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i have discussed this with docs. and have been told to not take temp under

tongue but underarm instead .....is suppose to be more accurate

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dear Diane;

sorry to hear about your mom.hope i can be a little help and relieve

some of your suffering.i have been through the chemo and radiation before

surgery.would not take it after and went with the apricot seeds and

laietril.have not gotten down and think the good Lord he has something else

for me.feel tired a lot but not sick.have known relatives and friends that

took the chem and it wasn't pretty.think radiation may be necessary to a

small degree but not chemo.[ that is the drs.big money maker].

there is a lot of alternatives to look at so ask God to help make the right

decision and i am sure it will all work out good.

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Dear Diane:

I have the same thing and am treating it naturally. There are many books on

what to do, like what to eat, juicing, cleansing, clean up dental work,

remove stress and worry. Many are great sources. I recommend " Cancer Battle "

to start with, it is written in lay terms. You will find guidance from there

to go further. There are great resources in the Internet. Look up Dr.

Schulze's cleanses. If you can find the book called " The Definitive Guide to

Cancer " by Goldberg and Dr. Cowden read the 31 causes of Cancer. Start

cleaning up the ones that apply to you. Always start with bowel cleansing

please. Let me know if I can help, I will pray for you, hope you will pray

for me too!

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Dear Diane,

Here are a few of the things I do.

1. 10,000 to 20,000 mg. of vitamin C in crystal form dissolved in purified

water every day.

2. Plant enzymes (5 in AM) then 2 with each meal.

3. Homeopathic drops for lymph cleansing. check you health food store.

4. Dr. Schulze's bowel cleanse sys. But there are many good ones,,check

health food store.

5. Lot's of pure purified or distilled water. 10 to 20 glasses a day.

6. Lot's of organic or fresh raw fruits and vegetables. Juice carrots at

least 4 a day.

7. Sleep from 10 PM until at least 5 am each day.

8. Get rid of stress and negative people in your life.

9. Give it to the Lord, and stop worrying. Meditate and pray. Lot's of

deep breathing before each meal and before bed.

10. No alcohol or tobacco of course.

11. Wear cotton underwear with no underwire.

12. exercise everyday. I walk and use a rebounder little trampoline.

13. Laugh a lot.

Let me know if this helps, and I will tell more as you are ready.

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Diane,

I have been treating myself with the help of great Dr. for 6 months. I feel

great and never looked better. So we can take this journey together. I have

a several friends in Calif. that have helped me and have been doing this

longer with great success. You can do it. It is a new commitment to life.

I do also take a lot of herbs, I take Sunrider mostly and Superfoods from Dr.

Schulze along with his bowel cleanse. You can call or email Jeannie

with Sunrider for advice she is great. She is at JeannieW44@... or call

818-760-7073.

My Dr. believes you must find the cause or no matter how much chemo and

radiation you throw at it, it will come back. So look for the causes, there

is always many not just one. Dr. Cowden's book will list the 31 things to

check. I almost forgot parasites are usually always present, so do a

parasite cleanse ASAP. Do you have a good health food store anywhere close?

I also use colonic or super enemas. So as I said I will try not to overwhelm

you, but get started.

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Thanks TBa.

What's apricot seeds and laietril? I am admittedly new at all this.

Thanks,

Diane

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>dear Diane;

> sorry to hear about your mom.hope i can be a little help and relieve

>some of your suffering.i have been through the chemo and radiation before

>surgery.would not take it after and went with the apricot seeds and

>laietril.have not gotten down and think the good Lord he has something else

>for me.feel tired a lot but not sick.have known relatives and friends that

>took the chem and it wasn't pretty.think radiation may be necessary to a

>small degree but not chemo.[ that is the drs.big money maker].

>there is a lot of alternatives to look at so ask God to help make the right

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Dear Ann,

Thanks for the book suggestions, etc. I wil go out and see if amazon has

them. No bookstore here.

How long have you been using natural methods, and when were you first

diagnosed if I may ask? Also how has your success been???

And yes of course, I will pray for you, and thank you for your prayers.

Love, and blessings,

Diane

At 11:31 PM 5/24/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: Jab44419@...

