Re: Alpha-Omega/Risingsun Health: Reply from Risingsun

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> I thank you for your e-mail. There had been a problem with a

> lab that

> Alpha Omega recommened. It seems that what was on the lable was not

> in the

> product.

I am confused. Are you saying that RisingSun is recommended/licensed by

Alpha Omega labs to produce Cansema products? Is the term Cansema

a trademark?

turf

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It is not a trademark to my knowledge. Risingsun at one time distributed

Alpha Omega products, but now does not. It apparently is selling a line of

Cansema products made by AO's former suppliers.

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> I thank you for your e-mail. There had been a problem with a

> lab that

> Alpha Omega recommened. It seems that what was on the lable was not

> in the

> product.

I am confused. Are you saying that RisingSun is recommended/licensed by

Alpha Omega labs to produce Cansema products? Is the term Cansema

a trademark?

turf

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[Guest guest]

-I don´t understand this, is message 11570 you said you had nothing

to do with the -rising sun- staff but now you talk as one of their

staff if not the boss. I must say that I find the accusations

against Alpha Omega poor. Something about labels and inaccuaracy. I

am sure they had the " vital " indigrients over the line otherwise the

products couldn´t have worked so well. And firearms. Aren´t they in

everyother house in America and an affair separated from the AO

business.I think that AO have tried to get FDA approval for many

years but couldn´t. But now suddenly FDA is approving a diffrent

company with the same formula. Why wouldn´t they work with AO. Are

not everybody even. Doesn´t this prove that there was nothing wrong

really with their goods. Or what I dont´t know. But I thing they

should be allowed to be on the market if - rising sun - is allowed

it.

-- In , " charlesmturn " <charlesmt@h...>

wrote:

>

>

> I thank you for your e-mail. There had been a problem with a

> lab that

> Alpha Omega recommened. It seems that what was on the lable was

not

> in the

> product. Therefore, we had to destroy all of the products we had

> recieved

> from the lab. That was over $30,000 worth of products. We now

have

> two FDA

> approved labs putting the formulas together. Those who have

ordered

> we have

> been contacting. Those that have ordered are getting the products

> and those

> that wish to have a refund get it.

> The latest information I have from the FDA agent involved in

the

> Alpha

> Omega incident is that the owner is pleading guilty to possession

of

> firearms as a convicted federal felon. From what I have found out

> he is not

> getting sentenced for any FDA violations yet. The issue the FDA

had

> was the

> product lables and ingredient rations. H3O test showed ratios of

> sulphuric

> acid from 8% to over 14%.

> If any of those in your chat room have an issue. Tell them to

> contact

> us. We have 3 phone lines. I apologize for the incident. The

other

> problem is that Alpha pirated most of the product formulas from

other

> companies, now I am trying to resolve that issue. I believe that

> the person

> who developed the formulas should be justly copmpensated.

> I will follow up this e-mail with a call.

[Guest guest]

>said that Risingsun not only has no

>product to sell; they don't even answer their emails. I wrote to

>Risingsun and the message I posted is the Risingsun reply. The

>words are all his, not mine. ...

> [ " the words from Risingsun " are in the following e-mail]

> ... I have stated two or three times

>that I am making no personal judgements until the truth is fully

>out there. I don't care which company is the more honest; I just

>want my Cansema products back. It is not my purpose here to argue

>and to condemn, but to find the whole truth so that we may safely

>buy what we need to restore our health.

This sounds funny since I get daily emails of complaints about Mr.

McAdam. As a matter of fact I got a 2 page letter today about how

Mr. McAdam charges people's credit cards and doesn't have the

product to send. This person also said that she has tried to

contact Mr. McAdam (making no less than 100 phone calls since she

placed her order, which she hasn't gotten). The complaints roll in

about Mr. McAdam...every single day!

1. He charges cards and doesn't send product or sends out something

than what they believed they were getting.

2. He continues to make excuses, but does little to actually

help people.

3. He still owes Alpha Omega Labs well over $5000. for products that

we sent to his customers.

4. He does not answer his phones, replies to emails or even returns

a fax when contacts. (I myself have tried to contact him over 300

or 400 times since 09/17/04, and have gotten maybe 2 replies.

Usually saying... " I'll get back to you " .

5. I have had so many complaints about Mr. McAdam and his money

making tactics that I have had to create an entire file devoted to

only complaints about the man.

>I thank you for your e-mail. There had been a problem with a

>lab that Alpha Omega recommened.

I have no idea what he's talking about there and I doubt

that he has any idea as well. We produced the Cansema at our own

Lab. We have had products that we private labeled...but we

don't " recommend " other Labs. I'm not sure where he gets this

information.

>It seems that what was on the lable was not in the product.

Mr. McAdam mentions inaccuracies in ingredient labeling and

inconsistencies in the concentration of products. The only accused

inaccuracy that we are aware of is regarding the H3O. We purchased

the H3O product from a company in California to private label. We

received all labeling information from that company, including

ingredient listings. We would like to think that the maker of H3O

simply misinformed us if the accusations of inconsistencies are

true; however, we have seen nothing but successful results in the

use of the H3O.

>Therefore, we had to destroy all of the products we had recieved

>from the lab. That was over $30,000 worth of products.

