Re: Re: Cancer controlling diets

[Guest guest]

it sounds great but if it was simple and easy to be cured of cancer, then why

are people still dying by the hundreds of thousands?

C

anniejames460 <anniejames1@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have a friend who has controlled her Lymphoma for 8 years through

diet alone. She is on the Living Foods Vegetarian diet. In the first

2 weeks of being on the diet, the lumps in her neck from the cancer

began diminishing & eventually disappeared. Her oncologist measured

them each week. He was amazed.

Whether it is the Budwig diet, the Gerson or the Living Foods diet,

they all eliminate animal flesh from the diet and emphasize vegetables

and fruits. Dr. Budwig says, " No animal fats. " That pretty much

eliminates meats, although some people have a little chicken or fish.

Gerson is adament about avoiding animal products. And the Living Foods

diet, also called Raw Foods diet, does not allow animal protein.

A few years ago a very large study of the Chinese people who still

live in small villages and eat traditionally was done by Cornell

University, Oxford University and the University of China working

together over a period of years. The people in the villages ate lots

of fresh vegetables, usually from their own gardens, and less than 10%

of their diet was animal foods. They also walked or rode bicycles and

were part of a large family and close knit community. Of the thousands

that were studies over the years, almost none had cancer or heart

disease or many of the other illnesses we get in the industrialized nations.

Other similar studies have been done on cultures in other parts of the

world that eat a diet full of vegetables and almost no animal foods.

There is also no sugar or junk snack foods in these diets. In fact,

no processed foods. The more natural the food, the better for our

bodies. And keeping the animal flesh foods to under 10% of the diet or

none at all is a factor according to the research that I've read over

the years. Also, eliminating sugar, a highly processed and unnatural

product, is key, according to these diets and studies.

Annie

[Guest guest]

Annie- I definately agree with you on that comment. Unfortunately doctors know

very little about nutrition. I believe this is a main reason our country is as

it is. Could you please send me more information on the diet? I'm starting a

nonprofit org for cancer patients and would love to have this info (a bit about

her story would be great) to pass on. My email addy is

De@....

De

> From: anniejames460

> The main reason is that doctors are not are not recommending diet and

> nutrition as a way of managing cancer. They are tied to the drug

> companies and they promote drugs as a way to manage diseases.

[Guest guest]

Oh I know all that, what I meant is that rich people for example who have all of

the time and money to get the best of everything still die of cancer. I just

don't believe that all you have to do is become a vegetarian and you will be

cured, as I know of several vegetarians who have died of cancer

C

anniejames460 <anniejames1@...> wrote:

>>christina wrote:

>>it sounds great but if it was simple and easy to be cured of

>>cancer,then why are people still dying by the hundreds of thousands?

Hi ,

The main reason is that doctors are not are not recommending diet and

nutrition as a way of managing cancer. They are tied to the drug

companies and they promote drugs as a way to manage diseases. All of

their training and their journals are supported by drug corporations.

There is no profit in promoting the use of foods to heal diseases.

And, the truth is that doctors and drug companies are in business to

make a profit. Allopathic medicine is about dealing with disease

through the use of drugs and surgery.

Some doctors who are now moving to integrative or alternative medicine

are promoting natural ways of healing, but they are going against the

grain of the drug industry which has a lot of influence in federal

and state governments because of large contributions to the campaigns

of senators, congressmen and the president. Consequently, many doctors

who try to help people through diet and natural means are accused of

some type of federal violation and taken to court, often their license

to practice medicine is revoked. That's what happened to Dr. Max Gerson

when he showed that he could cure some cancers through diet. It has

happened to many other doctors and is happening today.

In the meantime, thousands are dying as a result of relying on chemo

and radiation. Some people go through it and live for 6 or 7 years when

the cancer returns, more vicious than before. Those who live longer

usually have changed their diet and exercise method, as we know is

true for heart disease also. The cancer industry is huge, bringing in

billions of dollars to corporations and doctors. It's difficult to

even get any publicity in a journal for a study that shows that people

who follow a more vegetarian, natural diet can avoid cancer and heart

disease as well as other diseases. But if you look for it, the

information is out there. It gets mentioned on the news or in a

magazine. But most people follow what their doctor tells them to do.

