Re: primary peritoneal cancer - help please!

[Guest guest]

Hi Yang:

I know how discouraging it is to hunt for alternative help. I waded through tons

of things on the internet before I decided on using cesium therapy for my

sister. It not only has a huge scientific background behind it but if you do any

research on the newest microcelllular biology you will find that the celllular

functions are totally dependent on the pH condition of the inter and extra

cellular fluids. Cesium works very quickly but after the bulk of the cancer is

destroyed, the job of getting the body back into a finely tuned machine depends

totally on the fuel you buy and use. Each part of the body operating system has

to be corrected, starting with re-establishing the flora in your intestines and

colon and cleaning up the all important vascular system.

Write to me if you need any further info.

Hugs, Dottie

[Guest guest]

It has been written about a number of times on this forum - Miracle II

Neutralizer does a great job of helping to alkalize most anybody's system,

and it is rather affordable.

www.life-enthusiast.com/miracle

Re: [ ] primary peritoneal cancer - help please!

> Dottie,

>

> Very interesting! You remind me that my mom's blood PH

> value stays constantly at 5.0 since we paid attention

> to it after her diagnosis. We tried to improve it by

> adding more diet food, but it did not seem to change a

> bit. I certainly will search more on cesium topic as

> you suggested.

>

> It seemed your sister's situation improved after

> taking cesium (I am very glad to hear that). Would you

> mind to share more on her diagnosis, treatment, and

> her health improvement associated with her PH value

> change?

>

> I really do feel warmhearted after receiving a few

> responses to my post. Each patient's past experience

> with orthodox/alternative treatment, success or

> failure, is so valuable to the newcomers. I hope

> Internet will help us remember those brave fighters

> and survivors, and their stories.

>

> Regards,

> -yang

>

[Guest guest]

,

I did a search on the forum posts archives, nobody has

mentioned Miracle II Neutralizer. If you have seen it

from other email group, please share with me. I'd like

to see more comments on the product from patients.

Thanks,

-yang

--- Pytela <martinp@...> wrote:

> It has been written about a number of times on this

> forum - Miracle II

> Neutralizer does a great job of helping to alkalize

> most anybody's system,

> and it is rather affordable.

>

>

> www.life-enthusiast.com/miracle

>

> Re: [ ] primary peritoneal cancer

> - help please!

>

>

> > Dottie,

> >

> > Very interesting! You remind me that my mom's

> blood PH

> > value stays constantly at 5.0 since we paid

> attention

> > to it after her diagnosis. We tried to improve it

> by

> > adding more diet food, but it did not seem to

> change a

> > bit. I certainly will search more on cesium topic

> as

> > you suggested.

> >

> > It seemed your sister's situation improved after

> > taking cesium (I am very glad to hear that). Would

> you

> > mind to share more on her diagnosis, treatment,

> and

> > her health improvement associated with her PH

> value

> > change?

> >

> > I really do feel warmhearted after receiving a few

> > responses to my post. Each patient's past

> experience

> > with orthodox/alternative treatment, success or

> > failure, is so valuable to the newcomers. I hope

> > Internet will help us remember those brave

> fighters

> > and survivors, and their stories.

> >

> > Regards,

> > -yang

> >

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> Yang,

>

> I did a search on the forum posts archives, nobody has

> mentioned Miracle II Neutralizer. If you have seen it

> from other email group, please share with me. I'd like

> to see more comments on the product from patients.

>

> Thanks,

> -yang

Here is an quote for the user reports page:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/miracle/miracle_stories.htm

An interview with Dr. Herbage. Dr. Herbage is an MD, as well as

holding a degree in Homeopathy. She is the Medical Director for the Madison

Holistic Health Center in Madison, Wisconsin.

Dr. Herbage told us she diagnosed herself with breast cancer in October,

2001. Following surgery, the reports indicated that all malignant tissue had

been removed ... everything looked clean and nothing had spread. So Dr.

Herbage elected to have no chemo, no radiation. Instead, she began an herbal

program, and then, because she was not anxious ... settled down into a

standard herbal program, setting aside the intense herbs.

In February, Dr. Herbage again had a blood test ... a lump had shown up in

the breast, and the blood test revealed that she still had cancer! She went

back on the intense herbal program; however, the herbs began hurting her

stomach ... she developed an ulcer and the stomach pain was so bad that she

couldn't eat, and finally had to stop taking the herbs. She had run out of

options, and had a long talk with the Lord, asking for direction ... " I

don't know what to do. "

In April, her husband who was away on a trip brought back some Miracle II.

