Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Hi, This is the first I have heard of Flaxseed Oil causing any problem with gallbladder. This isn't a strange drug. This is a food that used to be in our diets more than it is now mainly because of our food processing and use of hydrogenated oils. I am wondering if some doctor is using that as an excuse to get them off flax oil. I am not an expert and am not practicing medicine. We have simply observed and told of things that have happened. We have not omitted anything unfavorable, but there has been very little that is unfavorable. Over the years I have known of a number of folks using flax oil who have been outright lied to by doctors in an attempt to get them off flax oil and on chemo or radiation. To the question. From what I have been led to believe there is danger in the over use of ground flax seeds because of the possible danger from Cyaninde precursors in the seeds which do not get in the oil. However, I am not an expert here. Years ago I understood that Dr. Budwig said that three level tablespoons of flaxseed ground per day was fine, but more than that could be dangerous over a period of time. That would be about 9 level tablespoons of flax flour. I did that for awhile. However, that would be the equivalent of only one tablespoon of flax oil and that would be much to little if there were anything serious involved. Four tablespoons a day has shown very good results from what we have seen in a lot of situations. That would twelve level tablespoons of seeds. That would be a lot of flax flour and I don't believe anyone is doing that much. I would like to know more about the use of flax oil causing problems with a gallbladder. That is news to me. If the gall stones could be removed that might solve the problem. I am wondering about a second opinion. There is at least one clinic and one laboratory in Michigan {I don't know its name} that are using flaxseed oil prominently in their treatments. I am wondering if they are haveing any gallbladder problems. Cliff Budwig Got an email today from someone with the following question: " ...We want to give my father the 'Budwig Diet (flax seed oil and cottage cheese).' We were actually giving him that until he had a gall stone attack because the oil triggers the gall bladder and he's had stones in it for some time. I want to find out if we can continue this diet using flax seeds and cottage cheese instead of the oil. " Any thoughts? Melinda Wiman www.cancure.org The Cancer Cure Foundation (800) 282-2873 Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer for Sid Giovanni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Maybe a gallbladder cleanse would be helpful. ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Melinda Wiman " <wiman@...> Reply- <cures for cancer >, < > Subject: [ ] Budwig Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:57:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [216.115.96.61] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBDD86E8100B4400431E2D873603D0B6E230; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 23:54:45 -0800 Received: from [216.115.97.187] by n11. with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2001 07:53:33 -0000 Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 6 Dec 2001 07:53:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 97510 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 07:53:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv. with QMQP; 6 Dec 2001 07:53:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mtapop1pub.verizon.net) (206.46.170.34) by mta1.grp.snv. with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 07:53:31 -0000 Received: from WORLDWIND (calnet30-179.gtecablemodem.com [207.175.253.179])by mtapop1pub.verizon.net with SMTP; id BAA13321606Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:53:29 -0600 (CST) From sentto-106033-4527-1007625212-blisbomber Wed, 05 Dec 2001 23:56:16 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-106033-4527-1007625212-blisbomber=hotmail.com@... X-Sender: wiman@... X-Apparently- Message-ID: <354901c17e2b$97027a20$b3fdafcf@...> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Delivered-mailing list Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribe > Got an email today from someone with the following question: " ...We want to give my father the 'Budwig Diet (flax seed oil and cottage cheese).' We were actually giving him that until he had a gall stone attack because the oil triggers the gall bladder and he's had stones in it for some time. I want to find out if we can continue this diet using flax seeds and cottage cheese instead of the oil. " Any thoughts? Melinda Wiman www.cancure.org The Cancer Cure Foundation (800) 282-2873 Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer for Sid Giovanni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 He must do liver/gb cleanse, if he wants to be healthy. You can not overcome cancer with liver and GB full of stones. Direct him to these archives: gallstones-testimonials/messages gallstones/messages http://curezone.com/gallstones/default.asp