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Don,

Your humor is great. Keep it up.

Did you ever work for the phone company? If not, you might have missed

your calling. It is one of the only jobs where you can " reach out and

touch " and not get accused of sexual harrassment! hee hee

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> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:56:05 -0600

> From: " Don Hanson " <donhanson@...>

> Subject: RE: Sleepless

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> Actually, I'm not really sure how an old broad feels...having never felt

> one, myself...though I'm willing to try...<g>

>

> Don

> AIH Minneapolis

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Thanks ..

I deal with usps...and in the past year they've lost three of my

packages...one with insurance (was replaced by usps) and two without..the

two without are valued at 7.99 and after forking over an additional 7.99 +

the 4.30 for shipping...im not doing it again.

She can shop somewhere else.

*S*

Thanks for the posting.

Ellen...My TWO suppliers list Calendula as Marigold..plain and simple

marigold..*shrugs* so to me...its Marigold :)

Lynne..ya get 5 gazzillion woman with 5 gazzillion ideas and cattyness and

cat nails are bound to creap up from time to time...do what I did when it

happened to me...take it with a grain of salt, shrug and let it go...this

list is super fantastic with an extreamly high amount of intellegence...but

....BUT..in the end, its not worth a nervous breakdown or migrains over.

Soaping is for fun Everyone....not for venting...isnt that what our spouces

are for? *heehee*

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on 17/9/00 12:32 am, d-lance at d-lance@... wrote:

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> Ellen...My TWO suppliers list Calendula as Marigold..plain and simple

> marigold..*shrugs* so to me...its Marigold :)

I seem to have missed the beginning the this thread but FYO...

Calendula officinalis is Garden marigold, pot marigold or calendula.

There is no essential oil from this plant though there is a good macerated

oil produced.

Tagetes glandulifera is French marigold, African marigold.

Tagetes is a powerful essential oil but because of the high ketone is not

used by inexperienced people and must be used with extreme caution.

Hope this helps

Natasha

http://www.kamakura-garden.com

Aroma Herbal Body Beauty & Skin Care Secrets

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> Well, I thought I'd give it one more try. I read the " Greek " letter that

was posted on testing done on GSE.

If you are referring to the abstracts that I posted, Debe, they looked like

they were in plain English to me.

>It prompted me to call the manufacturer that I'm dealing with. Now mind

you, this is only one company, so I can't say what others are doing or what

they claim. I talked to one of the chemists and this is what he gave me.

They use NO parabens in their product.

So what; Germall Plus is a very good preservative and it doesn't contain

parabens.

> It's all natural. Ingredients are: dry grapefruit seed powder, glycerin,

acorbic acid, dextrose, citrus bioflavanoids. Does it work as a

preservative? He said yes. Do I believe him? Yes, I do.

I'm not trying to be smart, but for all you know, the person you talked to

could have been the janitor. As Jen pointed out, this combination does not a

preservative make. Why is it easier for you to ignore the hard evidence that

has been presented to you on this list and believe some voice on the phone

that you don't know who he says he is, or whether he is some flunky

salesman. What evidence is he going to produce that proves that they have

not added a commercial preservative to their product? What evidence is he

going to present that this is not a dangerous and toxic product? Is he going

to send you copies of challenge tests done on his product?

>So may say, " You fool " . I say, my choice. If you want the name of the

company and their phone number to verify the information, I can email

privately.

Verify what, that you had a conversation with him? If he is willing to

produce the evidence I spoke of above, I would be happy to talk to him. I'll

tell you what, I would settle for him putting in writing that the only

ingredients in his product are those that you mentioned as long as he

guarantees that this is an effective preservative in lotion and creams that

will stand up to challenge testing.

>I'm not saying this is the only way to go. It's what I prefer. But I'm a

little tired of some acting like they know what's best and anything else is

ignorance. We're all entitled to our opinions.

As Debe Public, you are entitled to all the opinions you want. As soon as

you become Debe Manufacturer, you can still have opinions, but if they

differ from that of your regulating body, you can either change them or reap

what you sow. I resent the implication that me or any of the other people

that have tried to help you with the preservative issue has treated you as

ignorant. All of us are on this list to help each other and I have received

a lot of help from people in areas that I don't know too much about, I

reciprocate in areas that I do know about. Usually it is a thankless job

because I write about preservation and labeling, and there is always a bunch

of people that don't want to do either properly.

>If you want to use Germabin without getting your products tested, go ahead.

Just let me know so I won't buy any of your products. And by the same

token, I'm saying now I'll be using GSE and my products will carry the FDA

warning: the safety of this product has not been determined.

This warning is required by the FDA if your product has not been tested for

safety. It has absolutely nothing to do with preservation and everything to

do with allergic reactions to your product. After everything you have read

recently, are you telling me that you would buy a product with GSE that

hasn't been challenge tested, but you wouldn't buy a product with Germaben

ll? I am a very logical person, and sometimes I expect others to be as

logical, which doesn't always happen. In light of what has been presented to

you, I don't see any logic in what you are still saying.

Pat.

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>NO IT IS -- NOT!!!! -- Please do not confuse calendula with marigold,

>which is species tagetes. Calendula is sometimes referred to as -pot-

>marigold, but it is NOT marigold. Calendula is 'calendula officinalis'.

>They are not the same, and tagetes can be toxic I believe.

> HTH,

> Ellen~

Eeew, I always thought " calendula " and " marigold " were synonomous,

too. Do you know, offhand, the scientific name for marigold?

