Re: ionic breeze / bladder cancer

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palomino03 wrote:

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> I've got two questions.. my mother bought several of those ionic

> breeze air cleaning machines. Someone told us they were being sued? A

> friend of hers is wanting to get one. Are they good? or is there a

> better one? I know this is off topic but ya'll are smart about these

> type things

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> So it is an oxone generator ... a special unit. ...and this is left

> running continuously in the home?

Let's define the differences. There are two special types (actually

three) of air treatment. One is negligible as it just filters the air

using HEPA or some other type of filtration, and effectiveness depends

on the quality of the filter. The better the filter, the higher the

cost and more sensitive, thus more frequent replacing. The other two

types are Ionic and Ozone type systems.

Ionic Systems

The Ionic Breeze that is advertised by Sharper Image and similar models,

is an electrostatic type cleaner. The Ionic Breeze is perhaps more

effective than most electrostatic types, and easier to clean. The

patented technology keeps the price high. These can be very effective

at pulling the dust, dander, pollen particles and other items from the

air. Limited by the amount of square feet it is recommended to handle

at any given time. For example, the Ionic Breeze covers about 1200 +/-

sq. ft. Ungrounded ionic generators will generally render the area

around it, dark and sooty as the negative ions attach to particles and

seek the closest positive ground such as the floor, table top, or a wall

if close by. Had an early models in the eighties that just spewed out

ions. I can assure you if it is an old one and close to a flat latex

wall surface, plan on repainting. The Breeze and newer units are

different in that the negative charged particles are grounded to the

washable blades or other mechanism inside/outside the unit. Breeze -

advertised for about $350-400.

Ozone Systems

Ozone systems as mentioned previously, produce O3, an unstable gas that

holds together for about 15-20 minutes before reverting to normal

elements. This O3 is the healthy element which can be good for you and

purifies the air. Naturally occurring ozone is produced by nature and

is found in the upper atmosphere. The ozone pollution that is construed

on weather forecasts is man made pollution that mixes with the lower

atmosphere and is the smog in the air which is not too good for us. The

ozone generators will produce the beneficial O3 in the quantities it is

manufactured to deliver. You can get them to integrate into your

central A/C system, clean your swimming pool and reduce the amount of

needed chemicals, for walk in coolers, whatever.

These systems will actually purify the air of pathogens. mold, fungus

and other elements in a different manner than ionic systems. Ionic

systems will only clean the air electrostatically, it does not purify

like the ozone generator. Both types will give the room a fresher,

crisper air that is quite noticeable. Ozone systems are sold into

commercial applications for food preservation and processing to kill

pathogens on foods, to purify water for rinsing foods, etc. It all

depends on how much you want to spend.

Some home systems combine a water purification method for individuals

glasses of tap water. Or you can purchase separate dedicated ozone

water systems for the sink or inline plumbing. After researching them

after this recent posting, I'm impressed with the ozone setups. They do

make healthy sense, if you can shell out the bucks for them. Equating

them as a reliable healing element might be pushing the envelope a bit,

a contributing factor, perhaps. $400 and up.

Thanks for the tip Gaylen.

Chuck

More info on Ozone systems..............

http://www.plasmafire.com

Less expensive ones at

http://www.appliedozone.com

[Guest guest]

I have spent hours searching all of the conventional sites regarding bladder

cancer and still remain puzzled.

Initially a lot will depend upon whether his cancer is invasive, high grade,

or low grade and non-invasive.

My neighbor with bladder cancer had his tumor removed and had one recurrence

and that was five years ago. Hasn't had any bladder problems however they

are now treating him for Lung Cancer and so far there has been no

'association' with the bladder cancer. ????

A lot more needs to be learned re this particular case and a lot of reading

and deep reading at that for the conventional sites give mixed messages and

one needs to really read between the lines to get the straight answers.

Key Dr. Lamm in your search engine for he is supposedly 'The' man re

conventional bladder cancer treatments.

Joe C.

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Been dealing with bladder cancer 18 years. This is the place to learn, best

info on the web. http://blcwebcafe.org/listinfo.asp

[ ] ionic breeze / bladder cancer

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> I've got two questions.. my mother bought several of those ionic

> breeze air cleaning machines. Someone told us they were being sued? A

> friend of hers is wanting to get one. Are they good? or is there a

> better one? I know this is off topic but ya'll are smart about these

> type things

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> I just found out my uncle has a tumor in his bladder and three spots

> they are saying is cancer. He's having surgery Thursday.. is the

> outcome of bladder cancer usually good or not? Thank you for any

> info. Kim

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Wow! Glad your doing well... I'm afraid his is advanced as I just

found out he has the tumor on his bladder that is definitely cancer

and two tumors on his kidneys... They are going in and doing

exploratory surgery on him.. I would guess if God forbid it's spread

that it would go to the kidneys first? What is the prognosis of

kidney cancer? I will let ya'll know more as I do..Kim

Been dealing with bladder cancer 18 years. This is the place to

learn, best

> info on the web. http://blcwebcafe.org/listinfo.asp

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> > breeze air cleaning machines. Someone told us they were being

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> > friend of hers is wanting to get one. Are they good? or is there a

> > better one? I know this is off topic but ya'll are smart about

these

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> > I just found out my uncle has a tumor in his bladder and three

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> > they are saying is cancer. He's having surgery Thursday.. is the

> > outcome of bladder cancer usually good or not? Thank you for any

> > info. Kim

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