It takes courage and discipline to completely change your diet and

lifestyle. It isn't easy. If it were, no one would be overweight in

this country, but obesity is a major problem.

Annie

[Guest guest]

A flip answer might be that they were going to their doctors for " cures " ..

The reality is, however, that cancer is complicated, and there is no

magic pill that always cures it.

Budwig diet, vegetarian, Rife devices, Ozone, water therapy, oxygen

therapy, nutrition, magnetic pulsers - all have something to offer, and

many of these seem to help in some cases - but, again, there IS NO MAGIC

PILL.

Many of us know people going the alternative route for cancer treatment,

and many of these are getting better. What did it? Nobody knows; maybe

the combination of things, maybe that and a combination of the belief

that we'd get better.

What do the MDs do? Actually, pretty much the same things less the

nutrition.. they do the surgery, the radiation, the chemo, and sometimes

- maybe even usually - we get better. Sometimes the cancer returns, and

they try a different chemo treatment.. Almost the same scene as above.

No Magic Pill. (Personal opinion.)

Dave

http://www.dfe.net

christina wrote:

> it sounds great but if it was simple and easy to be cured of cancer, then why

are people still dying by the hundreds of thousands?

>

> C

>

[Guest guest]

From: " christina " <cbmd3@...>

it sounds great but if it was simple and easy to be cured of cancer, then

why are people still dying by the hundreds of thousands?

C

Hey - is it because they are not following the simple lifestyle diets?

anniejames460 <anniejames1@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have a friend who has controlled her Lymphoma for 8 years through

diet alone. She is on the Living Foods Vegetarian diet. In the first

2 weeks of being on the diet, the lumps in her neck from the cancer

began diminishing & eventually disappeared. Her oncologist measured

them each week. He was amazed.

Whether it is the Budwig diet, the Gerson or the Living Foods diet,

they all eliminate animal flesh from the diet and emphasize vegetables

and fruits. Dr. Budwig says, " No animal fats. " That pretty much

eliminates meats, although some people have a little chicken or fish.

Gerson is adament about avoiding animal products. And the Living Foods

diet, also called Raw Foods diet, does not allow animal protein.

A few years ago a very large study of the Chinese people who still

live in small villages and eat traditionally was done by Cornell

University, Oxford University and the University of China working

together over a period of years. The people in the villages ate lots

of fresh vegetables, usually from their own gardens, and less than 10%

of their diet was animal foods. They also walked or rode bicycles and

were part of a large family and close knit community. Of the thousands

that were studies over the years, almost none had cancer or heart

disease or many of the other illnesses we get in the industrialized nations.

Other similar studies have been done on cultures in other parts of the

world that eat a diet full of vegetables and almost no animal foods.

There is also no sugar or junk snack foods in these diets. In fact,

no processed foods. The more natural the food, the better for our

bodies. And keeping the animal flesh foods to under 10% of the diet or

none at all is a factor according to the research that I've read over

the years. Also, eliminating sugar, a highly processed and unnatural

product, is key, according to these diets and studies.

Annie

[Guest guest]

it would be nice if it were that simple, but I have known several

vegetarians/vegans that have died of cancer

C

Pytela <martinp@...> wrote:

From: " christina "

it sounds great but if it was simple and easy to be cured of cancer, then

why are people still dying by the hundreds of thousands?

C

Hey - is it because they are not following the simple lifestyle diets?

anniejames460 wrote:

Hi All,

I have a friend who has controlled her Lymphoma for 8 years through

diet alone. She is on the Living Foods Vegetarian diet. In the first

2 weeks of being on the diet, the lumps in her neck from the cancer

began diminishing & eventually disappeared. Her oncologist measured

them each week. He was amazed.

Whether it is the Budwig diet, the Gerson or the Living Foods diet,

they all eliminate animal flesh from the diet and emphasize vegetables

and fruits. Dr. Budwig says, " No animal fats. " That pretty much

eliminates meats, although some people have a little chicken or fish.

Gerson is adament about avoiding animal products. And the Living Foods

diet, also called Raw Foods diet, does not allow animal protein.

