Re: Heavy metal toxicity and role of radiation/emf's in causing cancer

February 10, 2002

The chelation of lead and other stuff can be done inexpensively. I am no

doctor. What I did is buy a small amount (100 grams) of disodium EDTA at

a laboratory supply house here in Portland (Nurenberg). It is made by

" The Science Alliance " of Humble, Texas and it is relatively cheap and

should be available in any large city or by mail.

I have a gram scale. I take 2 1/2 grams on an empty stomach early

morning with fruit juice and eat nothing for an hour or so. One-half

level teaspoon is 2.6 grams, close enough. I would not exceed that as I

have no clinical data on the consequences of a larger dose.

In the mid sixties an M.D. in the Kansas City area was using this amount

with patients and he invited me to come and see them and study them

using dopppler ultrasound where appropriate (he was a customer--I make

doppler ultrasound diagnostic equipment).. They had all gotten dramatic

results--recovery from stroke, relief from chest pain (angina) and the

most remarkable, an elderly man whose leg had been dark blue from

blocked vessels had a shiny pink leg with wide open posterior tibial

artery (the main one). I was amazed.

The doctor (no longer in practice) showed me the newspaper clippings

about a soap manufacturer in Milwaukee, Wisconsin who took it for his

heart problem and was giving it to friends who were helped. I think the

clippings came from the fifties.

Hundreds of thousands of people have been chelated using intravenous

technique. I have had that (once) and 2.5 grams was used over a 3 hour

period. 1 drop per second. I believe intravenous use is mostly turf

protection. It works orally too--maybe not as efficiently but at far

less cost and inconvenience.

I have a bottle sold commercially by a vitamin store for oral EDTA

chelation and it has only 0.126 grams of EDTA and a bunch of minerals.

That's an exceedingly small amount and I don't think combining minerals

at the same time is the way to go. Hours later is OK, and that's what

the doctor I knew did. Also he had them take it about 4 or 5 times a

week as I recall.

EDTA is water soluble but slow to dissolve. It is ok to heat some water

to make it go into solution more quickly. If you just put it in juice

and stir and drink, you'll likely see a white powder in the bottom of

the glass. It just didn't all dissolve, so you aren't getting all of it.

I scoop with a spoon or add water and swirl it until I get it all down..

Side effects can be some diarrhea and the doctor told me it can unknit

healed bone fractures and potentially dissolve gallstones, causing them

to break loose and lodge in a bile duct. I don't consider this too much

risk. Cancer patients are mostly constipated anyway, so I read.

It is common for the Mexican cancer clinics to do intravenous chelation

with their therapies. My contact there says patients do better who are

chelated. Also experience shows that people who've been chelated don't

develop cancer (Regelsohn or Regelson of DHEA fame). There should be

info on that somewhere within the American Academy of Alternative

Medicine.

EDTA is great for removing lead and likely calcium or iron in the wrong

places. Removal of mercury is very questionable.

Again, I am no doctor. The method I use may be contraindicated for some.

Get professional advice.

My field is electronics. I don't buy the part below about EMF fields.

There's no evidence from a reliable source that electric fields of low

frequency are harmful. The mind can play terrible tricks on us.

Loren Parks

Melinda Wiman wrote:

> Looking for any studies, good websites, organizations, and people who

> work with these issues.

>

> One person believes heavy metal toxicity lead to her cancer. She had

> lead poisoning for sure. She's already done chelation and is now

> working with an alternative practitioner who is on the East coast, but

> would like to do some additional research and find a doctor more

> local. Anyone have some info on this - I would guess that this is a

> contributing factor, but don't know the websites

> off-the-top-of-my-head to refer her to. She's in Idaho and I don't

> know any practitioners in Idaho to even put her in touch with.

>

> Another person says she was over radiated. She wants to know what she

> can do immediately to help with this as she says she can't even go

> near or into a building with EMF fields...says she can feel them.

