Re: I offer a couple cures

October 7, 2003

In a message dated 10/7/03 11:04:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> She started taking my tea a little over a month ago and her

> brain tumor is shrinking now. They believe she will be just fine. A

> friend of mine cured his own prostate and testicular cancer in a

> month with this tea. That was back in 1997 and he hasn't had a

> recurrence. I would be happy to talk to anyone about the tea. Go to

> the website for my phone number and call me if you want.

> The link to this site is:

> http://www.finitesite.com/spiritlady/tea.htm

>

Joan

Do you wildcraft these herbs yourself for your version of Ojibwa herb

tea/Essiac? There is a difference in the formula of your product and that of

Glum's posted as a link on your site. Yours substitutes Bloodroot for Turkey

rhubarb root. What documentation do you have to support that substitution?

Also, I could find no use directions: preparation, dosing, etc.

Do you provide a money back guarantee? $350.00 is a whole lot of $$$ for

some of us.

I look forward to your response.

MJH

October 7, 2003

This sounds like Essiac Tea. Is it the same?

foxhillers@... wrote:In a message dated 10/7/03 11:04:50 AM Eastern Daylight

Time,

writes:

> She started taking my tea a little over a month ago and her

> brain tumor is shrinking now. They believe she will be just fine. A

> friend of mine cured his own prostate and testicular cancer in a

> month with this tea. That was back in 1997 and he hasn't had a

> recurrence. I would be happy to talk to anyone about the tea. Go to

> the website for my phone number and call me if you want.

> The link to this site is:

> http://www.finitesite.com/spiritlady/tea.htm

>

Joan

Do you wildcraft these herbs yourself for your version of Ojibwa herb

tea/Essiac? There is a difference in the formula of your product and that of

Glum's posted as a link on your site. Yours substitutes Bloodroot for Turkey

rhubarb root. What documentation do you have to support that substitution?

Also, I could find no use directions: preparation, dosing, etc.

Do you provide a money back guarantee? $350.00 is a whole lot of $$$ for

some of us.

I look forward to your response.

MJH

October 7, 2003

I can tell by your question that you didn't go to the website and read. I put

that link there so you could get educated about it. Actually we call it Ojibwa

tea. Some refer to it as Essiac tea but if you go to the website and read,

you'll realize that most of what people call Essiac (and Ojibwa) on the net

today isn't even the real formula given to Rene Case. Most of those formulas

have inferior herbs and substituted herbs. Most of these teas have rhubarb in it

and that is not even in the original formula given by the Ojibwan Indian

medicine man. My tea is the real formula. My tea comes from Dr. Glum himself. I

urge you to check out my site and read. It is not very long. I tried to be

concise so as not to waste anyone's time but to still give enough info so people

can make an informed decision. This tea is excellent and heals over 98% of the

cases. With all these companies getting busted, I can't tell you how long this

site will be here or how long I can offer it so I suggest to

anyone who has cancer or ANY disease to get this tea and I don't just suggest

it cause I profit from it but because it works! My God, if I had cancer this

would be the only thing I would need along with a raw vegetable diet. There is

no reason for anyone to die of cancer if they take this tea before they get to

the point of no return. It saddens me that people don't seem to want to get

educated about this. The sooner you get educated and make the right choice, the

sooner you can start on the real road to recovery.

http://www.finitesite.com/spiritlady/tea.htm

I can only offer the link, I can't make you read it. You have to do that

yourself. I am not trying to be rude, but time is of essence and education is

the key and so is actually getting the product. But first you have to read so

you can be informed so you can make a decision. Unless you have the tea and take

it, it won't save you. Those of us out there putting on freedom and lives on the

line trying to help cancer victims are dropping like flies these days so please

take the time to read and purchase while you still have the opportunity.

