Re: Alternatives to Pain Medication?

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

> control? Experience?

The most effective natural ways to eliminate pain are:

- colonics

- coffee enama

- liver flush, kidney cleanse

- parasites cleanse

- juice fasting

- hyperthermia - cold sheet treatment

- water cure

- cancer diet, no processed foods

- chiropractic, bone correction treatment

- massage, massage with animal fat

- acupressure

- acupuncture

- homeopathic remedies

- korean cautery

- Korean Moxa cautery – moxa treatment

- valeriana herb

The best is to combine all available...

You can find explanation on all those therapies if you go to

curezone.com and use search engine ...

[Guest guest]

Rife machines work great for pain. There are lots of websites about rife

machines and has a group also.

Ellen

> Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

> control? Experience?

[Guest guest]

> Rife machines work great for pain. There are lots of websites

about rife

> machines and has a group also.

> Ellen

>

> > Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

> > control? Experience?

I have experience with and would second what Agnes and Ellen

suggest.

It's been 4 years since I was diagnosed with cancer. Plate zapping

the painful organ, ie right and left lung and ribs, and making

homeographic drops of those organs along with homeographic lymph

drops have taken care of any pain I have had, though I should add

that as far as I know my cancer has not metastacized so I have not

dealt with that kind of pain.

I use Hulda 's methods and would urge any cancer patient

considering her program to buy the new updated HIV book that she

released last fall to learn the methods above. I would also urge

anyone with cancer to use the A5 zapper which is the zapper that

Hulda has the cancer patients at her clinic use and is the only

zapper commercially available that has had her personal input in the

design and manufacture of it.

[Guest guest]

,

I once saw an article about how detrimental morphine is to the immune

system, and how it can spell the end for cancer patients. This may have ben

in a dr mercola article, I can't remember. I would say to wean him as

easily yet quickly as you can. The Budwig protocol offers some pain relief

in itself. I also find relief from herbs ( graviola blends) and also from a

mix given to me by a chinese herbalist that included astralgus and 2 other

herbs. Maybe seeing a chinese herbalist would be good. Where are you located?

I have also found pain relief following holographic repatterning sessions

that cleared energy blockage.

good luck,

Virginia

At 06:55 PM 11/6/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>I was just wanting to hear some thoughts on alternative pain meds.

>

>Right now, my husband is taking loads of Morphine for

>pain " control " .

>

>I wanted to know, does taking morphine have any negative or

>counteractive effects of The Apricot Seed Protocol, or the Budwig

>Protocol? (And does anyone know if these two protocols are

>counterproductive to do at the same time?)

>

>Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

>control? Experience?

>

>My husband has basal cell cancer on his lungs (and possibly in the

>rib bones).

>

>Any ideas, thoughts, opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

>

>I can be emailed privately if that is preferred:

>jeracat @ tampabay.rr.com.

>

>Thank you,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dr Gerson,

States that TAHITIAN NONI® Juice is 70% as effective as morphine without the

side effect and is not addictive. Since it is a fruit juice it is safe.

It has also been shown to have postitive effects in fighting and preventing

cancer.

for more info contact me direct leskruse@... or go to http://www

leskruse.com and get my

free newsletter.

Les

-- Re: [ ] Alternatives to Pain Medication?

,

I once saw an article about how detrimental morphine is to the immune

system, and how it can spell the end for cancer patients. This may have ben

in a dr mercola article, I can't remember. I would say to wean him as

easily yet quickly as you can. The Budwig protocol offers some pain relief

in itself. I also find relief from herbs ( graviola blends) and also from a

mix given to me by a chinese herbalist that included astralgus and 2 other

herbs. Maybe seeing a chinese herbalist would be good. Where are you

located?

I have also found pain relief following holographic repatterning sessions

that cleared energy blockage.

good luck,

Virginia

At 06:55 PM 11/6/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>I was just wanting to hear some thoughts on alternative pain meds.

>

>Right now, my husband is taking loads of Morphine for

>pain " control " .

