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Hi Darla,

be careful with the Breuss cancer cure. We had a patient in our

cures for cancergroup who did the Breuss cure very strict and he died of

malnutrition.

I spoke two years ago with the nephew of the deceased Rudolf

Breuss in Austria to see some of the pretended 40 000 cures for cancer

testimonials. But the nephew told me that all the testimonials were destroyed

after Breuss dead by the new owner

of his house ????

In my opinion is the Breuss cure an exellent cleansing cure but not a

cures for cancer, at least not without additional orthomolecular

treatment.

pelcka

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I appreciate your feedback. Interesting, this is the first negative thing I have

heard about this. I know people who have done it and did very well. Could you

give me a bit more info, the age and health of the patient? What do you mean by

orthomolecular treatment? Are you someone dealing with cancer? Thanks for you

help.

Darla

pelcka@... wrote:Hi Darla,

be careful with the Breuss cancer cure. We had a patient in our

cures for cancergroup who did the Breuss cure very strict and he died of

malnutrition.

I spoke two years ago with the nephew of the deceased Rudolf

Breuss in Austria to see some of the pretended 40 000 cures for cancer

testimonials. But the nephew told me that all the testimonials were destroyed

after Breuss dead by the new owner

of his house ????

In my opinion is the Breuss cure an exellent cleansing cure but not a

cures for cancer, at least not without additional orthomolecular

treatment.

pelcka

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It is common sense that fasting, including juice fasting or avoidance of any

protein is not suitable for cancer patients.

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> Hi Darla,

>

> please see the info: www.paralex.info/breuss.htm

> It is written in german, you can print it out and find someone who

> can translate it for you. There is all the information against the

> Breuss cure for cancerpatients.

>

> pelcka

>

>

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I do not believe it is common sense to avoid fasting. When your body is ill it

makes sense that you should let it focus it's energy on healing not constantly

on digestion and elimination. Common sense would dictate that a person should

not ingest posion/chemotherapy and radiation and have body parts cut off. Which

is exactly what so many million people do every year blindly following

convention. Common sense is: that what we put into our bodies has a great deal

to do with our state of health, and that our ill-emotional and spiritual state

is very much linked to disease. We are made in the image of God, and our bodies

as such are brilliant, if we give them the proper help and circumstances they

can and will heal themselves.

Darla

gubisara <gubisara@...> wrote:It is common sense that fasting,

including juice fasting or avoidance of any

protein is not suitable for cancer patients.

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> Hi Darla,

>

> please see the info: www.paralex.info/breuss.htm

> It is written in german, you can print it out and find someone who

> can translate it for you. There is all the information against the

> Breuss cure for cancerpatients.

>

> pelcka

>

>

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Darla,

I believe you missunderstood me. Read my message again. I don't write that

it is common sense to avoid fasting. I have been fasting for years, juice

fasts and water fast. I have done it all, and I will be the last person to

object to fasting. I do however stand by my position that when one has

cancer, juice or water fasts only is not a proper diet.

While a 40 day water fast will be beneficial for helping our bodies curing

many ailments, it will do more harm than good for someone who has cancer.

one of only several reasons for that would be the tremendous amount of detox

that will take place and which could put the person in danger should the

fast continues.

You have to remember that our bodies are constantly detoxing and even a

regiment such as the Gerson, the Budwick's or any other one that would use

solid nutrition building blocks are intended to do just that.

and yes, I also think it is a function of one's state of health and how

advanced is the progression of the disease. No cancer patient is like any

other cancer patient. It depends on the type of cancer, whether it is

metastesized or not and to what degree etc. So, there might be some

exceptions, but in the vast majority of cases fasting for people with cancer

is at least not the initial road to recovery.

I completely agree with your other statements.

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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:43 PM

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>

> I do not believe it is common sense to avoid fasting. When your body is

ill it makes sense that you should let it focus it's energy on healing not

constantly on digestion and elimination. Common sense would dictate that a

person should not ingest posion/chemotherapy and radiation and have body

parts cut off. Which is exactly what so many million people do every year

blindly following convention. Common sense is: that what we put into our

bodies has a great deal to do with our state of health, and that our

ill-emotional and spiritual state is very much linked to disease. We are

made in the image of God, and our bodies as such are brilliant, if we give

them the proper help and circumstances they can and will heal themselves.

