Re: cantron/protocel (was In vitro studies/ Decreasing ATP and coQ10 and Paw Paw

[Guest guest]

Hi Leonard,

> I don't know anything about ATP reduction or substances that affect it,

I am very rusty on the subject, but at one point (years ago) I took it

as far as to read Gilbert Ning Ling's excruciatingly difficult

treatise on the biophysics of ATP. The reason I attempted the feat

was that the Gerson literature which I was exploring at that time

relied heavily on Ning Ling's " alternative biophysics " for a

theoretical basis behind the proposed sodium-potassium/structured

water/ATP model of intracellular events. ATP depletion was associated

with cancer, it was postulated as THE carcinogenic state of the body.

The theory looked convincing and made sense. I didn't understand more

than a percentage of Ning Ling's reasoning (most of his writings is

heavy-duty math) but where it pertains to ATP, it did seem to

transpire that things like some of the ones I've mentioned (e.g.

potassium-rich diets and vegetable juices) will definitely increase

its production. Most of the things on the Cantron " avoid " list fall

into this category as well.

but

> in the Cantron and Protocel literature I've read, it's said only to

> DEFINITELY AVOID Co-Q10, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Selenium, Essiac,

Ozone [and

> ellagic acid]...should probably [also avoid]....IP-6,

L-Carnitine...Flax Oil

> combined with Cottage Cheese[but that's disputed], Glutathione,

Glutamine,

> Sea Silver, Lipoic Acid...Creatine, Taurine, Acetylcystein, L-Cystein,

> Ginseng " (www.outsmartyourcancer.com/eBooklets.shtml, pp. 54-57); 714-X,

> hydrogen peroxide, colloidal silver

> (www.alternativecancer.us/order_c.htm#Avoid). The ebooklet also has

a long

> list of cancer-healing supplements compatible w/Protocel.

That list played a role in my decision, whether right or wrong, to

bypass Protocel. It looked like one would have to use it as a

monotherapy and invest a lot of trust into it. This seemed too risky.

Thanks for the testimonials references though, I'll check them out.

Also, your kind words are much appreciated!

Elena