What products is he talking about? Mr. McAdam NEVER received ANY

products from our company or our Lab. He would call his orders in

to us and we would ship them out. In the beginning Mr. McAdam was

on a N30 basis...meaning...we would ship the products out to his

customers, he would get paid right away and then he had 30 days to

pay us back. Within 3 months Mr. McAdam was well over $15,000. in

debt to us and apparently had no intention of paying us until we

stopped the future and pending orders. We didn't understand how Mr.

McAdam was getting paid for each order and was unable to pay his

bills. Even to this day, Mr. McAdam owes us almost $6,000. and I

know that it isn't because our prices were to high...he has actually

complained to our customers and his own customers that our prices

were too low. Point to my story...Mr. McAdam never had $30,000

worth of product to destroy. He never had five dollars worth of

products to destroy.

>We now have two FDA approved labs putting the formulas together.

Yes, he says that he has a new Lab creating the formulas...however,

he does not have the actual formulas. This isn't to say that his

formulas won't be effective. I don't know...I have never used any

of his recreated formulas.

>Those who have ordered we have been contacting. Those that have

>ordered are getting the products and those that wish to have a

>refund get it.

We have had no less than 1 or 2 complaints a day stating otherwise.

People haven't been getting their emails responded to, and contrary

to their claims that they have new offices and additional phone

lines the phones ring off the hook with no answer. People are

frustrated that it takes weeks or even months to get a response out

of Mr. McAdam and that is if he feels like picking up the phone.

>The latest information I have from the FDA agent involved in the

>Alpha Omega incident is that the owner is pleading guilty to

>possession of firearms as a convicted federal felon.

This is incorrect. Mr. Caton hasn't pleaded guilty to anything at

this time. As a matter of fact, this charge may be thrown out. I

will get more into the " convicted felon " part later.

>From what I have found out he is not getting sentenced for any FDA

>violations yet. The issue the FDA had was the product lables and

>ingredient rations. H3O test showed ratios of sulphuric acid from

>8% to over 14%.

H3O product from a company in California to private label. We

received all labeling information from that company, including

ingredient listings. Although the H3O does test out analytically as

9.4% sulfuric, it is actually a patented product that has been

extensively tested for safety and has OSHA's approval. It is no more

corrosive than water, and is not required to have special labeling

when shipped. The testing that is required for OSHA proved that it

is non-caustic and non-corrosive. We would like to think that the

maker of H3O simply misinformed us if the accusations of

inconsistencies are true; however, we have seen nothing but

successful results in the use of the H3O.

>If any of those in your chat room have an issue. Tell them to

>contact us. We have 3 phone lines. I apologize for the incident.

>The other problem is that Alpha pirated most of the product

>formulas from other companies, now I am trying to resolve that

>issue.

This is a lie. Although not all of our products were developed by

Greg Caton, the Cansema Salve was! We never hid the fact that we

private labeled (with the original formulator's permission) some of

our products like Old Amish Dewormer, Cansema Capsules, Gotas Drops,

etc. We have always searched for products that have been shown very

effective and have offered those products to our customers at a very

low affordable price.

>I believe that the person who developed the formulas should be

>justly copmpensated.

The person who has formulated the Cansema Salve IS Greg Caton. If

Mr. McAdam is refering to Ackerson (Greg Caton's former

partner) than he has allowed Mr. Ackerson to deceive him. Mr.

Ackerson is the reason why Mr. Caton is a convicted felon. It was

Mr. Ackerson's idea to conterfiet money and Mr. Caton broke off all

contact and disolved the partnership as soon as he was aware of his

intentions. However, while Mr. Ackerson was investigated it came

out that Mr. Caton knew what Mr. Ackerson planned to do and didn't

go to the police. Mr. Caton was arrested for " conspiracy " for not

going to the police and released the same day. Although Mr. Caton

plead guilty for knowing what Mr. Ackerson planned to do and

disolved the partnership, he failed to notify the authorities. Mr.

Caton did not spend any jail time because of it, although he greatly

regrets the mistakes he made. So when Mr. Caton formulated the

Cansema products Mr. Ackerson was around. He has tried to start his

own web site several years ago after he was run out of town (for

crimes against a child) and was arrested yet again for child

pornography.

Yes, Mr. Caton is a convicted felon due to a mistake that he

made...the mistake...being partners with Mr. Ackerson and not

notifying the authorities.

>I will follow up this e-mail with a call.

It drives me crazy that this has turned out to be a mud slinging

tournament. However, I will defend the name of the company that has

saved my Mother. The Cansema products shrank a tumor in my Mother's

brain. I started working here shortly after. I admire Greg Caton

and the fact that he offers alternatives and options at such a low

price.

As stated on our web site...If you are concerned with anything or

have any questions, simply contact us…unlike Mr. McAdam we answer

the phone and respond to our emails…we will answer any question that

you have.

Wishing you good health and happiness,

Tabetha LeDoux

Customer Relations Specialist

Alpha Omega Labs

(888) 220-6780

jayde@...

www.altcancer.com

[Guest guest]

> I am confused. Are you saying that RisingSun is

recommended/licensed by Alpha Omega labs to produce Cansema

products?

No...they are not. They were our American distributor when we were

still open. However, since the FDA shut down. Mr. McAdam has been

charging people's credit cards and not sending out any products.

Or, more importantly, he does not have and Alpha Omega Products, and

his web site is deceiving. It is a mirror image of Alpha Omega Labs

and he refuses to change it.

>Is the term Cansema a trademark?

Yes it is...but our lawyers will handle that.

> turf

Tabetha

Alpha Omega Labs