> She says she can't use a computer, phone, anything that generates emf

> fields without getting sick. She believes she has skin cancer now,

> but is having trouble finding a doctor to go to that isn't near a

> power line, that doesn't have a bunch of equipment generating emf

> fields and that they all use florescent lights, etc. Anyone have any

> suggestions for her and web pages or sites that give studies on

> radiation exposure causing this kind of a reaction. This person

> actually lives here in Ventura County California and we are not the

> health freedom state that many assume we would be. She is pretty

> sick so I don't know how far she could travel, but any suggestions

> would be appreciated. I am sure there is a lot she can also do at

> home.

>

> Thanks for any input,

>

> Melinda Wiman

> www.cancure.org

> The Cancer Cure Foundation

> (800) 282-2873

> Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer

>

> or help with side effects of chemo/radiation

>

February 10, 2002

The ACAM website www.acam.org may have some doctors who are likely to use

alternative medical treatments.

arnold

Heavy metal toxicity and role of radiation/emf's in

causing cancer

> Looking for any studies, good websites, organizations, and people who work

with these issues.

>

> One person believes heavy metal toxicity lead to her cancer. She had lead

poisoning for sure. She's already done chelation and is now working with an

alternative practitioner who is on the East coast, but would like to do some

additional research and find a doctor more local. Anyone have some info on

this - I would guess that this is a contributing factor, but don't know the

websites off-the-top-of-my-head to refer her to. She's in Idaho and I don't

know any practitioners in Idaho to even put her in touch with.

>

> Another person says she was over radiated. She wants to know what she can

do immediately to help with this as she says she can't even go near or into

a building with EMF fields...says she can feel them. She says she can't

use a computer, phone, anything that generates emf fields without getting

sick. She believes she has skin cancer now, but is having trouble finding a

doctor to go to that isn't near a power line, that doesn't have a bunch of

equipment generating emf fields and that they all use florescent lights,

etc. Anyone have any suggestions for her and web pages or sites that give

studies on radiation exposure causing this kind of a reaction. This person

actually lives here in Ventura County California and we are not the health

freedom state that many assume we would be. She is pretty sick so I don't

know how far she could travel, but any suggestions would be appreciated. I

am sure there is a lot she can also do at home.

>

> Thanks for any input,

>

> Melinda Wiman

> www.cancure.org

> The Cancer Cure Foundation

> (800) 282-2873

> Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer

> or help with side effects of chemo/radiation

>

February 11, 2002

Hi Melinda,

Here is a site that has a listing for doctors who will treat CFS/FM.

Don't let the CFS/FM part concern you, because if a doctor would be

willing treat CFS/FM they are usually more open minded and likely will

help you out on other issues. (I understand that it is actually the

doctors themselves who add their names to this list.)

Just check the " Physicians " box on the left side of the page and then

go from there.

Perhaps other list members know of other sites that would have

physician referrals.

Kind regards,

Trudy

Message: 13

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:42:08 -0800

From: " Melinda Wiman " <wiman@...>

Subject: Heavy metal toxicity and role of radiation/emf's in causing

cancer

Looking for any studies, good websites, organizations, and people who

work with these issues.

One person believes heavy metal toxicity lead to her cancer. She had

lead poisoning for sure. She's already done chelation and is now

working with an alternative practitioner who is on the East coast, but

would like to do some additional research and find a doctor more

local. Anyone have some info on this - I would guess that this is a

contributing factor, but don't know the websites

off-the-top-of-my-head to refer her to. She's in Idaho and I don't

know any practitioners in Idaho to even put her in

touch with.

Another person says she was over radiated. She wants to know what she

can do immediately to help with this as she says she can't even go

near or into a building with EMF fields...says she can feel them.

She says she can't use a computer, phone,

anything that generates emf fields without getting sick. She believes

she has skin cancer now, but is having trouble finding a doctor to go

to that isn't near a power line, that doesn't have a bunch of

equipment generating emf fields and that they all use florescent

lights, etc. Anyone have any suggestions for her and web pages or

sites that give studies on radiation exposure causing this kind of a

reaction. This person actually lives here in Ventura County

California and we are not the health freedom state that many assume we

would be. She is pretty sick so I don't know how far she could

travel, but any suggestions would be appreciated. I am sure there is a

lot she can also do at home.