>

>I wanted to know, does taking morphine have any negative or

>counteractive effects of The Apricot Seed Protocol, or the Budwig

>Protocol? (And does anyone know if these two protocols are

>counterproductive to do at the same time?)

>

>Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

>control? Experience?

>

>My husband has basal cell cancer on his lungs (and possibly in the

>rib bones).

>

>Any ideas, thoughts, opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

>

>I can be emailed privately if that is preferred:

>jeracat @ tampabay.rr.com.

>

>Thank you,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I live in the Tampa Bay, FL area.

I did find an article which explained why Morphine is detrimental to cancer

patients. I printed it out and let my husband read it, and he agrees that

he should be weaned off the morphine. In the article it recommends using a

drug called tramadol instead. Does anyone know anything about this drug? I

would prefer he not be on ANY drugs, but if alternative methods do not work,

we may need to stick with it.

Re: [ ] Alternatives to Pain Medication?

,

I once saw an article about how detrimental morphine is to the immune

system, and how it can spell the end for cancer patients. This may have

ben

in a dr mercola article, I can't remember. I would say to wean him as

easily yet quickly as you can. The Budwig protocol offers some pain relief

in itself. I also find relief from herbs ( graviola blends) and also from

a

mix given to me by a chinese herbalist that included astralgus and 2 other

herbs. Maybe seeing a chinese herbalist would be good. Where are you

located?

I have also found pain relief following holographic repatterning sessions

that cleared energy blockage.

good luck,

Virginia

At 06:55 PM 11/6/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>I was just wanting to hear some thoughts on alternative pain meds.

>

>Right now, my husband is taking loads of Morphine for

>pain " control " .

>

>I wanted to know, does taking morphine have any negative or

>counteractive effects of The Apricot Seed Protocol, or the Budwig

>Protocol? (And does anyone know if these two protocols are

>counterproductive to do at the same time?)

>

>Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

>control? Experience?

>

>My husband has basal cell cancer on his lungs (and possibly in the

>rib bones).

>

>Any ideas, thoughts, opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

>

>I can be emailed privately if that is preferred:

>jeracat @ tampabay.rr.com.

>

>Thank you,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

DMSO would be one way to go.

If it irritates the skin a bit, apply Aloha Vera with it.

Second choice: MSM gel.

Gubi

Re: [ ] Alternatives to Pain Medication?

>

>

> ,

> I once saw an article about how detrimental morphine is to the immune

> system, and how it can spell the end for cancer patients. This may have

> ben

> in a dr mercola article, I can't remember. I would say to wean him as

> easily yet quickly as you can. The Budwig protocol offers some pain

relief

> in itself. I also find relief from herbs ( graviola blends) and also

from

> a

> mix given to me by a chinese herbalist that included astralgus and 2

other

> herbs. Maybe seeing a chinese herbalist would be good. Where are you

> located?

>

> I have also found pain relief following holographic repatterning

sessions

> that cleared energy blockage.

>

> good luck,

> Virginia

>

> At 06:55 PM 11/6/2003 +0000, you wrote:

> >I was just wanting to hear some thoughts on alternative pain meds.

> >

> >Right now, my husband is taking loads of Morphine for

> >pain " control " .

> >

> >I wanted to know, does taking morphine have any negative or

> >counteractive effects of The Apricot Seed Protocol, or the Budwig

> >Protocol? (And does anyone know if these two protocols are

> >counterproductive to do at the same time?)

> >

> >Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

> >control? Experience?

> >

> >My husband has basal cell cancer on his lungs (and possibly in the

> >rib bones).

> >

> >Any ideas, thoughts, opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

> >

> >I can be emailed privately if that is preferred:

> >jeracat @ tampabay.rr.com.

> >

> >Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You should be able to find a Chinese healer in your area. You could get

herbs and acupuncture. I had great luck with acupuncture for nausea during

radiation treatment.

I'm glad you found an article about morphine.

Virginia

At 11:49 PM 11/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>I live in the Tampa Bay, FL area.

