The Hoxsey Treatment

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The Hoxey formula I use is liquid, comes in a bottle, and must be

diluted. Two ounces formula--fourteen (14) ounces spring or well water.

Dosage: 2 teaspoon tonic, 1/3 glass of water or fruit juice 4 times

daily. I primarily use pure grape juice if available because of it's

enhancement of the formula.

I DO NOT KNOW OF ANYTHING I HEARD OR READ FROM THIS FROM THIS GROUP TO

BE FACTUAL, AND THAT INCLUDES HOXEY, BUDWIG, CLARK, AND dr JR. There are

too many parameters and variables needed to validate any of these

theories.

Finally, (if we want to be honest) MOST of us are in this group because

we have cancer, we are looking for a quick buck, or we're egotistical

maniacs with a patent on universal knowledge. Unfortunately, we have to

deal with this group inorder to get good unbiased non-vindictive,

non-subjective info from the small munber of those with an honest

concern for our well being.

All The Best

Rich

PS In a recent posting a person pleading for help advised to use flax

oil and cottage cheese. She indicated strongly that she was allergic to

dairy products. Instead of reccommending an alternative (Laetrile,

Hoxey, , etc.), some of you proceeded with your all or nothing

ultimatum. This is rediculous. Nothing can be 100% suitable for

everyone.

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If you doubt what I told you is factual just

ask Mildred's sister who now runs the clinic

and whom I met when I was there in 92,

(she was visiting at the time) about me, Jerry

Rollins from Dallas (at the time). And you still

won't comment on side effects from estrogen

you might be having or any of the other things

I covered. Perhaps because you can't do so

intelligently. The hormone covers symptoms

and that's why SPES can also be dangerous to take.

Although Spes is a natural hormone it's been

proven that the cancer can progress even

though the PSA is low and you won't know about it until it may be too

late. You are certainly not doing anything wrong in taking and

believing in the Hoxsey. But would it hurt to

question those doctors and try some other non-conflicting remedies

also? Of course this

might require more effort on your part than

you're capable of. Just remember that after

2 years or so of covering symptoms with the

hormone you could have one hell of a cancer

and you wouldn't know it by the PSA. I stopped taking it for one month

to prove the

point and my PSA shot up. By the way thanks

for refering to me as " dr " but that requires a

capital " D " . And if you don' t believe anyone

else about Hoxsey how come you believe the

doctors there. I'll wager they never told you

about the estrogen at all. But you won't

comment will you?

The Hoxey formula I use is liquid, comes in a bottle, and must be

diluted. Two ounces formula--fourteen (14) ounces spring or well water.

Dosage: 2 teaspoon tonic, 1/3 glass of water or fruit juice 4 times

daily. I primarily use pure grape juice if available because of it's

enhancement of the formula.

I DO NOT KNOW OF ANYTHING I HEARD OR READ FROM THIS FROM THIS GROUP TO

BE FACTUAL, AND THAT INCLUDES HOXEY, BUDWIG, CLARK, AND dr JR. There are

too many parameters and variables needed to validate any of these

theories.

Finally, (if we want to be honest) MOST of us are in this group because

we have cancer, we are looking for a quick buck, or we're egotistical

maniacs with a patent on universal knowledge. Unfortunately, we have to

deal with this group inorder to get good unbiased non-vindictive,

non-subjective info from the small munber of those with an honest

concern for our well being.

All The Best

Rich

PS In a recent posting a person pleading for help advised to use flax

oil and cottage cheese. She indicated strongly that she was allergic to

dairy products. Instead of reccommending an alternative (Laetrile,

Hoxey, , etc.), some of you proceeded with your all or nothing

ultimatum. This is rediculous. Nothing can be 100% suitable for

everyone.

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By the way, and I know many will think this

unfairly insulting because many are not as

literate as others on the site, its about time

you learned how to spell Hoxsey if you're going

to take the stuff. Since almost everyone has spellcheck with their

computer only laziness is

an excuse for poor spelling.....and that's what

really bugs me. I don't know how many emails

I've responded to with requests for info about

products, phone numbers, prices, etc. when

they could certainly look under " search "

themselves. I'm almost 70 and a good mental

match (like a good chess game) keeps me

feeling young (mentally at least), why shouldn't

you have the same pleasure.

The Hoxey formula I use is liquid, comes in a bottle, and must be

diluted. Two ounces formula--fourteen (14) ounces spring or well water.

Dosage: 2 teaspoon tonic, 1/3 glass of water or fruit juice 4 times

daily. I primarily use pure grape juice if available because of it's

enhancement of the formula.

I DO NOT KNOW OF ANYTHING I HEARD OR READ FROM THIS FROM THIS GROUP TO

BE FACTUAL, AND THAT INCLUDES HOXEY, BUDWIG, CLARK, AND dr JR. There are

too many parameters and variables needed to validate any of these

theories.

Finally, (if we want to be honest) MOST of us are in this group because

we have cancer, we are looking for a quick buck, or we're egotistical

maniacs with a patent on universal knowledge. Unfortunately, we have to

deal with this group inorder to get good unbiased non-vindictive,

non-subjective info from the small munber of those with an honest

concern for our well being.