He had used it for his chronic pain, and it went away. He suggested she try

it for the breast cancer. Well! This unimpressive little bottle ... this

" inexpensive cure-all " did not catch her attention, and she disregarded it.

However, her husband kept calling, asking her if she had taken it. Finally,

to keep peace in the family ... she condescended to take 7 drops. Dr.

Herbage took 7 drops for 7 days. The next week she had another blood test.

It was " Normal. " Yes, after one week, the blood test was Normal and the lump

had gone away! It took her a while to comprehend this. Finally, after one

week, when she really understood that she was cured, she read Amazing Grace.

She couldn't sleep that night. And now, she turns to Miracle II for

everything!

When the breast cancer had been cured after one week of 7 drops, the reading

was " Normal " -- 100, just on the borderline, but... " Normal. " Five weeks

later, still adjusting to her Miracle, Dr. Herbage had another blood test

done. This time, it was fully in the " Normal " range ... it was 60!

One of Dr. Herbage's breast cancer patients had a mastectomy, followed by

radiation. She was so sick after all of this trauma, and had another blood

test: 220. Cancer still very active. She went on an alternative program.

Another blood test: 180. Cancer still active. Dr. Herbage then got her on 7

drops of Miracle II. One month later she came in for another blood test: 41.

No Cancer!

============================

Skin Cancer

I have had skin cancer since age 21. I have had as many as 46 at a time

burnt off and they all came back. But since using Miracle II, I have been

clear of them and my skin is smooth and soft for the first time in years.

There is really no praise high enough to give this really marvelous Soap. It

truly is a Miracle. I would recommend it to anyone with any kind of skin

problems.

You have my permission to use this letter as I feel everyone should be

advised to what a wonderful product you have.

Lloyd , Texas

============================

Also see:

http://life-enthusiast.com/news/news_030507.htm

http://life-enthusiast.com/news/news_030216.htm

> --- Pytela <martinp@...> wrote:

> > It has been written about a number of times on this

> > forum - Miracle II

> > Neutralizer does a great job of helping to alkalize

> > most anybody's system,

> > and it is rather affordable.

> >

> >

> > www.life-enthusiast.com/miracle

> >

[Guest guest]

It is a multi-level marketing scheme. Lots of hype but no reports of cures

of anything. I think all alkalizing methods have little or no good

documentation.

Blood pH is very tightly controlled by the body. Barefoot has been charged

by the FTC with unlawful promotion of Coral Calcium as a cure. It is just

plain calcium carbonate, dirt cheap. Does nothing but plug up your bowels.

It's magnesium we all need.

Loren

Re: [ ] primary peritoneal cancer

> > - help please!

> >

> >

> > > Dottie,

> > >

> > > Very interesting! You remind me that my mom's

> > blood PH

> > > value stays constantly at 5.0 since we paid

> > attention

> > > to it after her diagnosis. We tried to improve it

> > by

> > > adding more diet food, but it did not seem to

> > change a

> > > bit. I certainly will search more on cesium topic

> > as

> > > you suggested.

> > >

> > > It seemed your sister's situation improved after

> > > taking cesium (I am very glad to hear that). Would

> > you

> > > mind to share more on her diagnosis, treatment,

> > and

> > > her health improvement associated with her PH

> > value

> > > change?

> > >

> > > I really do feel warmhearted after receiving a few

> > > responses to my post. Each patient's past

> > experience

> > > with orthodox/alternative treatment, success or

> > > failure, is so valuable to the newcomers. I hope

> > > Internet will help us remember those brave

> > fighters

> > > and survivors, and their stories.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > -yang

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Loren

Your absolute statements cannot possibly be backed up by direct experience.

You have no business trashing a product that you have not used yourself. And

if you did, you would not be making these statements.

Pulling in Barefoot into a conversation about Miracle II products is a fine

disinformation tactic, but a logical leap that merits spanking. We are not

offering a cure to anything. Neutralizer does a fine job of alkalizing

people's bodies, and their bodies do the healing.

There is no multi-level involved here. And the information I put forward is

backed by plenty of experience. Before you trash something, why don't you

educate yourself first?

Re: [ ] primary peritoneal cancer

> > > - help please!