>

>I did find an article which explained why Morphine is detrimental to cancer

>patients. I printed it out and let my husband read it, and he agrees that

>he should be weaned off the morphine. In the article it recommends using a

>drug called tramadol instead. Does anyone know anything about this drug? I

>would prefer he not be on ANY drugs, but if alternative methods do not work,

>we may need to stick with it.

>

>

> Re: [ ] Alternatives to Pain Medication?

>

>

> ,

> I once saw an article about how detrimental morphine is to the immune

> system, and how it can spell the end for cancer patients. This may have

>ben

> in a dr mercola article, I can't remember. I would say to wean him as

> easily yet quickly as you can. The Budwig protocol offers some pain relief

> in itself. I also find relief from herbs ( graviola blends) and also from

>a

> mix given to me by a chinese herbalist that included astralgus and 2 other

> herbs. Maybe seeing a chinese herbalist would be good. Where are you

>located?

>

> I have also found pain relief following holographic repatterning sessions

> that cleared energy blockage.

>

> good luck,

> Virginia

>

> At 06:55 PM 11/6/2003 +0000, you wrote:

> >I was just wanting to hear some thoughts on alternative pain meds.

> >

> >Right now, my husband is taking loads of Morphine for

> >pain " control " .

> >

> >I wanted to know, does taking morphine have any negative or

> >counteractive effects of The Apricot Seed Protocol, or the Budwig

> >Protocol? (And does anyone know if these two protocols are

> >counterproductive to do at the same time?)

> >

> >Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

> >control? Experience?

> >

> >My husband has basal cell cancer on his lungs (and possibly in the

> >rib bones).

> >

> >Any ideas, thoughts, opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

> >

> >I can be emailed privately if that is preferred:

> >jeracat @ tampabay.rr.com.

> >

> >Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Astragalus is my magic bullet for the flu. Much better

results than the flu shot!

sincerely, Dr Jim Bowen

--- Sitz <ginasitz@...> wrote:

> ,

> I once saw an article about how detrimental morphine

> is to the immune

> system, and how it can spell the end for cancer

> patients. This may have ben

> in a dr mercola article, I can't remember. I would

> say to wean him as

> easily yet quickly as you can. The Budwig protocol

> offers some pain relief

> in itself. I also find relief from herbs ( graviola

> blends) and also from a

> mix given to me by a chinese herbalist that included

> astralgus and 2 other

> herbs. Maybe seeing a chinese herbalist would be

> good. Where are you located?

>

> I have also found pain relief following holographic

> repatterning sessions

> that cleared energy blockage.

>

> good luck,

> Virginia

>

> At 06:55 PM 11/6/2003 +0000, you wrote:

> >I was just wanting to hear some thoughts on

> alternative pain meds.

> >

> >Right now, my husband is taking loads of Morphine

> for

> >pain " control " .

> >

> >I wanted to know, does taking morphine have any

> negative or

> >counteractive effects of The Apricot Seed Protocol,

> or the Budwig

> >Protocol? (And does anyone know if these two

> protocols are

> >counterproductive to do at the same time?)

> >

> >Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective)

> alternative pain

> >control? Experience?

> >

> >My husband has basal cell cancer on his lungs (and

> possibly in the

> >rib bones).

> >

> >Any ideas, thoughts, opinions would be appreciated.

> Thanks.

> >

> >I can be emailed privately if that is preferred:

> >jeracat @ tampabay.rr.com.

> >

> >Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone have any thoughts about (Effective) alternative pain

> control? Experience?

Hi ,

there's a class of natural pain relief remedies little known in the

West, known as Dit Da Jows. They were originally developed for

Oriental martial arts practitioners and, like all natural recipes,

come in a great many varieties. They are for external use

only but can be very effective for moderate pain (I don't know how

well they work for severe pain). The two main

categories of Dit Da Jows are " hot " (not in temperature but in terms

of the " warming " effects on the body -- these help with stagnant, old,

resistant conditions) and " cold " (anti-inflammatory). I found a site

that sells them,

http://www.ditdajows.com/commerce.cgi?cart_id=423979.3066

but I haven't used their products and don't know how good they are.

(I make my own Dit Da Jow, a simplified version.)

