white blood cell count

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I had low lymphocytes in my blood work done last summer. In August

after I began taking supplements, my count was back up. This past

December, I quit taking all supplements at least 1 week prior to

having my wisdom teeth removed as directed by the oral surgeon,

because some herbs can cause bleeding. Two days before the surgery

I had another blood work done (without any supplements in my body to

make things seem better than they are) -- and my lymphocytes are

down again.

At least they've agreed to honor my wishes and monitor with MRI

instead of CT's as I have already had enough background radiation

from NUMEROUS CT's in a short period of time, for 10+ years of

background radation.

Anyway, just to let you know, I believe the Saventaro and SOD are 2

very beneficial supplements, to be taken on an empty stomach.

I also saw something for sale called Thymucin, which contains thymus

extracts (an important organ of the immune system located at the

upper center of the chest). I have the new supplements, now, which

also contain astragalus, a superior TCM herb.

However ~ I found a website about Cat's Claw (what Saventaro comes

from) being counterindicated with Thymus extracts. Does anyone know

why this might be? If anyone has any additional info about why

these 2 supplements, or might not work well together, pls let me

know:

http://patient.cancerconsultants.com/cam_treatment.aspx?id=705

" ....

Cat's Claw and Drugs

Cat's claw should not be combined with the following drugs: hormonal

medications 4,40 , insulin 4,40 , vaccines 4,40 , thymus extracts

31 , sera or immune globulin 1,2,4,31

Theoretically, cat's claw may interfere with the following

medications: anti-hypertensive drugs 4 , blood-thinning drugs 4,40 ,

platelet-forming drugs 4,40 , drugs metabolized by CYP3A447- 50

Cat's Claw Interactions with Herbs, Food or Pharmaceuticals

No data is available on interactions of cat's claw 51,52 with

standard chemotherapy 4 , food 1 , herbs or vitamins 51,52 , or

drugs metabolized by the P450 enzyme system 2

.....

31. RxList: The Internet Drug List: Cat's Claw- Frequently Asked

Questions. http://www.rxlist.com

..... "

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/alt/catsclaw_faq.htm

Any info at all about Thymus derivatives and/or contraindications

would be appreciated. Thanks.

By the way, my numerous liver lesions were 4 mm via CT scan end of

August. They are now 6 mm via MRI end of December. The 3 larger

ones I believe have remained about the same but may be a tad

smaller, I'm going to have to double check those 3 sizes with the

former CT. I do know that the numerous ones all throughout my liver

have grown 2 mm in 4 months, which means by my next MRI to be

scheduled in about April, they could be 8 mm ...

Still, no hope of any form of treating being offered or suggested,

or guidance regarding managing these problems. They are only

intersted in monitoring me ... and everything I try to do to help

myself they (doctors) are saying I am huring myself ... for example,

I mentioned bicarb of soda in distilled water to alkalize. Liver

doctor said that is why I'm retaining water. I'm sorry doc, but I

was having ALL these problems BEFORE, and it is only because of the

supplemtents I am taking, and the things I am doing for myself, that

this is not WORSE already

!!

I'm going to stop going to them altogether very soon. I am paying

high out-of-pocket expenses hoping for treatment and guidance, and

all they are doing is monitoring me and DEPRESSING me. Doctors have

done nothing but HURT me going on 2 years now. I think they must

have no compassion at all. None at all.

Becky