Thanks for any input,

Melinda Wiman

www.cancure.org

The Cancer Cure Foundation

(800) 282-2873

Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer

or help with side effects of chemo/radiation

February 11, 2002

Oopsie daisy! ...I guess it would have helped if I included the link!

;-) LOL

https://www.endfatigue.com/home.nsf

Kind regards,

Trudy

Hi Melinda,

Here is a site that has a listing for doctors who will treat CFS/FM.

Don't let the CFS/FM part concern you, because if a doctor would be

willing treat CFS/FM they are usually more open minded and likely will

help you out on other issues. (I understand that it is actually the

doctors themselves who add their names to this list.)

Just check the " Physicians " box on the left side of the page and then

go from there.

Perhaps other list members know of other sites that would have

physician referrals.

Kind regards,

Trudy

February 12, 2002

Hi Melinda,

I have recently been learning about mycomedicinals

(medicinal mushrooms), and have read by an

authoritative source ( Stamets) that certain

mushrooms can be taken to counter the effects of

radiation, including: maitake, reishi, turkey tails,

and polyporous/zhu-ling.

most of these could probably be found in a good health

food store in Ventura, or through a practitioner of

chinese medicine.

I've also read that for radiation, it is good to drink

aloe juice.

hoping this helps,

Elana

--- Melinda Wiman <wiman@...> wrote:

> Looking for any studies, good websites,

> organizations, and people who work with these

> issues.

>

> One person believes heavy metal toxicity lead to her

> cancer. She had lead poisoning for sure. She's

> already done chelation and is now working with an

> alternative practitioner who is on the East coast,

> but would like to do some additional research and

> find a doctor more local. Anyone have some info on

> this - I would guess that this is a contributing

> factor, but don't know the websites

> off-the-top-of-my-head to refer her to. She's in

> Idaho and I don't know any practitioners in Idaho to

> even put her in touch with.

>

> Another person says she was over radiated. She wants

> to know what she can do immediately to help with

> this as she says she can't even go near or into a

> building with EMF fields...says she can feel them.

> She says she can't use a computer, phone, anything

> that generates emf fields without getting sick. She

> believes she has skin cancer now, but is having

> trouble finding a doctor to go to that isn't near a

> power line, that doesn't have a bunch of equipment

> generating emf fields and that they all use

> florescent lights, etc. Anyone have any suggestions

> for her and web pages or sites that give studies on

> radiation exposure causing this kind of a reaction.

> This person actually lives here in Ventura County

> California and we are not the health freedom state

> that many assume we would be. She is pretty sick

> so I don't know how far she could travel, but any

> suggestions would be appreciated. I am sure there is

> a lot she can also do at home.

>

> Thanks for any input,

>

> Melinda Wiman

> www.cancure.org

> The Cancer Cure Foundation

> (800) 282-2873

> Information and referrals on alternative approaches

> to treating cancer

> or help with side effects of chemo/radiation

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

__________________________________________________

February 12, 2002

Hi Melinda,

I just thought of another site that might be helpful in finding a

doctor. Check this out:

http://www.co-cure.org/Good-Doc.htm

Kind regards,

Trudy

February 12, 2002

The herbal healer has a product for persons radiated with x-rays,

mammograms, high-ionizing radiation, etc. She also has GREENS,

ASPARAGUS POWDER, and other easy-to-take powder which may

help. Ask her about it.

http://www.herbalhealer.com

Radiation causes gene mutations, breaks chromosomes, damages

molecules, and causes dangerous free radicals in your body.

Poly-MVP helps protect genes and neutralizes free radicals.

http://www.polymva.com/

http://polymvasurvivorslist.evisionsite.com/

Noni helped one person. Read the testimony below.

---------------------------------------------

From Net@... Tue Feb 12 00:52:35 2002

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:18:12 EST

From: Net@...

undisclosed-recipients: ;

Subject: Noni Juice Cancer Testimonial

The following was posted by Dave Bush. Dave is the moderator of this group.