K Ott <kott1999@...> wrote:

This sounds like Essiac Tea. Is it the same?

foxhillers@... wrote:In a message dated 10/7/03 11:04:50 AM Eastern Daylight

Time,

writes:

> She started taking my tea a little over a month ago and her

> brain tumor is shrinking now. They believe she will be just fine. A

> friend of mine cured his own prostate and testicular cancer in a

> month with this tea. That was back in 1997 and he hasn't had a

> recurrence. I would be happy to talk to anyone about the tea. Go to

> the website for my phone number and call me if you want.

> The link to this site is:

> http://www.finitesite.com/spiritlady/tea.htm

>

Joan

Do you wildcraft these herbs yourself for your version of Ojibwa herb

tea/Essiac? There is a difference in the formula of your product and that of

Glum's posted as a link on your site. Yours substitutes Bloodroot for Turkey

rhubarb root. What documentation do you have to support that substitution?

Also, I could find no use directions: preparation, dosing, etc.

Do you provide a money back guarantee? $350.00 is a whole lot of $$$ for

some of us.

I look forward to your response.

MJH

October 7, 2003

Ok, to start with. I do not grow the herbs myself but yes they are wildcrafted

according to the person I get it from that gets it from . Please don't ask

me to reveal my source because for one, that is proprietory information that I

don't give out and also people that deal with healing victims of cancer and

other diseases are paranoid since many have been threatened and are afraid.

Therefore I don't what to put their lives in jeopardy. I hope you understand.

The link on my site is an article with Glum, this link is still on my

server. As far as the substitution goes, this is the situation as I understand

it. paid a lot of money for the formula from an unknown source. He also

went to Bracebridge, Canada to talk to McPherson (Rene's closest friend).

By that point, had already purchased the formula and so didn't feel

like she was betraying Rene by giving all her records to . (what records

weren't burned by the government anyway) wanted to write a book about Rene

and so I guess trusted and felt that Rene's records would be better

off with him than anywhere else. From what I understand Rene Case changed the

original formula that came from the Ojibwan tribe and that is where the rhubarb

got into the formula. I don't know if Rene changed it just in her notes (in case

the government raided her place and got it so they wouldn't get the original

formula) or if she used rhubarb in her formula while

healing people. She was very secretive about making her formula. She wouldn't

even let people watch her make it. The original formula from the Ojibwan tribe

had bloodroot in it according to the unknown source that bought it from and

I believe that was confirmed by McPherson when went to see her. At

least this is how I understand it. released the formula with the rhubarb in

it. We call that the secondary formula. Probably because he paid so much for the

original formula is why he probably didn't want to release it and I don't blame

him for that. I don't know exactly. Even so, many companies substituted herbs

and used inferior herbs and even added more herbs totally screwing up the

formula after that.

There are two basic formulas out there. I understand that bloodroot was in the

original formula. I have no proof. I got this info from the guy I get it from.

He says he knows and told me this to be the case. He has worked with both

formulas for over 10 years and he said he refuses to provide any formula except

the one with the bloodroot in it, which is the one I provide. He said he lost

people when he used the inferior formula and so he won't use it anymore. He was

very upset about losing these people but they weren't willing to pay for the

formula with the bloodroot in it so they bought the inferior formula

instead. I can't help what sells the herbs for. I understand he has to pay

people to harvest these herbs in the wild without the use of machinery.

The directions and dosage come with the tea when you purchase it.

As far as a guarantee. I can't guarantee that it will heal anyone. That would be

impossible. I have no idea what people have done to their bodies already. I

don't know if they have had chemo, radiation, surgery, drugs, or if their liver

is completely gone or another organ so their is no way anyone out there can make

a guarantee that like. I can't give money back because I pay quite a lot for it

and again I have no idea what damage is done already to a person's health. I

don't know what kind of food they consume, what is in the water they consume, if

they are immersed in electromagnetic fields, if they work in a nuclear facility,

etc. There is no way to guarantee that someone will live. No one can make that

guarantee. They must change the reasons they got cancer in the first place. The

tea won't change that, it will only start healing the body as best as possible

with what nutrients it has to work with. I give the statistics of it healing

over 98% because that is what my friend who

has worked with it for 10 years has found. Rene's success rate was very high

like that too. She was only allowed to work with the patients that were given up

on by the doctors...in other words, the hopeless cases..the ones who were

goners. And yet she saved many of them. Sometimes people are saved when they

only have days to live.