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dottie,

> > > >

> > > > Very interesting! You remind me that my mom's

> > > blood PH

> > > > value stays constantly at 5.0 since we paid

> > > attention

> > > > to it after her diagnosis. We tried to improve it

> > > by

> > > > adding more diet food, but it did not seem to

> > > change a

> > > > bit. I certainly will search more on cesium topic

> > > as

> > > > you suggested.

> > > >

> > > > It seemed your sister's situation improved after

> > > > taking cesium (I am very glad to hear that). Would

> > > you

> > > > mind to share more on her diagnosis, treatment,

> > > and

> > > > her health improvement associated with her PH

> > > value

> > > > change?

> > > >

> > > > I really do feel warmhearted after receiving a few

> > > > responses to my post. Each patient's past

> > > experience

> > > > with orthodox/alternative treatment, success or

> > > > failure, is so valuable to the newcomers. I hope

> > > > Internet will help us remember those brave

> > > fighters

> > > > and survivors, and their stories.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > -yang

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Loren

I would like to take another version of my response:

> It is a multi-level marketing scheme.

How does that make a product good or bad. BTW, we are not involved in the

MLM distribution system.

> Lots of hype but no reports of cures of anything.

Who is allowed to make a claim of cure of anything, other than a

pharmaceutical company with 250 million dollars spent on proving a point.

And yet, any substance that supports the immune system can't be evaluated

this way, as it only helps the body heal itself from whatever it created

because of an imbalance.

> I think all alkalizing methods have little or no good documentation.

We could debate this.

Here is a link to a bit of education how it works:

http://biomedx.com/microscopes/rrintro/rrintro.html

> Blood pH is very tightly controlled by the body.

Definitely. And it uses calcium, magnesium, potassium and sodium as its

major tools to do it.

> Barefoot has been charged

> by the FTC with unlawful promotion of Coral Calcium as a cure. It is just

> plain calcium carbonate, dirt cheap. Does nothing but plug up your bowels.

> It's magnesium we all need.

We all need magnesium to balance the calcium levels. Bio-available is an

important point. No dead rocks have been too useful as a mineral supplement.

[Guest guest]

Pytela:

You are not the first to tout Miracle II on . It is off topic.

The other one was run off the group. The website for Miracle II and the

touts claim it cures about everything. Sucker bait. I've found no evidence

that alkalizing a body heals anything. A package of Tums will alkalize the

body. So will Milk of Magnesia and Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate).

Tums (calcium carbonate) even makes arthritis worse and increases muscular

pain from exercise by encouraging more calcium deposits, and calcium also

encourages constipation. Magnesium does the opposite.

There are some studies showing calcium reduces the risk of colon cancer,

but that's the only plus I know of. Bob Barefoot got in trouble touting

coral calcium, which is like Tums (calcium carbonate) but at a much higher

price.

Please show us testimonials of any cancer cures using Miracle II products or

alkalizing. Since that is the purpose of this group, we'd all like to see

them.

Loren

Loren

Re: [ ] primary peritoneal cancer

> > > > - help please!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dottie,

> > > > >

> > > > > Very interesting! You remind me that my mom's

> > > > blood PH

> > > > > value stays constantly at 5.0 since we paid

> > > > attention

> > > > > to it after her diagnosis. We tried to improve it

> > > > by

> > > > > adding more diet food, but it did not seem to

> > > > change a

> > > > > bit. I certainly will search more on cesium topic

> > > > as

> > > > > you suggested.

> > > > >

> > > > > It seemed your sister's situation improved after

> > > > > taking cesium (I am very glad to hear that). Would

> > > > you

> > > > > mind to share more on her diagnosis, treatment,

> > > > and

> > > > > her health improvement associated with her PH

> > > > value

> > > > > change?

> > > > >

> > > > > I really do feel warmhearted after receiving a few

> > > > > responses to my post. Each patient's past

> > > > experience

> > > > > with orthodox/alternative treatment, success or

> > > > > failure, is so valuable to the newcomers. I hope

> > > > > Internet will help us remember those brave

> > > > fighters

> > > > > and survivors, and their stories.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > -yang

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

" It's magnesium we all need. "

Loren, your replies can be so exasperating sometimes. Please be

more specific!

Why is it magnesium that we all need?

In what form should we take it?

In what doseage?

--Marcy

[Guest guest]

Loren you mean to tell us that Tumbs can also help for Cancer?

