Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Toni, I have been researching PawPaw quite a bit of late as well and have not found too much information on it except for the audio and video lectures on www.pawpaw.tv and the articles on alternativecancer.us and cancertutor.com. The lectures on PawPaw TV have a lot of information on how pawpaw works, typical dose, things to avoid and the lectures are by Jerry McLaughlin. One thing that has been mentioned in the PawPaw research is that the twigs appear to be more potent than the leaves. Hope this helps, Pooja --- Toni s wrote: > I live in Australia where in the summer, which is > now, paw paw trees grow. I had a friend 20 years > ago who had Hodgkins Lymphoma and had had chemo, > radiation and only had a few weeks to live. She was > told to take as much paw paw tea as she could and > oxygen drops. You make the tea by boiling up the > leaves for 1-2 hours and then drink a glass every > few hours. > Well she is still alive today and swears the paw > paws as she did not do anything else except oxygen > drops. > Now I have a friend with stage 3 breast cancer which > has invaded the chest wall and she gets water in the > pleura which has cancer cells in it. She is > drinking a fair amount a day (I would like her to > drink more). So we are hoping. > I have researched every site possible on the > internet and there is not a lot of information there > for paw paw tea - only products made by Natures > Sunshine etc. > Does anyone else have any other knowledge they could > contribute, especially as to dosage and frequency. > One site did say it was like Protecel in that it > stops energy getting into the cancer cells and that > it should be taken in the same way i.e. every 4 > hours. > Also it is thought not to take antioxidants such as > Co Q10 with it as that puts energy into the cancer > when the paw paw is stopping it. Something like > that anyway. > Toni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Toni, You may like to read the following testimony: From: " Cliff Beckwith " Date: Sat Dec 8, 2001 11:57 pm Subject: Lymphoma About 13 weeks ago a girl in our area was found to have non hodgkins Lymphoma. There were two lumps on her neck and a mass in her chest. Her father was an engineer and a customer of a man in our church who filled him in on the flaxseed oil protocol. 'The doctors started chemo and her father started her on 6 tablespoons per day of Flaxseed oil with cottage cheese[divided into several separate servings during the day with fruits or vegetables]. Within two weeks the lumps on her neck were gone and the mass in her chest was reduced by 42%. A couple of weeks later the only thing showing on the X rays was a shadow where the mass had been. The doctors have continued the chemo treatments though there have been no detectable cancer cells now for over a month. I think the last chemo that had been planned is now finished. Her father has tried to talk about what they have been doing besides the chemo but the doctors seem to be avoiding the situation. He says they seem to realize that something unexpected is happening and don't want to talk about it. I have just heard from her father on May 13, 2001 that she is taking a maintenance amount of Flaxseed Oil, and there is no detectable cancer with the most sensitive tests available at the University of Tennessee. Cliff Toni s wrote: Hi I live in Australia where in the summer, which is now, paw paw trees grow. I had a friend 20 years ago who had Hodgkins Lymphoma and had had chemo, radiation and only had a few weeks to live. Toni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 hi toni , now u'v got me worried , cq10 is imperative and i take pawpaw every day, (the juice off the leaves and stem ) what is it with paw paw and cq10 ?,do they cancel ea. other out ? please reply...... --- Toni s wrote: > Also it is thought not to take antioxidants such as > Co Q10 with it as that puts energy into the cancer > when the paw paw is stopping it. Something like > that anyway. > Toni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hi, From what I understand the paw paw tea stops energy getting into the cancer cells and they die from lack of energy. But the CoQ10 and other antioxidants, but esp CoQ10, gives the cell energy so they oppose each other. I would love more information if you can ever find any. I have researched all I possibly can but would like to know more. Graviola and paw paw are in the same family and I have read not to take the CoQ10 with it either. I thought it would be good to take the paw paw all the summer and then when winter comes take lots antioxidants. We wont be able to get paw paw leaves here in Australia in winter. But I am only guessing that it is a good idea!! Toni --- pscat meow wrote: hi toni , now u'v got me worried , cq10 is imperative and i take pawpaw every day, (the juice off the leaves and stem ) what is it with paw paw and cq10 ?,do they cancel ea. other out ? please reply...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Anyone know about taking Artemisinin with COQ10? Is that ok or does one contradict the other too? Thanks! Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 SHOULD I GIVE THE CQI0 AWAY ?AND IF SO,WHAT ABOUT A REPLACEMENT ? TY TONY , CHRIS Toni s wrote: Hi, From what I understand the paw paw tea stops energy getting into the cancer cells and they die from lack of energy. But the CoQ10 and other antioxidants, but esp CoQ10, gives the cell energy so they oppose each other. I would love more information if you can ever find any. I have researched all I possibly can but would like to know more. Graviola and paw paw are in the same family and I have read not to take the CoQ10 with it either. I thought it would be good to take the paw paw all the summer and then when winter comes take lots antioxidants. We wont be able to get paw paw leaves here in Australia in winter. But I am only guessing that it is a good idea!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 there is so much info out there. i like this group cause we r all doing the same thing, researching, so that adds up to a wealth of info! and we hash it out between us, i need paw paw to go with apricot kernels. they go perfectly together for their job, but since taking cq10, all pain has stopped around heart area. i'm 46 kilos, so my heart is @ risk, hafta do what i can there..cq10 alternative? Toni s wrote: Hi, I have read conflicting advice. Everything except one site says dont take antioxidants especially coq10. But this site says the opposite: www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Graviola.html This site is really good: http://alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 > Toni s wrote: Hi, I have read conflicting advice. Everything > except one site says dont take antioxidants > especially coq10. But this site says the opposite: > www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Graviola.html This site is really good: > http://alternativecancer.us/pawpaw.htm Toni, Dr. Gutman's Glutathione: Your Body's Most Potent Healing Agent, and his booklet Glutathione: It's Role in Cancer and Anticancer Therapy, explains where your body's most important antioxidant and detoxifier fits into cancer therapy. Both the book and the booklet are well-referenced into the literature. Concept put into practice, glutathione precursors have shrunk tumours even on their own, as highlighted by the review " Whey Protein Concentrate (WPC) and Glutathione Modulation in Cancer Treatment " (Published in Nov/Dec 2000 edition of Anticancer Research International Journal of Cancer) With regard to CoQ10, it is not just an antioxidant but it and glutathione are part of the ATP energy cycle. Most natural methods seek to improve ATP production because it has been known for some time that low ATP generation, a precancerous fermentative cellular condition, is part of all the auto-immune and low immune dysfunctions, not just cancer, and high ATP generation reverts cancer to normal aerobically functioning cells. Any way you can get it, high ATP is key because it can not be produced by fermentative cells. The Paw Paw approach in contrast seeks to reduce ATP production to a point that some cancer cells can die. I haven't got behind this approach because it's not what you could call biologically supportive (unless it saves your life -- it is suppressive in nature and it promotes the low ATP precancerous scenario in the other cells, albeit hopefully for just a short while. Just a head's up. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 You have to make it by getting some leaves, cutting up together with the stalks and squashing as many as you can into a big saucepan and boiling for 1 to 2 hours and then straining, refrigerating. Make new lot after 3 days. Dont know where you are but they are fairly accessible in Australia. Best wishes Toni --- Lwayok@... wrote: Where can one buy paw paw tea???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 i live in the australian tropics, would you like me to send u seeds ?they grow very fast, u'll have to find out if its legal, but i will if u want! Lwayok wrote: where can one buy paw paw tea???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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