http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/default.asp http://curezone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ http://curezone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ Agnes At 16:53 06.12.2001 +0000, you wrote: >Maybe a gallbladder cleanse would be helpful. >----Original Message Follows---- > " ...We want to give my father the 'Budwig Diet (flax seed oil and cottage >cheese).' We were actually giving him that until he had a gall stone attack >because the oil triggers the gall bladder and he's had stones in it for some >time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Sid's father has a very cancerous liver in addition to numerous other problems in that area. Assuming that his acute problem is one of gall stones, he might consider coffee enemas which are traditionally believed to help flush the liver and relax the sphincter of Odi. Some successful bile flushes use olive oil with lemon juice, so it may be helpful to add lemon juice to his protocol. Various formulations can quickly be found on the net. A little known but effective aid for gall stone pain is the use of a single half teaspoon of dried and powdered pomegranate peel. Pomegranates are at the end of the harvest in the US and are readily available in supermarkets. If his problem is with the lactose then he might add lactase to the mix. With advanced liver cancer there is often a problem with processing ammonia. This is manifest both in blood tests and by patient confusion. Usually this is resolved with retention enemas of lactulose, neomycin, and in this case taurine and a conjugated flax oil might prove useful. I have received criticism from Moran that I don't share enough information. He is correct. A near-perfect analogy would be that of a chef who won't share a suffle recipe. Something tells me that a treatment won't be performed appropriately or done correctly and I'll be blamed, sued, or worse. Then there is always an allopath who demands formal studies that have appeared in peer-reviewed journals that are subsidized by advertising from pharmaceutical manufacturers. There are many things that are routinely done in clinics in the developing world that are cheap, safe, and usually effective. No one really thinks about these things as they have been done this way for decades. US medicine which sets the standard for the world is widely believed to be in the thrall of the pharmaceutical manufactures, so no one expects to see any real use of herbal or alternative medicine in US hospitals. Because of a grass roots demand for natural meds, many allopaths and hospitals are now adding natural medicines to their advertising. This is almost always some form of what is considered to be " comfort medicine " ie, messages and fragrances. This is well and good, but these things won't rip out cancers. I will believe that the US hospitals are sincere about testing alternative cancer treatments when they do an honest reassessment and modernization of escharotics. [ ] Budwig > Got an email today from someone with the following question: > > " ...We want to give my father the 'Budwig Diet (flax seed oil and cottage cheese).' We were actually giving him that until he had a gall stone attack because the oil triggers the gall bladder and he's had stones in it for some time. I want to find out if we can continue this diet using flax seeds and cottage cheese instead of the oil. " > > Any thoughts? > > Melinda Wiman > www.cancure.org > The Cancer Cure Foundation > (800) 282-2873 > Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer > > for Sid Giovanni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Sid's father has a very cancerous liver in addition to numerous other problems in that area. Assuming that his acute problem is one of gall stones, he might consider coffee enemas which are traditionally believed to help flush the liver and relax the sphincter of Odi. Some successful bile flushes use olive oil with lemon juice, so it may be helpful to add lemon juice to his protocol. Various formulations can quickly be found on the net. A little known but effective aid for gall stone pain is the use of a single half teaspoon of dried and powdered pomegranate peel. Pomegranates are at the end of the harvest in the US and are readily available in supermarkets. If his problem is with the lactose then he might add lactase to the mix. With advanced liver cancer there is often a problem with processing ammonia. This is manifest both in blood tests and by patient confusion. Usually this is resolved with retention enemas of lactulose, neomycin, and in this case taurine and a conjugated flax oil might prove useful. I have received criticism from Moran that I don't share enough information. He is correct. A near-perfect analogy would be that of a chef who won't share a suffle recipe. Something tells me that a treatment won't be performed appropriately or done correctly and I'll be blamed, sued, or worse. Then there is always an allopath who demands formal studies that have appeared in peer-reviewed journals that are subsidized by advertising from pharmaceutical manufacturers. There are many things that are routinely done in