> Darla

> gubisara <gubisara@...> wrote:It is common sense that fasting,

including juice fasting or avoidance of any

> protein is not suitable for cancer patients.

>

> Re: [ ] Read about cleanses

>

>

> > Hi Darla,

> >

> > please see the info: www.paralex.info/breuss.htm

> > It is written in german, you can print it out and find someone who

> > can translate it for you. There is all the information against the

> > Breuss cure for cancerpatients.

> >

> > pelcka

> >

> >

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Thanks for these comments friends;

I have a theory that one contributing factor to the increase of cancer in our

modern day society is the fact that we don't fast, nor do we teach our children

to fast as the Israelites and the early Christians once did..Can you imagine how

much healthier we'd all be if we'd fasted during our childhood..One could almost

garauntee that there'd be hardly any cancers and allergies, among other

things..One of the " laws " in the OT was that a field had to lie " fallow " (not

planted or harvested) for one year out of seven and that same principle was

applied to the human digestive system in that it was given a rest from

digesting so that it could eliminate toxins (if any in those days) and to

increase spiritual awareness..Fasting was almost always a factor in " miraculous "

healings and still is today, and in fact I consider fasting to be my greatest

" hope " of full recovery; if all else fails..I've been thinking a lot about

fasting these days and I have been doing so off and on during this ordeal with

cancer..I've found that the most positive advances in combatting this disease

have been while on a 3 day fast..I'm a little reluctant to go any longer for

obvious reasons..Has anyone been known to be healed or of cancerous tumours

retreating during a prolonged fast? That would be interesting to know..

melville ;-)

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Mel,

Thanks for your insightful comments about fasting. I agree with you. Yes, many

people have been helped with cancer by prolonged fasting. I know a few people

personally and there are also many good books out there with testimonials that

are hard to ignore. One of those books is The Breuss Cancer Cure, it is a very

good read and if you have been working on cleansing and building your body for

some time...something I would seriously consider. I am going to start it in a

week. Also check out Freedom You, Fasting and juicing website. God Bless You

Darla

Mel <jonah@...> wrote:Thanks for these comments friends;

I have a theory that one contributing factor to the increase of cancer in our

modern day society is the fact that we don't fast, nor do we teach our children

to fast as the Israelites and the early Christians once did..Can you imagine how

much healthier we'd all be if we'd fasted during our childhood..One could almost

garauntee that there'd be hardly any cancers and allergies, among other

things..One of the " laws " in the OT was that a field had to lie " fallow " (not

planted or harvested) for one year out of seven and that same principle was

applied to the human digestive system in that it was given a rest from

digesting so that it could eliminate toxins (if any in those days) and to

increase spiritual awareness..Fasting was almost always a factor in " miraculous "

healings and still is today, and in fact I consider fasting to be my greatest

" hope " of full recovery; if all else fails..I've been thinking a lot about

fasting these days and I have been doing so off and on during this ordeal with

cancer..I've found that the most positive advances in combatting this disease

have been while on a 3 day fast..I'm a little reluctant to go any longer for

obvious reasons..Has anyone been known to be healed or of cancerous tumours

retreating during a prolonged fast? That would be interesting to know..

melville ;-)

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Thanks Darla...I did the Master Cleanser Fast back in the early 80's and went

for around 40 days..It was the most incredible trip of my life..People and

friends thought I was going to die as I went down to about less that a hundred

pounds and my normal wieght is about 150..I just had to stretch the limits and

see how far I could go compared to Biblical prophets as Jesus went for 40

days..It was real stupid of me and yet an expereince that I'm glad I had..I'll

never forget the most incredible bowel movement I've ever had wherein it

appeared that I'd passed a 4 ft. phosphourescent sqirming demon worm in a tidal

pool on the west coast of BC...Luckily the tide carried it out to sea in the

glowing sunrise and the native village of Alert Bay was spared.

