Re: My PSA was 7.6 - Any Advice?

[Guest guest]

My dad had his removed 10 years ago and we have been fighting his psa ever

sence. My thoughts on this is that when he had it out his psa was like 8 and

right after surgery it went up to 14 and has gone up slowly for 10 years. He had

chemo 6 mths ago, got shingles (they do have a shot for shingles now and I would

ask for it now), they got his psa back down to 6 they stopped chemo, it started

going back up and tuesday it is chemo again and his psa is 98 and the bone scan

showed the cancer is in the bone in many areas. Dad has been taking Cantron,

zenergy, ect and we wondered if it was helping him - well 2 days ago he stopped

taking it to keep it from interfering with the new chemo and he can tell it was

helping as he is feeling more pain. He will go thu the chemo and get back on

the cantron when he is done. I beleave that when he had it removed air got into

it and it spread like fire, if we had it to do over again I am not sure we would

have it out. The one thing that did happen to my dad that may have caused some

problems was that - when the doctor took his stitches out that night the wound

opened up all the way and it took 2 days to get it sewed back up.

Sorry to scare you but hope I helped. Good Luck deb

r h <sydneyseas7@...> wrote:

Hi Friends

My PSA last week was 7.6, which means anything over 4.0 and there is an alert

for prostste cancer. The prostate exam showed no nodules. In the last 2 years my

PSA has gone from 2.3 (normal) to 7.6 and I have been thinking about having it

removed, and advice?

Sydney

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[Guest guest]

If you want a chance to stay healthy and to fight what ever it is that may be

causing the higher psa, don't take it out. 7.6 isn't that high. Try diet and

flaxseed/cottage cheese. You have many things to do before considering cutting,

and lots of time to do it in. Get started now. Study and change to make

yourself healthy. Don't think you can cut and go on the same way.

" D Schultz - wrote: My dad had his removed 10 years ago and we have been

fighting his psa ever sence.

[Guest guest]

Hello Sydney:

10 or so years ago my PSA rang in at 7.6 and luckily my son was about to be wed

and I didn't want a potential infection upsetting my attendance plans. I never

did get a biopsy which was being pushed on me.

During these 10 years my PSA has risen to as high as 10 and back down to 6 just

a few weeks ago.

PSA has 'some' merit as regards an 'indication' but more and more we read that

it is totally unreliable as an accurate marker for Prostate Cancer.

My Urologist admits that biopsies have the potential for 'seeding' cancer cells

to other areas if there are any present so I have elected to 'wait and see'

regarding my prostate which is at its lowest in more than 10 years.

Have you had a Free PSA Test yet? It is a more reliable indicator and by

'Free', I do not mean no cost but rather am using the name of the test. If you

have not, perhaps it is because you are buying the thought at having your

prostate removed even if no cancer has manifest itself.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sidney,

For many years I had my prostate checked annually. And for many years it was

normal by both physical examination and PSA which was always below 2.

Twenty-one months ago the PSA elevated slightly to 2.6, still nothing to worry

about. However I kept experiencing a " sixth sense " that all was not well in

that department. At my last annual checkup I went to a urologist rather tham my

primary care physician At that time it had elevated to 3.6 and I went on a 6

month recall. In August of this year it had elevated to 4.6 and the physical

examination revealed a slight stiffness in it.

So we ordered a biopsy which revealed an agressive cancer. On September 19th

the prostate was removed and the test results showed that it was essentially

" eaten alive " by the cancer. There was no sign that the cancer had left the

prostate by any of the several venues by which this is possible. However the

doctor told me that had it have gone into the lymph nodes they would not have

removed it but instead would have simply sewed my back up and refered me back to

my primary care physicial for " final care " considering the condition to have

been " non treatable " . Now I get to wait

and see to find out if it had sent out any of it's " little seeds " .

Not being a very patient fellow I found what I consider to be an excellent

" alternative " care provider who has me on what I consider to be an excellent

program. I have already made the decision that I will not undergo either

radiation or chemo. I see no reason to further supress an already severly

supressed imune system. Only time will tell the results of my current

alternative program. I do feel that the decision to remove the prostate was a

good one. Had I not done so, as advanced and as agressive as the cancer was I

would by this time be on a very " short leash " . As it is I at least

have a good chance of beating this.

I do hope that this is of some value to you. Please remember that it is rather

rare for cancer of the prostate to be of such an agressive nature. I am 71

years of age and " normal " prostate cancer would not have been so much to worry

about as something else would probably have killed me before it did. Everyone

is unique and each case is different so I urge you to learn your options

including alternative care as there are some very good providers out there.

Wishing you the best,

-ph Simons

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sydney:

I am not a doctor. I do have a few comments and questions.

1. Normally, PSA at 7.6 is too high even though it is not very reliable

whether or not you have cancer. The only way to determine is biopsy. At this

PSA, I would suggest you do a biopsy.

2. Do not wait too long. Prostate cancer may spread to other organs

depending on your gleason score,etc.

3. You should study all conventional options and other natural therapy

alternatives.

4. Talk to medical doctors in different specialties and seek their advices

and make your own decisions. Join your local support groups and talk to them.

And you will be glad that you did.

5. Lastly, prostate cancer (if you have one) is potentially life threatening

and you should seek immediate medical attention.

Good luck.

[Guest guest]

Sydney,

Are you familiar with Dr. Ben Carson? This is the man:

http://www.drbencarson.com/medical-career.html.

Here is an audio about his experience with prostate cancer:

http://www.lifechangingwellness.com/healer.ram.

I would really encourage you to explore alternatives before doing surgery. I am

somewhat convinced that rushing into surgery is not wise if it can at all be

avoided. Ben Carson is an amazing man, and his testimony is more than enough

proof for me!

[Guest guest]

Is your dad taking willards water with the cantron? But not at the same time as

cantron.

Is he shaking the bottle each time he takes cantron?

Is your dad taking the enzymes too?

Chuck 's phone number is on the database at the cantron group.

One guy I know said he did not start feeling better taking the cantron until

he started juice green veggies. He too has prostate cancer.

debbie

" D Schultz <garagesale> wrote:

....they got his psa back down to 6 they stopped chemo, it started going back

up and tuesday it is chemo again and his psa is 98 and the bone scan showed the

cancer is in the bone in many areas. Dad has been taking Cantron, zenergy, ect

and we wondered if it was helping him - well 2 days ago he stopped taking it to

keep it from interfering with the new chemo and he can tell it was helping as he

is feeling more pain. He will go thu the chemo and get back on the cantron when

he is done.....deb

[Guest guest]

My Wife juices Organic cabbage, carrots, apples once or

twice daily. This has a lot of enzymes.As with water

the PH should be high. Look at watercure2.org on sea

salt cure and hydrogen peroxide. Ron