Good luck,

Elena

[Guest guest]

Natural Approaches to Relieving Cancer Pain

(CAPITALIZED items are reportedly most effective)

FOODS:

flaxseed oil mixed w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC) or yogurt

cherries

tempeh & FERMENTED SOY products-- reduces inflammation

HERBS:

FLOR-ESSENCE/ESSIAC

NONI JUICE

mushrooms-- MAITAKE (alleviated pain in 83% of patients), CORDYCEPS, shiitake &

reishi

YAN HU SUO--from Chinese fumewort; " HAS BEEN COMPARED TO MORPHINE "

www.naturalhealthconsult.com/Monographs/yanhusuo.html

PURPLE CONE FLOWER-- www.theherbfinder.com/index

LOBELIA-- www.theherbfinder.com/index

angelica

Pau d'Arco

goldenseal root poultices

echinacea

mistletoe (e.g., Iscador)-- use only under medical supervision

chaparral--check with a practitioner on hazards before using it

Pain caused by inflammation can be reduced by anti-inflammatory herbs (e.g.,

turmeric/curcumin, burdock, ginger)

VITAMINS:

Vitamin B-3 (Niacin)-- 50 mg, up to 6x/day (in Gerson therapy)

Vit. C-- I've seen 500 mg, 6x/day recommended

Vit. K

AMYGDALIN-- relieves pain, nausea, and vomiting. Available in the form of ground

apricot pits. Do NOT exceed recommended oral dosage. Do NOT take megadoses of

Vit. C while taking Laetrile/amygdalin (unless directed by physician), and do

NOT use Laetrile/amygdalin at times of fever. Take it with food, in several

small dosages throughout the day (NOT 1 large dosage). Use a good brand.

MISC.

fish oil

homeopathic remedies-- particularly Aconitum (1M or 10M dose)

poly-MVA

CoQ10-- at least 200mg/day

protease (bromelain & pancreatin)--reduce inflammation if taken on empty stomach

hydrazine sulfate

germanium-132 (Ge-132)-- very effective pain reliever; take moderate to large

doses ONLY under supervision of physician

alkalinzing one's body

CESIUM-- use ONLY under medical supervision. May take up to 3 days to be

effective. For more info on cesium for pain relief, see " The Pain of Terminal

Cancer on pp. 313- of Painfree in Six Weeks by Sherry ; reprinted at

www.getandstaywell.com/archive32.shtml

dental detox-- elimination of dental infections (consult a holistic dentist)

castor oil packs

coffee enemas and other detox methods

MAGNETS-- see Diamond et al. (1997, pp. 1032-1046)

Rife machines

HULDA CLARK'S " ZAPPER "

Reiki & other energy healing

prayer

VISUALIZATION/IMAGERY, MEDITATION, & RELAXATION TECHNIQUES

exercise

For more info on mind-body approaches,

www.annieappleseedproject.org/annieappleseedproject/painfordealw.html

PAIN CONTROL and SURGICAL SUPPORT series audiotapes by Hemi-Sync

(www.hemi-sync.com/catalog)-- I've been told they can be powerfully

pain-relieving.

acupuncture

neural therapy

polarizing treatment (GKI)

" Dr. Rowen in his newsletter Second Opinion, wrote about the remarkable

results obtained by simply exerting a slight pressure on the edge of a muscle or

tendon...applied in a 90 degree direction perpendicular to its line of force.

This results in a relaxation of the muscle or tendon....originated by Tom

Bowen....can be used for Muscle sprains, carpal tunnel..., elbow problems, PMS,

menopause, fibroids, prostate problems, sciatica, migraines, ear

problems...TMJ...respiratory problems and even organ dysfunctions....Bowen

Registry...866-862-6936....USBR@...)

For more info on cancer pain relief, see www.alkalizeforhealth.org

www.stopcancer.com/pain.htm

www.painsupport.co.uk (natural methods; not specifically cancer)

For healing cancer, it's best (if possible) to AVOID/minimize the use of opiates

and chemical painkillers other than (possibly) aspirin and naltrexone.