Thanks,

~F

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During therapy, I have found many people to state their vision has

changed. I do not know of any studies that can state with any certainty

that the Interferon and Ribaviran cause a direct effect, but, I have

heard this from many patients. I usually recommend getting some eye wear

that is less expensive, and that, if your vision does change, you're not

out a great deal of money, but, you don't want to hurt your eyes either.

Also, I strongly recommend a very good pair of sunglasses, with high UV

rating and, for anyone with sensitive eyes may want to get polarized

glasses. Many people, including my wife, have seen permanent changes in

their vision, which usually seems to be positive, especially for

reading. But, even after completion, or stopping of therapy, do what you

need for the " here and now " , but, keep in mind, that 6-12 months after

stopping, your vision may finally stabilize, and that will be where you

go from then on.

Like anything else with this virus, do what you need to do for now, and

hopefully, after you are in remission, you can get back to formal of

" normalcy " . Just stay positive. Marty

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During therapy, I have found many people to state their vision has

changed. I do not know of any studies that can state with any certainty

that the Interferon and Ribaviran cause a direct effect, but, I have

heard this from many patients. I usually recommend getting some eye wear

that is less expensive, and that, if your vision does change, you're not

out a great deal of money, but, you don't want to hurt your eyes either.

Also, I strongly recommend a very good pair of sunglasses, with high UV

rating and, for anyone with sensitive eyes may want to get polarized

glasses. Many people, including my wife, have seen permanent changes in

their vision, which usually seems to be positive, especially for

reading. But, even after completion, or stopping of therapy, do what you

need for the " here and now " , but, keep in mind, that 6-12 months after

stopping, your vision may finally stabilize, and that will be where you

go from then on.

Like anything else with this virus, do what you need to do for now, and

hopefully, after you are in remission, you can get back to formal of

" normalcy " . Just stay positive. Marty

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During therapy, I have found many people to state their vision has

changed. I do not know of any studies that can state with any certainty

that the Interferon and Ribaviran cause a direct effect, but, I have

heard this from many patients. I usually recommend getting some eye wear

that is less expensive, and that, if your vision does change, you're not

out a great deal of money, but, you don't want to hurt your eyes either.

Also, I strongly recommend a very good pair of sunglasses, with high UV

rating and, for anyone with sensitive eyes may want to get polarized

glasses. Many people, including my wife, have seen permanent changes in

their vision, which usually seems to be positive, especially for

reading. But, even after completion, or stopping of therapy, do what you

need for the " here and now " , but, keep in mind, that 6-12 months after

stopping, your vision may finally stabilize, and that will be where you

go from then on.

Like anything else with this virus, do what you need to do for now, and

hopefully, after you are in remission, you can get back to formal of

" normalcy " . Just stay positive. Marty

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During therapy, I have found many people to state their vision has

changed. I do not know of any studies that can state with any certainty

that the Interferon and Ribaviran cause a direct effect, but, I have

heard this from many patients. I usually recommend getting some eye wear

that is less expensive, and that, if your vision does change, you're not

out a great deal of money, but, you don't want to hurt your eyes either.

Also, I strongly recommend a very good pair of sunglasses, with high UV

rating and, for anyone with sensitive eyes may want to get polarized

glasses. Many people, including my wife, have seen permanent changes in

their vision, which usually seems to be positive, especially for

reading. But, even after completion, or stopping of therapy, do what you

need for the " here and now " , but, keep in mind, that 6-12 months after

stopping, your vision may finally stabilize, and that will be where you

go from then on.

Like anything else with this virus, do what you need to do for now, and

hopefully, after you are in remission, you can get back to formal of

" normalcy " . Just stay positive. Marty

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Ok, I know I'm a lurker on this list. But let's keep

down on the personal attack's ! ! ! ;-)

Ron Mc

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0800From: " BILLANDMARTHAMAHAN " Subject: Fw: Mickey D>

> " Mc's 'breakfast for under a dollar' actually>

> costs much more that that. You have to factor in

the> > cost of coronary bypass surgery. " > >> > -

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----- Original Message -----

From: Mc

> Ok, I know I'm a lurker on this list. But let's keep

> down on the personal attack's ! ! ! ;-)

>

Ron:

Maybe if you would stop advertising that Whopper of yours in public . . .

Bill

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Yeah, I know. . .I keep getting into trouble for that.

But do you know how to tell if Mc is in a group of

streakers???

He will be the one with sesame seed buns. . . .

> Ron:

>

> Maybe if you would stop advertising that Whopper of yours in

public . . .

>

> Bill

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Bill and owe me a new keyboard.... too funny!

Sue

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Mc

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> > Ok, I know I'm a lurker on this list. But let's keep

> > down on the personal attack's ! ! ! ;-)

> >

> Ron:

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> Maybe if you would stop advertising that Whopper of yours in public .

> . .

>

> Bill

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> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

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Sorry, I should have said Oxygen has an effect on Mercury toxicity.

> From: rhartsoe <rhartsoe@...>

> Subject: Mercury and HBOT

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> There is an issue as to whether it may be harmful to do hbot while high

> levels of Mercury are present. Oxygen has an effect on Oxygen toxicity.

> Cutler, a scientist, is very knowledgable on this subject and can

> address this issue. His email address is

> AndyCutler@...

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> I would definitely ask the question about whether to do hbot with Mercury

> Toxicity. I tried to find the info I had but my file cabinet is

> overstuffed. Maybe you could post his answer to the group.

>

> Hartsoe

> www.miraclemountain.org

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