All The Best

Rich

PS In a recent posting a person pleading for help advised to use flax

oil and cottage cheese. She indicated strongly that she was allergic to

dairy products. Instead of reccommending an alternative (Laetrile,

Hoxey, , etc.), some of you proceeded with your all or nothing

ultimatum. This is rediculous. Nothing can be 100% suitable for

everyone.

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Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise

If possible, have a great day. I heard fishing is great this time of

year in Texas.

[Guest guest]

Sed me to the principal's ( oops, did I spell the correct one) office

master.

happy cat fishin

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En excerpt from the book :

" ALTERNATIVES IN CANCER THERAPY "

by Ross, R.Ph. Pelton, Lee Overholser (Contributor)

see here http://www.amazon.com ($9.80)

The Hoxsey Treatment

PERHAPS NO PROMOTER of an alternative cancer treatment has fought longer and

harder against the authorities of establishment medicine than Harry Hoxsey did

while he was alive. There is a strong tendency for those on both sides, the

establishment and the unconventional approaches to cancer treatment, to impugn

the motives of the other and to claim to be the exclusive standard bearer of

honest, untainted concern for the cancer patient. Often those on both sides are

sincere in their beliefs, and this can certainly be said about Hoxsey.

Background

The story begins in the spring of 1840, when Harry Hoxsey's great-grandfather

had a prize horse with a cancerous growth on its leg, a condition for

which the local veterinarian had no cure. He decided to let nature take its

course and let the animal roam free in the pasture. Amazingly, the cancer

shrank, hardened, and fell off. Hoxsey noticed that the animal went to a

certain corner of the pasture and ate a variety of plants— red clover, alfalfa,

buckthorn, prickly ash, and others. By treating various sick horses in the area

with different formulas derived from these herbs, he developed external and

internal treatments for cancer and other ailments, which he later used to treat

humans. The formula was passed down from father to son until in 1919 it arrived

in Harry Hoxsey's hands with the admonition to use it even if opposed by the

" high priests of medicine. "

Attack and Counterattack

In his autobiography, You Don't Have to Die, Hoxsey details how he began

opening

cancer clinics in the 1920s until he operated one of the largest outpatient

clinics for cancer in Dallas in the early 1950s, with branches in seventeen

states. (6) He lost few opportunities for challenging the medical establishment

and promoting his own cures.

The battle between Hoxsey and the medical establishment shows how nasty such

fights can become. Fishbein, editor of the Journal of the American

Medical Association, published articles denouncing Hoxsey and his late

father as

charlatans. In his book Hoxsey quotes from one such article, in the American

Weekly, by Fishbein and Engle:

All the other wicked medical fakes, firing hope and darkening it to despair,

pale beside the savagery of the cancer charlatans. They look like men, they

speak like men, but in them, pervading them, resides a quality so malevolent

that it sets them apart from others of the human race....

They slay their patients as guiltily as if they knifed them in the heart, and

they stay within the letter of the law. (6)

The article goes on to specifically name Hoxsey and his treatment. For his

part, Hoxsey responded with as much emotion in his characterization of

Fishbein:

The distinguished author [Fishbein] had inherited from his spiritual father the

technique of the big lie: " Make up a lie that's big enough, repeat it often

enough and people will believe it! " Adolf Hitler was dead, but the Hitler of

American medicine ranted on. (6)

Hoxsey filed a lawsuit for libel, which he won. However, the battle continued

until repeated arrests and nationwide attacks by the FDA forced Hoxsey to close

his clinics in the U.S. in the

late 1950s. In 1963 Mildred , Hoxsey's chief nurse, opened the

Bio-Medical Center in Tijuana, Mexico, which still offers the Hoxsey treatment.

Certainly the war between Harry Hoxsey and the FDA left no room for learned and

temperate discussion. The point of unearthing this old argument is to

illustrate the emotions involved on both sides. To this day the intensity of

the discussion has hardly subsided when the topic comes up.

A 1990 article in CA—A Cancer Journal for Clinicians relies on unproved

allegations to denounce the Hoxsey treatment, concluding, " The Hoxsey medicine

for cancer has been extensively tested and found to be both useless (the

internal treatments) and archaic (the external treatments). " (14) These

statements are simply not true. There has been no definitive study of the

formula, but there are several studies that indicate that some of its

ingredients may have antitumor effects.

The external treatment that is referred to is a caustic solution developed by

Dr. Frederic Mohs in the 1940s for treating skin cancers. This caustic

preparation is different from the herbal preparation that is sometimes applied

externally. Dr. Mohs later discontinued the use of his formula, and it is

rarely used by any practitioners today. (11, 12) His microsurgery technique for

removing skin cancers is still in use.

Summary

This sad tale shows the worst of both the establishment and unconventional

proponents of cancer treatment. The intensity of the antagonism prevented both

sides from engaging in constructive activities, and the conflict has

degenerated into a series of brutal attacks—both verbal and legal. Somewhere in

the middle of this the real interests of the patients were forgotten. The story

of Harry Hoxsey is a cautionary tale for all involved in investigating the

treatment of cancer, whatever their opinions and orientation.

