the latter, i.e. cysteine, cystine and

methionine.

I would not switch from dairy to soy for two reasons: All the

documented successes with the Budwig diet have been with quark or

cottage cheese. Soy milk is too low in sulfur proteins and besides,

soy has bad reputation of it's own. So, neither soy milk nor MSM are

good options as a replacement for quark or cottage cheese. Yogurt

can be used if one takes about 3 times as much as quark.

What can be done is to stick to the lowest level of dairy that the

Budwig formula calls for. Many people use 50% to 100% more than is

required. That is unnecessary. One can also spike the dairy with

some nuts (no peanuts) as they are high in sulfur bearing proteins.

But to let go of dairy in the Budwig Diet is not a good idea.

Wilhelm

> Dr. Budwig used flax oil and quark, skim milk or cottage cheese as

> the sulfur based protein to cure cancer, but today's milk products

> are loaded with hormones injected into the cows to increase milk

> production. These hormones are identical to hormones that cause

> breast, colon and prostate cancer. I doubt that she would use

these

> today.

>

> Have there been any tests using soy milk and MSM with flax oil? If

> so, what were the results?

>

> If not, does this sound like a good option? Or are there any other

> suggestions?

>

> Regards,

>

> Dick

September 23, 2003

I buy raw milk from cows that eat organic grass. The farm is just down the

road from my house and the farmer was glad to have another customer. I just

show up with my jug a few days a week. I make my own cottage cheese and

yogurt. It's pretty easy. Virginia

At 09:50 PM 9/23/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>Dr. Budwig used flax oil and quark, skim milk or cottage cheese as

>the sulfur based protein to cure cancer, but today's milk products

>are loaded with hormones injected into the cows to increase milk

>production. These hormones are identical to hormones that cause

>breast, colon and prostate cancer. I doubt that she would use these

>today.

>

>Have there been any tests using soy milk and MSM with flax oil? If

>so, what were the results?

>

>If not, does this sound like a good option? Or are there any other

>suggestions?

>

>Regards,

>

>Dick

>

September 23, 2003

Organic milk and cottage cheese from cows free of hormones, drugs or any

kind is available in most places

in the states....here on the oregon coast Safeway even sells it.

Ellen

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> Dr. Budwig used flax oil and quark, skim milk or cottage cheese as

> the sulfur based protein to cure cancer, but today's milk products

> are loaded with hormones injected into the cows to increase milk

> production. These hormones are identical to hormones that cause

> breast, colon and prostate cancer. I doubt that she would use these

> today.

>

> Have there been any tests using soy milk and MSM with flax oil? If

> so, what were the results?

>

> If not, does this sound like a good option? Or are there any other

> suggestions?

>

> Regards,

>

> Dick

>

September 23, 2003

Instead of with antibiotics and hormones loaded dairies we use in our german

cures for cancergroup flax oil with quark (cottatge cheese) from goats and sheeps.

This is definitly a better option than soy.

pelcka

September 24, 2003

> Instead of with antibiotics and hormones loaded dairies we use in

our german

> cures for cancergroup flax oil with quark (cottatge cheese) from goats and

sheeps.

Hi, Pelcka,

how do you make quark using goats products (milk or yogurt)? Would

you share the recipe?

Thanks,

Elena

September 24, 2003

Virtually ANYTHING is better than soy!

>Instead of with antibiotics and hormones loaded dairies we use in our german

>cures for cancergroup flax oil with quark (cottatge cheese) from goats and sheeps.

>This is definitly a better option than soy.

>

>pelcka

--

Neil Jensen: sumeria.net

The WWW VL: Sumeria http://www.sumeria.net/

" Soy serves as meat and milk for a new generation of politically

correct vegetarians. " Sally Fallon and G. Enig, PhD

September 24, 2003

Hi Elena,

we buy the quark from an organic goat farmer. I have no idea how to make it.

pelcka

September 24, 2003

For those who like to know how to make quark, here is a cross-post

from FlaxSeedOil2/

Kathy,

if you want to make low fat cottage cheese why not make quark. It is

simpler and it is what Dr.Budwig used.

You have two ways of making it:

One way is buying the quark maker from the German Corner as did

and take it from there.

http://store.german-usa.com/Houseware/quark_maker.html

The other way is the the method I use.

Pour 2 liters or 2 quarts of buttermilk into a pyrex pot.