It is very humbling for me to attempt to convey to you my experience with

metastasis malignant melanoma and our introduction to Tahitian Noni juice

right when things were looking devastating for me and my family. In March

2001 I was diagnosed with clear cell sarcoma in my right calf, which is a

very rare form of malignant melanoma. As a young active person who has never

had any health challenges, that was a devastating blow. When you hear the

word " cancer " you do not feel that it belongs to you. But that was my

reality. What followed was an exercise in patience and faith in the Lord. My

first surgery was a 10 hour experience but due to " complications " I had

three more surgeries in a two day period followed by a grueling 9 week

hospital stay.

Fast forward to August when I finished 6 weeks of daily radiation. I was

really looking forward to recovering and living again! Well, about a week

after radiation an MRI confirmed the tumor had spread to my right knee.

Another surgery. About a week after that surgery, an MRI and a PET scan

confirmed infected lymph nodes in my right upper thigh. The cancer was

moving up my leg. The day after we received the conclusive results of the

PET scan is when our " angel " neighbor called my wife Lucy to ask if she had

ever heard of a product called " Tahitian Noni juice " . Lucy is a health care

provider and works as a Physician Assistant. She was extremely skeptical and

cautious because things were not looking good for me at all. As she now

describes the situation, Lucy " did not want anything to mess with my mind " .

Lucy asked for and did a lot of research on the product. Our research told

us about the elements in Tahitian Noni Juice that help boost the bodies

immune system. After several days of research, I still remember the day Lucy

said to me " I think you need to try this product " .

I started taking the amount suggested by Dr. Neil in his book

" Tahitian Noni Juice: How much, How often, for what? " This was 1 bottle a

day for four days followed by 15 oz. a day for the rest of the month. My

" maintenance dose " now is 8 oz. a day. Well, within a matter of days, my skin

which had been scarred and burned by intense radiation was looking much

better, there was less pain in my leg and I had a lot more energy. We were

cautiously optimistic about this " noni " product. At that point I truly felt

that even if this product did nothing else for me, having less pain and more

energy were priceless. I was able to participate in my life again! Surgery

to remove my inguinal lymph nodes was coming up in three weeks and neither

my doctors nor my family were expecting the outcome God granted. The best

way I can think of to describe our experience to you is to share a letter my

wife Lucy sent to friends and family the day we received the pathology

reports after what was my eighth surgery in 7 months:

************

From: Lucy

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:03 AM

Subject: Thank You!!

My dear friend,

Please bear with me because this will be a little long. I hope you stay with

me until the end. It's thanks to your consistent love and prayer that there is

laughter in our home today....THANK YOU!!

Last week Sebastian had his 8th surgery this year to remove yet another

tumor and inguinal lymph nodes in his upper thigh. These had been confirmed

as malignant by both MRI and a PET Scan the week before.

We received the Pathology report today and stand in utter AWE of what the

Lord has done.The Pathology report was NEGATIVE i.e. they did not find ANY

cancer!!! The first words out of the mouth of the Nurse Practitioner who

gave Sebastian the results were " Congratulations Sebastian, you can get on

with your life " . Then she went on to say they simply have no explanation of

how this happened. She asked Sebastian what he has been doing/using etc. She

was aware that Sebastian had started drinking a product called Tahitian Noni

Juice about a week after the PET scan when our neighbor provided us

information about its healing benefits for cancer, diabetes, and a host of

other ailments (I know this sounds corny - I was beyond skeptical until I

read research papers and spoke with a doctor at Univ. Illinois Med School

who has been researching Noni for 3 years). We know that the Noni Juice has

been a God-send and answer to prayer for Sebastian's general wellness (ex.he

no longer needs narcotic pain meds), and possibly had a hand in today's

Pathology results. Either way, God is sovereign!