A few years ago a very large study of the Chinese people who still

live in small villages and eat traditionally was done by Cornell

University, Oxford University and the University of China working

together over a period of years. The people in the villages ate lots

of fresh vegetables, usually from their own gardens, and less than 10%

of their diet was animal foods. They also walked or rode bicycles and

were part of a large family and close knit community. Of the thousands

that were studies over the years, almost none had cancer or heart

disease or many of the other illnesses we get in the industrialized nations.

Other similar studies have been done on cultures in other parts of the

world that eat a diet full of vegetables and almost no animal foods.

There is also no sugar or junk snack foods in these diets. In fact,

no processed foods. The more natural the food, the better for our

bodies. And keeping the animal flesh foods to under 10% of the diet or

none at all is a factor according to the research that I've read over

the years. Also, eliminating sugar, a highly processed and unnatural

product, is key, according to these diets and studies.

Annie

[Guest guest]

I know - how do we explain children getting some cancers? But overall, most

cancers respond to cleanse and nourish approach. There of course is the

emotional component that affects all bodies. And beyond that the subtle

energies of karmic influences. But many people are seeing our bodies

mechanistically, as some chemical machines where you can tweak them with a

pimch of this, and a dollop of that ...

In my world it is mind over matter, every time ...

>

> it would be nice if it were that simple, but I have known several

vegetarians/vegans that have died of cancer

>

> C

>

> Pytela <martinp@...> wrote:

>

> From: " christina "

>

> it sounds great but if it was simple and easy to be cured of cancer, then

> why are people still dying by the hundreds of thousands?

>

> C

>

> Hey - is it because they are not following the simple lifestyle diets?

>

>

>

> anniejames460 wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> I have a friend who has controlled her Lymphoma for 8 years through

> diet alone. She is on the Living Foods Vegetarian diet. In the first

> 2 weeks of being on the diet, the lumps in her neck from the cancer

> began diminishing & eventually disappeared. Her oncologist measured

> them each week. He was amazed.

>

> Whether it is the Budwig diet, the Gerson or the Living Foods diet,

> they all eliminate animal flesh from the diet and emphasize vegetables

> and fruits. Dr. Budwig says, " No animal fats. " That pretty much

> eliminates meats, although some people have a little chicken or fish.

> Gerson is adament about avoiding animal products. And the Living Foods

> diet, also called Raw Foods diet, does not allow animal protein.

>

> A few years ago a very large study of the Chinese people who still

> live in small villages and eat traditionally was done by Cornell

> University, Oxford University and the University of China working

> together over a period of years. The people in the villages ate lots

> of fresh vegetables, usually from their own gardens, and less than 10%

> of their diet was animal foods. They also walked or rode bicycles and

> were part of a large family and close knit community. Of the thousands

> that were studies over the years, almost none had cancer or heart

> disease or many of the other illnesses we get in the industrialized

nations.

>

> Other similar studies have been done on cultures in other parts of the

> world that eat a diet full of vegetables and almost no animal foods.

> There is also no sugar or junk snack foods in these diets. In fact,

> no processed foods. The more natural the food, the better for our

> bodies. And keeping the animal flesh foods to under 10% of the diet or

> none at all is a factor according to the research that I've read over

> the years. Also, eliminating sugar, a highly processed and unnatural

> product, is key, according to these diets and studies.

>

> Annie

>

[Guest guest]

I buy the argument that our modern diet lacks essential nutrients for a cure -

and to some extent I buy the argument that highly processed foods (and milk

derivatives) can suppress and impair recovery.

But what is the logic of the rest? Surely a high veg diet with lots of water

means that the system is flushed through

I am very interested - as I am terminal melanoma - and on interleukin2 which has

a very low chance of working

Also - what do you see as the major 'no-nos'?

Love and Healing

Ian

theobaby1 wrote:

My gerson therapy diet includes 2 YEARS of rigorous effort, requiring

my effort and full-time caregiver - and we can barely manage it! It

is also very expensive, as we purchase over 17 pounds of organic

produce PER DAY!...............

" Just eating vegetarian " will not cure cancer. Eliminating poisons

from your system and flooding your system with nutrients bears little

resemblance to " just eating vegetarian " . Trust me on this.

Time to do a coffee enema (really) - bye!

Ted