Place it in an oven for about 8 hours at 150º F.

Remove, strain.

Makes about 1/3 quark and 2/3 whey .

Refrigerate.

Wilhelm

> Hi Elena,

> we buy the quark from an organic goat farmer. I have no idea how

to make it.

> pelcka

September 24, 2003

Do you raise your own goats, or know where to obtain hormone free goats milk? I

would imagine that anyone producing goats milk for the market would use hormones

and antibiotics to increase milk production and prevent their goats getting

sick. But it sounds like a good substitute for cows milk.

Dick

Re: [ ] Re: Flaxseed oil and cottage cheese

Instead of with antibiotics and hormones loaded dairies we use in our german

cures for cancergroup flax oil with quark (cottatge cheese) from goats and sheeps.

This is definitly a better option than soy.

pelcka

September 24, 2003

Quark is very easy to make. I am sure that you could do a search on Google and

get lots of recipes.

Basically you use 1/2 cup of butter milk and a gallon (doesn't matter) of milk,

stir and put in an oven with only the light on (No Heat!) In about 24 hours (or

less) it will be clabbered. You can add a little salt, if desired. Don't stir

it, as stirring can damage the curds. Put a thin dish towel in a large collander

(not too thin or the curds will be lost, but not too heavy or the whey will not

drain), carefully ladle in the curdled milk, tie the ends and hang for an hour,

or so. You can save the whey to water plants or make hot cakes, etc. Depending

on how long it is hung it will be firmer or softer. If you let it hang too long

you can add back some of the whey. It will keep a week, or so, in the refrig.

Can be used like sour cream, riccota, cottage cheese, etc.,

If you like butter milk you can save some of the clabbered milk before you put

it in the dish towel, add some salt, and chill. Shake well before pouring.

Dick

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Hi Elena,

we buy the quark from an organic goat farmer. I have no idea how to make it.

pelcka

September 24, 2003

Thanks, Wilhelm,

I think I will try that with goats yogurt and see what happens. This

is the only dairy product we currently use. I was thinking of making

fresh yogurt cheese with it but the brand available here (Yo-Goat) is

too watery for that -- maybe heating it up for a few hours on low will

get it to go subatomic... I mean, quark.

Danke.

> > Hi Elena,

> > we buy the quark from an organic goat farmer. I have no idea how

> to make it.

> > pelcka

September 24, 2003

Dick,

I agree with the way you descibe to make buttermilk but leaving it

at room temperature is fine. Buttermilk culture is mesophilic,

meaning that the bacteria likes it warm, not hot. It does best in

room temperature around 65-90º F (18-32º C).

However, the next step of pouring the buttermilk through a

dishtowel... have you tried it?

I have tried it many moons ago - without success. I consequently

gave up making quark until I heard that the buttermilk needs to be

heated to make quark (after fermentation of course). I tried that

and had great success every time. I make it that way every week now.

Wilhelm

> Quark is very easy to make. I am sure that you could do a search

on Google and get lots of recipes.

>

> Basically you use 1/2 cup of butter milk and a gallon (doesn't

matter) of milk, stir and put in an oven with only the light on (No

Heat!) In about 24 hours (or less) it will be clabbered. You can add

a little salt, if desired. Don't stir it, as stirring can damage the

curds. Put a thin dish towel in a large collander (not too thin or

the curds will be lost, but not too heavy or the whey will not

drain), carefully ladle in the curdled milk, tie the ends and hang

for an hour, or so. You can save the whey to water plants or make

hot cakes, etc. Depending on how long it is hung it will be firmer

or softer. If you let it hang too long you can add back some of the

whey. It will keep a week, or so, in the refrig. Can be used like

sour cream, riccota, cottage cheese, etc.,

>

> If you like butter milk you can save some of the clabbered milk

before you put it in the dish towel, add some salt, and chill. Shake

well before pouring.

>

> Dick

]

September 24, 2003

With just the oven light on it stays about 105 degrees F., which seems to be

what the culture likes. I don't know the process the milk goes through, but 1/2

cup buttermilk in a gallon of milk seems to turn into what tastes like

buttermilk in 24 hours, and when strained through a dish towel makes a good

quark.

It does not seem necessary to make the buttermilk first at room temp, and then

heat it to make quark. But if you have a system that works for you, don't fix

it.

Dick

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