Bori

parksl@... wrote:

Pytela:

You are not the first to tout Miracle II on . It is off topic.

The other one was run off the group. The website for Miracle II and the

touts claim it cures about everything. Sucker bait. I've found no evidence

that alkalizing a body heals anything. A package of Tums will alkalize the

body. So will Milk of Magnesia and Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate).

Tums (calcium carbonate) even makes arthritis worse and increases muscular

pain from exercise by encouraging more calcium deposits, and calcium also

encourages constipation. Magnesium does the opposite.

There are some studies showing calcium reduces the risk of colon cancer,

but that's the only plus I know of. Bob Barefoot got in trouble touting

coral calcium, which is like Tums (calcium carbonate) but at a much higher

price.

Please show us testimonials of any cancer cures using Miracle II products or

alkalizing. Since that is the purpose of this group, we'd all like to see

them.

Loren

Loren

Re: [ ] primary peritoneal cancer

> > > > - help please!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dottie,

> > > > >

> > > > > Very interesting! You remind me that my mom's

> > > > blood PH

> > > > > value stays constantly at 5.0 since we paid

> > > > attention

> > > > > to it after her diagnosis. We tried to improve it

> > > > by

> > > > > adding more diet food, but it did not seem to

> > > > change a

> > > > > bit. I certainly will search more on cesium topic

> > > > as

> > > > > you suggested.

> > > > >

> > > > > It seemed your sister's situation improved after

> > > > > taking cesium (I am very glad to hear that). Would

> > > > you

> > > > > mind to share more on her diagnosis, treatment,

> > > > and

> > > > > her health improvement associated with her PH

> > > > value

> > > > > change?

> > > > >

> > > > > I really do feel warmhearted after receiving a few

> > > > > responses to my post. Each patient's past

> > > > experience

> > > > > with orthodox/alternative treatment, success or

> > > > > failure, is so valuable to the newcomers. I hope

> > > > > Internet will help us remember those brave

> > > > fighters

> > > > > and survivors, and their stories.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > -yang

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Marcy

>

>

> " It's magnesium we all need. "

>

> Loren, your replies can be so exasperating sometimes. Please be

> more specific!

> Why is it magnesium that we all need?

> In what form should we take it?

> In what doseage?

> --Marcy

I am not Loren, but here are your reasons you need magnesium:

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/shealy/magnesium.htm

Magnesium is the most critical mineral required for electrical stability of

every cell in the body. Its major role is at and in the cells so that blood

levels, whole blood, serum, plasma, and even white blood cell levels of

magnesium do not give an accurate picture of optimal magnesium levels. In

fact, serum levels of magnesium are low only in acute alcoholics and in

severe starvation. Magnesium stored in bones is stolen " by the body to

maintain the narrow range of serum levels required for life.

Eighty percent of American women and seventy percent of men do not eat even

the recommended daily requirement of magnesium. And soil throughout the

world is deficient in magnesium except in Egypt. Thus, most foods today,

even those supposed to have a high content of magnesium, are low themselves.

As a single essential nutrient, magnesium may be responsible for more

diseases than any other nutrient! There are many reasons for this widespread

deficiency: nutrition, stress and drugs. White flour has had removed 85% of

its magnesium. Considering the fact that almost 20% of calories come from

white flour, essentially a junk food, this inadequate food is responsible

for about 17% " loss " of magnesium. Chemical fertilizers, high in nitrates,

phosphates, and potassium, deplete soil magnesium so that even most whole

wheat is basically borderline.

Farmers are well aware of the major impact of magnesium depletion; horses

and catfle may die from " grass staggers, " an uncoordinated gait, severe

muscle spasms and even seizures. All this is curable by magnesium

supplementation, if caught early enough.

The second junk food which has no magnesium, and indeed no real nutritional

value, is white sugar. The average American consumes 42 teaspoons of sugar

per day, 210 calories, or about 10% of caloric intake.

Add 15%, minimum, for protein and 35%for fat, both lacking in magnesium, and

it is obvious that at least 77% of our food has no magnesium. Furthermore,

both fat and protein interfere with absorption of magnesium.

And then there is that enigma of modern life, " pop, " which is phosphate of

soda, a major stumbling block in magnesium metabolism. At an average of 24

to 36 oz. per day, the ultimate junk non-food, pop, is one of the unsung,

unrecognized villains in disease promotion.

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