Re: Cancer controlling diets

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

I have a friend who has controlled her Lymphoma for 8 years through

diet alone. She is on the Living Foods Vegetarian diet. In the first

2 weeks of being on the diet, the lumps in her neck from the cancer

began diminishing & eventually disappeared. Her oncologist measured

them each week. He was amazed.

Whether it is the Budwig diet, the Gerson or the Living Foods diet,

they all eliminate animal flesh from the diet and emphasize vegetables

and fruits. Dr. Budwig says, " No animal fats. " That pretty much

eliminates meats, although some people have a little chicken or fish.

Gerson is adament about avoiding animal products. And the Living Foods

diet, also called Raw Foods diet, does not allow animal protein.

A few years ago a very large study of the Chinese people who still

live in small villages and eat traditionally was done by Cornell

University, Oxford University and the University of China working

together over a period of years. The people in the villages ate lots

of fresh vegetables, usually from their own gardens, and less than 10%

of their diet was animal foods. They also walked or rode bicycles and

were part of a large family and close knit community. Of the thousands

that were studies over the years, almost none had cancer or heart

disease or many of the other illnesses we get in the industrialized nations.

Other similar studies have been done on cultures in other parts of the

world that eat a diet full of vegetables and almost no animal foods.

There is also no sugar or junk snack foods in these diets. In fact,

no processed foods. The more natural the food, the better for our

bodies. And keeping the animal flesh foods to under 10% of the diet or

none at all is a factor according to the research that I've read over

the years. Also, eliminating sugar, a highly processed and unnatural

product, is key, according to these diets and studies.

Annie

[Guest guest]

>>christina wrote:

>>it sounds great but if it was simple and easy to be cured of

>>cancer,then why are people still dying by the hundreds of thousands?

Hi ,

The main reason is that doctors are not are not recommending diet and

nutrition as a way of managing cancer. They are tied to the drug

companies and they promote drugs as a way to manage diseases. All of

their training and their journals are supported by drug corporations.

There is no profit in promoting the use of foods to heal diseases.

And, the truth is that doctors and drug companies are in business to

make a profit. Allopathic medicine is about dealing with disease

through the use of drugs and surgery.

Some doctors who are now moving to integrative or alternative medicine

are promoting natural ways of healing, but they are going against the

grain of the drug industry which has a lot of influence in federal

and state governments because of large contributions to the campaigns

of senators, congressmen and the president. Consequently, many doctors

who try to help people through diet and natural means are accused of

some type of federal violation and taken to court, often their license

to practice medicine is revoked. That's what happened to Dr. Max Gerson

when he showed that he could cure some cancers through diet. It has

happened to many other doctors and is happening today.

In the meantime, thousands are dying as a result of relying on chemo

and radiation. Some people go through it and live for 6 or 7 years when

the cancer returns, more vicious than before. Those who live longer

usually have changed their diet and exercise method, as we know is

true for heart disease also. The cancer industry is huge, bringing in

billions of dollars to corporations and doctors. It's difficult to

even get any publicity in a journal for a study that shows that people

who follow a more vegetarian, natural diet can avoid cancer and heart

disease as well as other diseases. But if you look for it, the

information is out there. It gets mentioned on the news or in a

magazine. But most people follow what their doctor tells them to do.

It takes courage and discipline to completely change your diet and

lifestyle. It isn't easy. If it were, no one would be overweight in

this country, but obesity is a major problem.

Annie

[Guest guest]

Here are a couple websites for Living Foods Diets. Maybe others would

find them interesting to read.

http://www.living-foods.com/

http://www.annwigmore.org/

There are other web sites besides these. Just put the words into

Google & you'll get several. Actually, my friend's diet is a little

more like the Ann Wigmore version of the living foods diet. She

doesn't cheat or stray from this diet.