Biological Action

The formula used by Mildred at the Tijuana center (5) contains:

· Trifolium pratense (red clover)

· Arctium lappa (burdock root)

· Berberis vulgaris (barberry bark)

· Glycyrrhiza glabra (licorice root)

· Rhamnus purshiana (buckthorn)

· Zanthoxylum americana (prickly ash)

· Larrea tridentata (chaparral)

· Stillingia sylvatica (stillingia)

· Picramnia antidesma (cascara amarga)

· Potassium iodide

Burdock root has shown antitumor effects in animal studies (7, 8), while two

other studies were without effect. (9, 15) A constituent of buckthorn,

aloe-emodin, had antitumor activity in tests. (10) Another ingredient, cascara,

also contains aloe-emodin, but one test with powdered cascara showed no

antitumor activity in an animal test. (1) The fact that a particular animal

test shows no antitumor activity does not indicate that a compound is without

anticancer effect. Different types of cancer react differently. Studies have

shown antitumor effects with extracts of barberry. (2, 4) The OTA report states

that components of prickly ash (chelerythrine and nitidine) and of stillingia

(gnidi-latidin) have shown positive antitumor activities in animal tests. (13)

Chaparral was added to the list by Mildred and is covered in detail in

the chapter on that herbal remedy. The other ingredients, red clover, licorice

root, and potassium iodide, have not demonstrated antitumor effects in tests.

The clinical evidence is not conclusive. While there is some indication that

the components of the Hoxsey formula may have antitumor effects, there are no

published studies of the formula itself. There may be synergistic effects

between the various components, but without tests, one cannot say.

Clinical Trials

The only clinical evidence for the effectiveness of the Hoxsey treatment comes

from the studies of Harry Hoxsey himself. In his book he presents several case

studies that are supposed to be definitive cancer cures; however, it is

difficult to evaluate these reports without independent confirmation. (6)

Hoxsey wanted the NCI to review his patients records, for he sincerely believed

he was curing people. In 1945 he submitted records of sixty patients, and in

1955 he submitted seventy-seven more cases. It was his contention that all were

examples of successful treatment of cancer. The upshot was that the NCI

contended that his treatments could not be evaluated because the records were

incomplete or inconclusive. For his part, Hoxsey countered that the NCI refused

to render an opinion because of a conspiracy against him by the AMA. This is

where the matter stands today.

Side Effects

There are no reports of side effects or toxicity in the medical literature. One

of the ingredients, licorice root, has produced adverse effects when taken in

massive amounts. Another, pokeroot, can be toxic, but is not included in the

current formulation. (3) It is unlikely that the level of the herbs taken in

the formula would be harmful unless large amounts were consumed.

Dosage

The Hoxsey clinic recommends taking 1 or 2 teaspoonfuls of the powdered formula

in a glass of hot or cold water two or more times daily. The use of the

external treatments has largely been discontinued, because they are so harsh

and painful; therefore they are not covered here.

En excerpt from the book :

" ALTERNATIVES IN CANCER THERAPY "

by Ross, R.Ph. Pelton, Lee Overholser (Contributor)

see here http://www.amazon.com ($9.80)

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Sorry but every time you reply you exhibit

superior ignorance.

Sed me to the principal's ( oops, did I spell the correct one) office

master.

happy cat fishin

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Where can I get the hoxsey formula ?

[Guest guest]

Was it all that superior intelligence you posess that allowed you to

swallow 70 packs of nutra sweet while drinking a quart of embalming

fluid for 10 days as another sure fire cancer cure? I said nothing is

100%. I take that back. You are. You've been wrong every time. Keep

posting. All of that superior intelligence is REALLY becoming very

clear.

[Guest guest]

In pilot training they taught about CR's..

calculated risks. Anything I took was carefully

planned with antedotes where necessary.

Pay attention to what others are saying about

your closed mind on this site if you are not

too insensitive to pick it up. You make generalized nonfactual remarks

that you seem

to enjoy...you probably laugh at your own

jokes..if you know any. You are so out of it

that I will no longer waste my time with a fool.

By not proceeding with your treatment with

an open, inquiring mind, you certainly need

faith more than anything. And you still have

not countered one medical fact presented by

me. You just bluster on in an extremely red-

neck fashion. Good luck anyway and goodby.

JR

Was it all that superior intelligence you posess that allowed you to

swallow 70 packs of nutra sweet while drinking a quart of embalming

fluid for 10 days as another sure fire cancer cure? I said nothing is

100%. I take that back. You are. You've been wrong every time. Keep

posting. All of that superior intelligence is REALLY becoming very

clear.

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You shouldn't be so hard on yourself. however you certainly gave and has

been giving a perfect description of yourself with each of your childish

posting. And, as you are again displaying your superior intelligence

with your decision with the fluid and sugar you should ask how many of

the people you spoke were willing to join you. Are you politicing for

help? Keep seaching. Peace is out there. Playing God to a group of

adults is beyond your scope.