clinics in the developing world that are cheap, safe, and usually effective. No one really thinks about these things as they have been done this way for decades. US medicine which sets the standard for the world is widely believed to be in the thrall of the pharmaceutical manufactures, so no one expects to see any real use of herbal or alternative medicine in US hospitals. Because of a grass roots demand for natural meds, many allopaths and hospitals are now adding natural medicines to their advertising. This is almost always some form of what is considered to be " comfort medicine " ie, messages and fragrances. This is well and good, but these things won't rip out cancers. I will believe that the US hospitals are sincere about testing alternative cancer treatments when they do an honest reassessment and modernization of escharotics. [ ] Budwig > Got an email today from someone with the following question: > > " ...We want to give my father the 'Budwig Diet (flax seed oil and cottage cheese).' We were actually giving him that until he had a gall stone attack because the oil triggers the gall bladder and he's had stones in it for some time. I want to find out if we can continue this diet using flax seeds and cottage cheese instead of the oil. " > > Any thoughts? > > Melinda Wiman > www.cancure.org > The Cancer Cure Foundation > (800) 282-2873 > Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer > > for Sid Giovanni > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 I'd say it was probably the cottage cheese and not the flax seed oil that caused the gallbladder problems. Animal products cause gallstones, pure and simple. Oil helps the gallbadder excrete the stones. > Got an email today from someone with the following question: > > " ...We want to give my father the 'Budwig Diet (flax seed oil and cottage cheese).' We were actually giving him that until he had a gall stone attack because the oil triggers the gall bladder and he's had stones in it for some time. I want to find out if we can continue this diet using flax seeds and cottage cheese instead of the oil. " > > Any thoughts? > > Melinda Wiman > www.cancure.org > The Cancer Cure Foundation > (800) 282-2873 > Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating cancer > > for Sid Giovanni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 Hi , I have been hoping you would elaborate on your opinion/experience with escharotics since you posted this statement. Sounds like you have seen some good results with them. .....Because of a > grass roots demand for natural meds, many allopaths and hospitals are now > adding natural medicines to their advertising. This is almost always some > form of what is considered to be " comfort medicine " ie, messages and > fragrances. This is well and good, but these things won't rip out cancers. > I will believe that the US hospitals are sincere about testing alternative > cancer treatments when they do an honest reassessment and modernization of > escharotics. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 In a message dated 4/21/2005 7:10:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, eve@... writes: the Budwig protocol uses different amounts of fo/cc depending upon body weight. Eve: That makes perfect sense to me. With chemotherapy or other conventional medicine, the dosage is based on your weight, and also your tolerance. When I was on chemotherapy for 14 months for stage IV breast cancer, my dosages were revised 3-4 times even though they were initially based on body weight. Your particular body sensibilities come into play also. Esther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Dear Eve: Do you have a copy of the appropriate dosage of flax oil per pound???? Dottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 > Dear Eve: > Do you have a copy of the appropriate dosage of flax oil per pound???? > Dottie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 I recently came upon one of her cookbooks and numerous recipes had only flax seed oil and no dairy. I thought that the two had to be used in combination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 szukipoo wrote: >I recently came upon one of her cookbooks and numerous recipes had only flax > seed oil and no dairy. I thought that the two had to be used in combination? > >--------------------- Hi , The typical day in the Budwig diet for someone who is unwell includes Flaxseed Oil and Cottage Cheese or Quark at breakfast with fruit, at lunch as a salad dressing with apple cidar vinegar or lemon, and again as a lunch dessert with fruit. There are three servings a day. For dinner the flax oil/cottage cheese combination is not served. So, the cookbook [and there is only one by Dr. Budwig] has recipes for salads and vegetable dressings that can be used at dinner that do not include cottage cheese or quark. At dinner she recommends coconut oil and flaxseed oil as a substitute for butter. She also offers other oil combinations for salads. There are 500 recipes in " The Oil-Protein Diet Cookbook. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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