Regarding a little about her program,

she grows, juices and drinks wheatgrass juice several

times a day. She eats all ORGANIC foods, starting with a variety of

raw vegetable salads (carrot/raisen, broccoli/squash/pine nuts &

raisens, spinach & strawberry OR spinach, onion & shitake mushroom) as

well as lettuce salads with tomato & avocado, plus others. She uses

raw almond butter on Manna or Ezekiel breads (both considered to be

living foods because of the sprouted ingredients). And she uses cooked

quinoa grain and raw, unsalted nuts as protein sources. She also likes

to eat raw almond butter on apple slices. She eats no salt, sugar or animal

products. She has a few lightly steamed vegetables a day also, as well

as various raw fruits.

She also takes magnesium-oxygen capsules to clean out her bowels

daily and she has a colonic every 2 or 3 weeks. This is all

similar to the general concept of the Gerson plan: take in high levels

of vegetables, fruits & juices with enzymes still intact, no animal

products, sugar or salt, keep the bowels clean & support the liver.

She also has a reverse osmosis water filter to eliminate the chlorine

and floride from their water.

Also, she works parttime at a job she loves in a supportive environment

and she has a very loving and supportive husband. Both of these

give her emotional support, which I think is an important part

of a healing program. She looks like the picture of health & has

plenty of energy. Her eyes sparkle and she has a very positive and

cheerful outlook on life.

She was diagnosed with cancer the first time about 14 years ago, when

she was still in her 30's. She knew nothing about alternative methods

of healing then and went through about 38 treatments of chemotherapy, etc.

When the cancer came back after about 6 years, she said she wasn't going

through chemo again. She went to an institute for 2 weeks for learning

the diet. She been healthy ever since, the past 7 or 8 years.

Annie

[Guest guest]

Let me add...it is NOT SIMPLE!

Chemo is MUCH MUCH simpler!

My gerson therapy diet includes 2 YEARS of rigorous effort, requiring

my effort and full-time caregiver - and we can barely manage it! It

is also very expensive, as we purchase over 17 pounds of organic

produce PER DAY!

Medical science uses immuno-boosting therapy (interluken, etc.), and

then in the same breath say that your immune system cannot cure

cancer. Wierdness.

For a sick person (me) to boost their immune system enough to cure

cancer is THE HARDEST UNDERTAKING IN THE WORLD. No exageration

there. 14 hours per day, every day, for 2 years. No life whatever.

But then, hopefully, I am rigorous and healthy for the next 40 years

of my life. If you want to live, you will do what it takes.

" Just eating vegetarian " will not cure cancer. Eliminating poisons

from your system and flooding your system with nutrients bears little

resemblance to " just eating vegetarian " . Trust me on this.

Time to do a coffee enema (really) - bye!

Ted

[Guest guest]

Not all cancer-healing diets are as difficult and time consuming or

as expensive as the Gerson Diet and yet there is plenty of evidence

that they heal cancer patients.

The Flaxseed Oil 2 Group discusses the cancer healing diet of

Dr. Johanna Budwig. This is a very easy-to-prepare diet that is fast

acting in healing many cancers, even for for people who have been

told that they have only a few weeks to live. It's also an

inexpensive diet. You can join the FlaxseedOil2 Group and read

their files. They will tell you about Dr. Budwig and her protocol as

well as give testimonials from people in the group who have

eliminated their cancer. This diet can also help with

heart disease, arthritis, and diabetes. The Harvard Health Letter

report of scientific studies supports all of the foods that the

Budwig Diet recommends, including the low fat cottage

cheese. [ian, your statement that milk and milk products are bad for

anyone with cancer doesn't seem to be true based on the research of

Dr. Budwig & recent scientific studies.]

FlaxSeedOil2/?yguid=108474375

There is also the Living and Raw Foods Diet, which has helped to heal

many people. You can find more information at the following link.

http://www.living-foods.com/links.html

Whether it is the Gerson Diet, the Budwig or the Living Foods Diets,

or the recent scientific studies, they are all saying something

similar - to help prevent or eliminate cancer or heart

disease, eat lots of fresh fruits and vegetables, avoid animal flesh,

sugar, white flour, preservatives, unhealthy fats & oils and

chemicals[including drugs]. That means eating natural, fresh, organic

foods and getting some exercise outside in the fresh air and sunshine

as much as possible.