My proof is in hearing the stories I have heard from my friend who has worked

with it for ten years. My proof is in the fact that a woman who was sent home to

die from a brain tumor is now getting healthier and her tumor is shrinking after

getting the tea from me and taking it for a little over a month. That is my

proof but it started with faith.

It is good that you are asking these questions and trying to get as much proof.

I am sorry I can not offer you more proof or other info like proof that

bloodroot was in the original formula. I am going on my intution, my gut feeling

that the guy I am getting it from is telling the truth and I think he is.

As far as the price is concerned. I am sure by now you read my page about " If

you think the price is too high " . If not, please go back and read it. I know

that this tea is a bit steep. But people pay way more money for things that

don't give near the value. I wish it didn't cost so much for me to buy it, then

I wouldn't have to charge so much. But come on we are talking about a tea that

is worth way more than what it is priced at for what it does. I find that the

real reason people don't want to pay that kind of money is because they don't

value their health as much as something tangible like a car or an appliance or

something like that. Health isn't something you really " see " in a sense so

people don't feel like they are getting much. But if you get the tea and find

your health improving and feel better, then you will see the value in paying the

price but maybe not until after you get better or until you get that " tangible "

result. A superior product demands a higher price. If you

want to buy the $20 tea and take your chances, go ahead. I believe in this

product enough to justify it's price.

I suggest that if you want the tea and can't afford it that you find 35 people

who would be willing to donate $10 to give you a chance to live. A church may be

the place to start. Your friends and family is also a place to start. Jesus said

ask and thou shall receive.

When people know, you'll probably get more money than you need. I would give

you the tea if I was a millionaire. I am a single mom barely able to afford to

even stay alive at this point. If I told you my money situation, you wouldn't

even believe it. I am not looking for sympathy. I am simply trying to make a

living and help people at the same time. I hope you understand my position.

Personally I think the 87 billion that the government is spending on Iraq and

all the money they have wasted over these years should be spend on tea like this

and given to all cancer victims and others but they made cancer so they could

make money (among other reasons) so they aren't going to heal people now.

If people think I am greedy for setting the tea at this price, then all I can

say is, " Do you work for free? People need lawyers and yet they don't give out

their services for free.

Why doesn't the doctor give away free chemo sessions? I mean come on, I pay

bills too. I don't live in a big fancy house in an affluent neighborhood and

drive a Lexus like the doctors who are killing people do. Ok, I am done

venting..lol.

I hope this answers your questions.

Joan R.

www.finitesite.com/spiritlady/tea.htm

foxhillers@... wrote:

In a message dated 10/7/03 11:04:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> She started taking my tea a little over a month ago and her

> brain tumor is shrinking now. They believe she will be just fine. A

> friend of mine cured his own prostate and testicular cancer in a

> month with this tea. That was back in 1997 and he hasn't had a

> recurrence. I would be happy to talk to anyone about the tea. Go to

> the website for my phone number and call me if you want.

> The link to this site is:

> http://www.finitesite.com/spiritlady/tea.htm

>

Joan

Do you wildcraft these herbs yourself for your version of Ojibwa herb

tea/Essiac? There is a difference in the formula of your product and that of

Glum's posted as a link on your site. Yours substitutes Bloodroot for Turkey

rhubarb root. What documentation do you have to support that substitution?

Also, I could find no use directions: preparation, dosing, etc.

Do you provide a money back guarantee? $350.00 is a whole lot of $$$ for

some of us.

I look forward to your response.

MJH

October 8, 2003

Me thinks you protest too much.

Les Catterall

--

> Ok, to start with. I do not grow the herbs myself but yes

> they are wildcrafted according to the person I get it from

> that gets it from . Please don't ask me to reveal my

> source because for one, that is proprietory information that

> I don't give out and also people that ....