This clean Pathology report has completely baffled all of his doctors and

surgeons at UW Hospital. Each has tried to come up with an explanation

because they've never experienced this before. The Radiation Oncologist

suggested that the MRI could have been a false positive.... but then the PET

scan was positive and consistent with the pattern of spread of clear cell

malignant melanoma. After all, they just removed a malignant tumor in

Sebastian's knee a couple of weeks ago and the one they removed last week

was similar on MRI and was along the same blood line as the first two

malignant tumors. So he's confused. The Orthopedic Oncology Surgeon

suggested that maybe it was just an inflammation and not a tumor... but then

the PET scan was positive and consistent with the pattern of spread of clear

cell malignant melanoma. So he's confused. The Oncology Surgeon is adamant

that this is just not possible and wants a repeat PET scan in 8 weeks. So

he's confused.

This afternoon me and Sebastian went and spent time before the Lord at our

church to thank Him and to lift up all of you for carrying us in prayer

through this very difficult and agonizing time in our family. We simply

cannot thank you enough. We love you and please know that you are in our

prayers ALWAYS. We are aware that there will continue to be more tests but

today we rejoice and praise God for answering the prayers you placed before

him on our behalf.

Words seem so inadequate to express our thanks so I'll end it here. God

bless you always.

Lucy (with tears in her eyes... I love you) )

************

Since my surgery, I have had both a follow-up CT scan and a PET scan. By

God's grace both have been negative! We are thankful. I want to be clear

that I am not making a claim that Tahitian Noni Juice cured my cancer. I can

only say that I had been told that the cancer had overtaken my immune system

and indeed, was literally climbing up my leg. Today, there has been no

detection of cancer cells! I have learned that living cancer free takes a

holistic approach. Good nutrition is important. I have incorporated juicing

into my diet. I juice carrots, spinach, celery, parsley, and other

vegetables daily.

I am eternally grateful to our neighbor, and to our Double Diamond

leader, Jan for supporting us. The daily prayer that Lucy and I have is that

God would send people our way who need Tahitian Noni Juice. The benefits

that we have experienced as well as our friends and family members are

miraculous! The desire of our hearts is to share it with others. Little did

we know that Tahitian Noni Juice and Morinda would become a vital part of

our lives. We were not looking for a " business " yet just for sharing the

juice with others, Morinda's generous compensation plan has rewarded us more

than we ever imagined. Within a month we qualified as Jade distributors and

earned the Top Performer bonus for two consecutive months. However, it is

the phone calls and emails from people receiving benefits from Tahitian Noni

juice that warm our hearts most.

If you are yet to try our fantastic product, please start today. You have

nothing to lose. It may help you too! Morinda backs us up with a 30 day

money back guaranty. If you are already drinking Tahitian Noni juice, I

encourage you to share it with others. There are so many people waiting to

hear " Congratulations..... "

Thanks Noni!

Sebastian Wallang

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>

>Looking for any studies, good websites, organizations, and

>people who work with these issues.

>

>One person believes heavy metal toxicity lead to her cancer.

>She had lead poisoning for sure. She's already done chelation

>and is now working with an alternative practitioner who is on

>the East coast, but would like to do some additional research

>and find a doctor more local. Anyone have some info on this -

>I would guess that this is a contributing factor, but don't

>know the websites off-the-top-of-my-head to refer her to.

>She's in Idaho and I don't know any practitioners in Idaho to

>even put her in touch with.

>

>Another person says she was over radiated. She wants to know

>what she can do immediately to help with this as she says she

>can't even go near or into a building with EMF fields...says

>she can feel them. She says she can't use a computer, phone,

>anything that generates emf fields without getting sick. She

>believes she has skin cancer now, but is having trouble finding

>a doctor to go to that isn't near a power line, that doesn't

>have a bunch of equipment generating emf fields and that they

>all use florescent lights, etc. Anyone have any suggestions

>for her and web pages or sites that give studies on radiation

>exposure causing this kind of a reaction. This person actually

>lives here in Ventura County California and we are not the

>health freedom state that many assume we would be. She is

>pretty sick so I don't know how far she could travel, but any

>suggestions would be appreciated. I am sure there is a lot she

>can also do at home.

>

>Thanks for any input,

>

>Melinda Wiman

>www.cancure.org

>The Cancer Cure Foundation

>(800) 282-2873

>Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer

>or help with side effects of chemo/radiation

>

February 12, 2002