Ian wrote:

> I buy the argument that our modern diet lacks essential nutrients

for a cure - and to some extent I buy the argument that highly

processed foods (and milk derivatives) can suppress and impair

recovery. - as I am terminal melanoma - and on interleukin2 which has

a very low chance of working. Also - what do you see as the

major 'no-nos'? Love and Healing Ian

>

theobaby1 wrote:

> My gerson therapy diet includes 2 YEARS of rigorous effort,

requiring my effort and full-time caregiver - and we can barely

manage it! It is also very expensive, as we purchase over 17 pounds

of organic produce PER DAY!...............

> " Just eating vegetarian " will not cure cancer. Eliminating

poisons from your system and flooding your system with nutrients

bears little resemblance to " just eating vegetarian " .>

>

[Guest guest]

> But what is the logic of the rest? Surely a high veg diet with lots

of water means that the system is flushed through

Ian, it sounds like we are in the same boat. I am IV B melanoma with

mets subcutaneous to the lymph nodes and to the lungs. No adverse

health symptoms - just a few lumps in the skin. My " offical "

prognosis is <5%, though interluken was mentioned as a un-verified

5%, and a interluken-chemo cocktail at a " very unverified " 10-15%

(Sloan Kettering did a clinic trial on that protocol, and found it no

better than dacarbazine - near 0 survival advantage, but MD

and Univ of Colorado Hospital both claim results of 10-15%.

I checked out Burzynski -- not good results with my disease either.

Then my Mom stumbled on Gerson. GREAT results with melanoma.

The therapy is an INTENSIVE nutrient flood and INTENSIVE toxin

flush. For 2 years, I eat ONLY organics - vegan. No animal

protein. (Some organic yogurt and pot cheese eventually). NO FATS,

except those found in vegetables and in COLD PRESSED ORGANIC FLAX

SEED OIL. I avoid ALL contact with chemicals (our water is

fouridated so I do not touch it - distilled only). I take digestive

aids to help digest the 17 POUNDS of organic produce I consume

daily. I also take B12 injections. And MOST IMPORTANTLY, as my

flood of nutrition gives my body what it needs for my immune system

to fight off my disease, I do coffee enemas every 4 HOURS!

Chemos and interluken etc. is at direct odds with Gerson, as the

Gerson Therapy only has that many more toxins to help the body get

rid of.

I heal myself. The therapy is just a tool to promote my ability to

heal.

It is rigorous. Dr. Max Gerson (Nobel prize winner) studied this in

the 20's, 30's and 40's. He found specific combinations of foods

that maximized immune response and other foods that fed cancer tumors.

He died in the 50's, and his daughter Charlotte Gerson continued

promoting his work. It is a shame there is little money in potatoes

and carrots, or the medical/drug industry would not slander it so.

Do I believe it works?? I HOPE so, of course, since there is little

to no hope otherwise. But I spoke wiht real people who had even more

advanced melanoma than I, and they have been alive 15, 20, even 25

years.

YOU TOO CAN SPEAK WITH THOSE PEOPLE.

I recommend you do 3 things:

1) Call the Gerson Institute and get the names of melanoma survivors,

and call those people -they will be happy to share their experience

with you.

2) Get Charlotte's book from them and read it.

3) Make your own choice.

Of all cancers Max Gerson treated, his best results happened to be

melanoma - and ALL THE " SIDE EFFECTS " are wonderful, not harmful.

I would be VERY interested to know how your treatment is going, and

what it is like to take interluken - I considered that treatment very

seriously before choosing Gerson.

Ted

theobaby@...

P.S. Oh yeah, NO WATER AT ALL!!! I drink over 100 oz of juice each

day, and water only dilutes stomach acid and takes up room that is

better filled by organic produce. There is a special soup (made with

dist9lled water) which functions to cleans the kidneys. If I am

thirsty (rarely!) I eat a fruit. No exercise either. All extra

energy is conserved for the healing process. NO MAGIC BULLETS here -

just common sense immune-boosting. And you can speak to ACTUAL

survivors of this and many other cancers and other diseases.

Good Luck!