>

> <snip> <yawn>

October 8, 2003

" Me thinks? "

Me thinks you don't know how to speak. I am simply defending myself.

ltcatterall <ltcatterall@...> wrote:Me thinks you protest too much.

Les Catterall

--

> Ok, to start with. I do not grow the herbs myself but yes

> they are wildcrafted according to the person I get it from

> that gets it from . Please don't ask me to reveal my

> source because for one, that is proprietory information that

> I don't give out and also people that ....

>

> <snip> <yawn>

October 8, 2003

Dearest balancedspirit,

> " Me thinks? "

>Me thinks you don't know how to speak. I am simply defending myself.

Me thinks you have some reading to catch up on. It's Shakespeare, even I

recognized it immediately. As far as knowing how to speak, the folks you've

challenged here are far more articulate (and, if may I add, knowledgable) than

yourself, you should watch your accusations.

October 8, 2003

Dear Balanced Spirit,

I have been holding my tongue up until this point in the hopes that you would

see the error of your ways. But I can't help but wonder why you think that you

could come to a group such as this in effort to peddle your " cure " at a rate

more than 5 times the going price? I just recently ordered a 3 month supply of

Essiac Tea from Resperin (the company to whom Rene Caisse sold her formula) at a

price of $65 including shipping. This is well below your price of $350. Most

of us in this group are desperately looking to heal either ourselves or a loved

one. We are all too often confronted by people who are trying to profit from

our maladies and prey on our fears.

I know that you are a single mother trying to make a living. But there has got

to be a better way. I too am a single mother desperately trying to beat cancer

so that I can raise my 3 year old. I can't tell you how many people I have come

across who want to sell me their " cure " out of the goodness of their heart while

sucking my bank account dry.

I'm not trying to attack you, just trying to educate you a bit.

Ali <ali@...> wrote:

Dearest balancedspirit,

> " Me thinks? "

>Me thinks you don't know how to speak. I am simply defending myself.

Me thinks you have some reading to catch up on. It's Shakespeare, even I

recognized it immediately. As far as knowing how to speak, the folks you've

challenged here are far more articulate (and, if may I add, knowledgable) than

yourself, you should watch your accusations.

October 8, 2003

i understand everyone's problem with Balanced Spirit but i also understand her

dilemma. ....

IF she has found a source of herbs she thinks is superior to all other sources

AND she has had good results , i then understand why she is selling them. For

those of you NOT in business : Balanced Spirit may not be making any or much $

at all!!!!. Of course ALL business people MUST charge more for the product than

they paid for it PLUS she must add in all other costs of doing business (eg

rent, insurance,web costs, labor, shipping, utilities etc) just to break even.

Since she MUST make a profit ( rent cannot be paid with good intentions and

NOBODY should work for free unless its voluntary ...otherwise we call it

slavery)...she MUST add a % over and above ALL other costs to be able to offer

the merchandise for sale at all.

Even if OTHERs prices are lower ( they may or may NOT be the same quality and

quantitiy) HER costs may more than others and it IS possible that her products

ARE superior and therefor SHOULD be more expensive!

I do NOT know if Balanced Spirit's products are better orworse than others and i

do NOT know what her costs or motives are,but there may be a reason other than

greed. She may honestly believe she has a source that is indeed superior ( and

she may actually have one) If she does think that she should offer the products

for sale. itsthe only MORAL thing to do!( assuming that to be so)

We all profit to some degree from the misfortunes of others . Its a misfortune

when ( for me) when my car wears out but not to the car salesman; its a

misfortune when i break a leg but not to the DRs that repair it.....That does

NOT mean that we do not honestly want to help another person;that does not mean

that we have no compassion..

.. ...its just the way the world is...

and come on guys...there are legitimate reason to criticize but leave the name

calling and the other negative stuff out....

you can always ignore post such as these if you think it proper or even

criticize if you leave personalities out of it...

we are all here to help ourselves, our family, and friends out with information

and sources....i would rather see a few 'questionable sources mentioned than run

the risk of missing something because it was deemed " commercial "

jeff

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