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Mel,

Thanks for your insightful comments about fasting. I agree with you. Yes, many

people have been helped with cancer by prolonged fasting. I know a few people

personally and there are also many good books out there with testimonials that

are hard to ignore. One of those books is The Breuss Cancer Cure, it is a very

good read and if you have been working on cleansing and building your body for

some time...something I would seriously consider. I am going to start it in a

week. Also check out Freedom You, Fasting and juicing website. God Bless You

Darla

Mel <jonah@...> wrote:Thanks for these comments friends;

I have a theory that one contributing factor to the increase of cancer in our

modern day society is the fact that we don't fast, nor do we teach our children

to fast as the Israelites and the early Christians once did..Can you imagine how

much healthier we'd all be if we'd fasted during our childhood..One could almost

garauntee that there'd be hardly any cancers and allergies, among other

things..One of the " laws " in the OT was that a field had to lie " fallow " (not

planted or harvested) for one year out of seven and that same principle was

applied to the human digestive system in that it was given a rest from

digesting so that it could eliminate toxins (if any in those days) and to

increase spiritual awareness..Fasting was almost always a factor in " miraculous "

healings and still is today, and in fact I consider fasting to be my greatest

" hope " of full recovery; if all else fails..I've been thinking a lot about

fasting these days and I have been doing so off and on during this ordeal with

cancer..I've found that the most positive advances in combatting this disease

have been while on a 3 day fast..I'm a little reluctant to go any longer for

obvious reasons..Has anyone been known to be healed or of cancerous tumours

retreating during a prolonged fast? That would be interesting to know..

melville ;-)

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Thanks for your reply. Did you only have lemon juice, cayenne and maple syrup

for 40 days? How did you feel? Did you have cancer back then? :) Darla

Mel <jonah@...> wrote:Thanks Darla...I did the Master

Cleanser Fast back in the early 80's and went for around 40 days..It was the

most incredible trip of my life..People and friends thought I was going to die

as I went down to about less that a hundred pounds and my normal wieght is about

150..I just had to stretch the limits and see how far I could go compared to

Biblical prophets as Jesus went for 40 days..It was real stupid of me and yet an

expereince that I'm glad I had..I'll never forget the most incredible bowel

movement I've ever had wherein it appeared that I'd passed a 4 ft.

phosphourescent sqirming demon worm in a tidal pool on the west coast of

BC...Luckily the tide carried it out to sea in the glowing sunrise and the

native village of Alert Bay was spared.

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Mel,

Thanks for your insightful comments about fasting. I agree with you. Yes, many

people have been helped with cancer by prolonged fasting. I know a few people

personally and there are also many good books out there with testimonials that

are hard to ignore. One of those books is The Breuss Cancer Cure, it is a very

good read and if you have been working on cleansing and building your body for

some time...something I would seriously consider. I am going to start it in a

week. Also check out Freedom You, Fasting and juicing website. God Bless You

Darla

Mel <jonah@...> wrote:Thanks for these comments friends;

I have a theory that one contributing factor to the increase of cancer in our

modern day society is the fact that we don't fast, nor do we teach our children

to fast as the Israelites and the early Christians once did..Can you imagine how

much healthier we'd all be if we'd fasted during our childhood..One could almost

garauntee that there'd be hardly any cancers and allergies, among other

things..One of the " laws " in the OT was that a field had to lie " fallow " (not

planted or harvested) for one year out of seven and that same principle was

applied to the human digestive system in that it was given a rest from

digesting so that it could eliminate toxins (if any in those days) and to

increase spiritual awareness..Fasting was almost always a factor in " miraculous "

healings and still is today, and in fact I consider fasting to be my greatest

" hope " of full recovery; if all else fails..I've been thinking a lot about

fasting these days and I have been doing so off and on during this ordeal with

cancer..I've found that the most positive advances in combatting this disease

have been while on a 3 day fast..I'm a little reluctant to go any longer for

obvious reasons..Has anyone been known to be healed or of cancerous tumours

retreating during a prolonged fast? That would be interesting to know..

melville ;-)

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I probably did have cancer back then as I was a heavy smoker and drinker in

those days and in fact I smoked and drank copious quantities of coffee (no

booze) even during the fast, which was very unwise of me to say the

least..However I'm sure that the fast did cleanse me of a lot of toxins that

would have later caused cancer or other diseases..At the time that I did the

fast; I was fairly crippled in my left leg and other joints of the body with

arthritus and that was cured as a result of the fast..I remember feeling like I

had the body of a 9 year old..I was able to leap as though I were a professional

basketball player and would take pleasure in " leaping " as much as I could..

I didn't eat any food other than towards the very end of the fast and even then

it was things like " kelp with maply syrup " which was like candy to me..I did the

salt water flush a couple of times every day and that kept the toxin levels down

to a dull roar..To this day I wish that I'd had a camera and taken pictures of

the different phases of my bowel movements which were spectacular, and I just

know that if I had not done the fast at that time in my life (20 years ago); I

would have no doubt sucumbed to a cancer very shortly as all of the elements

were there..

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Thanks for your reply. Did you only have lemon juice, cayenne and maple syrup

for 40 days? How did you feel? Did you have cancer back then? :) Darla

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Mel,

It sounds like you're an Essene. Is that true? Because what you went through

in your fast is exactly what they say will happen. Just curious. You ought

to see what they say on diets. Basically eat nothing cooked. Eat the living,

not the dead. I can give you the info on it if you're interested. I tried it

for three days & have never felt better in years. Unfortunatly I'm

unemployed now & can't afford it, but will go back on it & stay there when

employed again.

Gaylen

>From: " Mel " <jonah@...>

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>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Read about cleanses

>Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:30:03 -0800

>

>Thanks Darla...I did the Master Cleanser Fast back in the early 80's and

>went for around 40 days..It was the most incredible trip of my life..People

>and friends thought I was going to die as I went down to about less that a

>hundred pounds and my normal wieght is about 150..I just had to stretch the

>limits and see how far I could go compared to Biblical prophets as Jesus

>went for 40 days..It was real stupid of me and yet an expereince that I'm

>glad I had..I'll never forget the most incredible bowel movement I've ever

>had wherein it appeared that I'd passed a 4 ft. phosphourescent sqirming

>demon worm in a tidal pool on the west coast of BC...Luckily the tide

>carried it out to sea in the glowing sunrise and the native village of

>Alert Bay was spared.

> Re: [ ] Read about cleanses

>

>

>

>Mel,

>Thanks for your insightful comments about fasting. I agree with you. Yes,

>many people have been helped with cancer by prolonged fasting. I know a few

>people personally and there are also many good books out there with

>testimonials that are hard to ignore. One of those books is The Breuss

>Cancer Cure, it is a very good read and if you have been working on

>cleansing and building your body for some time...something I would

>seriously consider. I am going to start it in a week. Also check out

>Freedom You, Fasting and juicing website. God Bless You

>Darla

>Mel <jonah@...> wrote:Thanks for these comments

>friends;

>I have a theory that one contributing factor to the increase of cancer in

>our modern day society is the fact that we don't fast, nor do we teach our

>children to fast as the Israelites and the early Christians once did..Can

>you imagine how much healthier we'd all be if we'd fasted during our

>childhood..One could almost garauntee that there'd be hardly any cancers

>and allergies, among other things..One of the " laws " in the OT was that a

>field had to lie " fallow " (not planted or harvested) for one year out of

>seven and that same principle was applied to the human digestive system in

>that it was given a rest from digesting so that it could eliminate toxins

>(if any in those days) and to increase spiritual awareness..Fasting was

>almost always a factor in " miraculous " healings and still is today, and in

>fact I consider fasting to be my greatest " hope " of full recovery; if all

>else fails..I've been thinking a lot about fasting these days and I have

>been doing so off and on during this ordeal with cancer..I've found that

>the most positive advances in combatting this disease have been while on a

>3 day fast..I'm a little reluctant to go any longer for obvious

>reasons..Has anyone been known to be healed or of cancerous tumours

>retreating during a prolonged fast? That would be interesting to know..

>melville ;-)

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>

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Hahaha ;-D

NO Gaylen; I'm not an Essene; though some (actually many) have called me

" Insane " ..I would like to see material on their diet and so send it on (personal

of course) as we don't want to clutter up this site with irrevere..oops!!! I

mean irrelevant information..

melvilee ;-)

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Mel,

It sounds like you're an Essene. Is that true? Because what you went through

in your fast is exactly what they say will happen. Just curious. You ought

to see what they say on diets. Basically eat nothing cooked. Eat the living,

not the dead. I can give you the info on it if you're interested. I tried it

for three days & have never felt better in years. Unfortunatly I'm

unemployed now & can't afford it, but will go back on it & stay there when

employed again.

Gaylen

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