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>Dear Diane:

>I have the same thing and am treating it naturally. There are many books on

>what to do, like what to eat, juicing, cleansing, clean up dental work,

>remove stress and worry. Many are great sources. I recommend " Cancer Battle "

>to start with, it is written in lay terms. You will find guidance from

there

>to go further. There are great resources in the Internet. Look up Dr.

>Schulze's cleanses. If you can find the book called " The Definitive Guide

to

>Cancer " by Goldberg and Dr. Cowden read the 31 causes of Cancer. Start

>cleaning up the ones that apply to you. Always start with bowel cleansing

>please. Let me know if I can help, I will pray for you, hope you will pray

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Go to www.worldwithoutcancer.com for info on apricot kernels and laetrile.

Make sure if you decide to use laetrile that you follow the protocol listed,

as diet and enzymes are very important. I can send you a book on laetrile if

you would like. Email me at cure@....

Melinda

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>From: Diane Naasz <dianelnl@...>

>

>Thanks TBa.

>

>What's apricot seeds and laietril? I am admittedly new at all this.

>

>Thanks,

>Diane

>

>At 09:19 PM 5/24/99 EDT, you wrote:

>>From: TBa6529404@...

>>

>>dear Diane;

>> sorry to hear about your mom.hope i can be a little help and relieve

>>some of your suffering.i have been through the chemo and radiation before

>>surgery.would not take it after and went with the apricot seeds and

>>laietril.have not gotten down and think the good Lord he has something

else

>>for me.feel tired a lot but not sick.have known relatives and friends that

>>took the chem and it wasn't pretty.think radiation may be necessary to a

>>small degree but not chemo.[ that is the drs.big money maker].

>>there is a lot of alternatives to look at so ask God to help make the

right

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Are you talking about tumor of the pancreas?? - This sometimes is in the

duct. If so, my husband is going thru the same thing....had surgery 4/9

complete removal. But radiation and chemo is still recommended. Started

5/17. He is in such good health and recovered from surgery great. I've

always been an advocate of the alternatives and have had success, but with a

life threatening disease, ...... I know about many alternatives, but don't

know which one. We pray alot for guidance and have been also going to a

chiro/nutritionist with MD on staff as a complementary treatment. We are

also going to yoga and meditation. (not religiously oriented, but will

assist with spirituality.)

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dear Diane;

sorry to hear about your mom.hope i can be a little help and relieve

some of your suffering.i have been through the chemo and radiation before

surgery.would not take it after and went with the apricot seeds and

laietril.have not gotten down and think the good Lord he has something else

for me.feel tired a lot but not sick.have known relatives and friends that

took the chem and it wasn't pretty.think radiation may be necessary to a

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Diane,

There is a good mail order company for vitamins called Bronson. Here is the

number 800-235-3200. It is cheaper than most stores and not a mlm so you do

not have to join anything. I still recommend Sunrider for herbs even though

it is mlm it is free to join and they grow and control all their herb

production. I do agree with one other writer that bowel cleaning and mind

cleaning is key factor in healing.

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Thanks Melinda.

At 08:55 PM 5/24/99 -0700, you wrote:

>From: " Melinda Wiman " <wiman@...>

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>Go to www.worldwithoutcancer.com for info on apricot kernels and laetrile.

>Make sure if you decide to use laetrile that you follow the protocol listed,

>as diet and enzymes are very important. I can send you a book on laetrile if

>you would like. Email me at cure@....

>

>

>Melinda

>www.cancure.org

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>

> Re: [ ] (no subject)

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>

>>From: Diane Naasz <dianelnl@...>

>>

>>Thanks TBa.

>>

>>What's apricot seeds and laietril? I am admittedly new at all this.

>>

>>Thanks,

>>Diane

>>

>>At 09:19 PM 5/24/99 EDT, you wrote:

>>>From: TBa6529404@...

>>>

>>>dear Diane;

>>> sorry to hear about your mom.hope i can be a little help and relieve

>>>some of your suffering.i have been through the chemo and radiation before

>>>surgery.would not take it after and went with the apricot seeds and

>>>laietril.have not gotten down and think the good Lord he has something

>else

>>>for me.feel tired a lot but not sick.have known relatives and friends that

>>>took the chem and it wasn't pretty.think radiation may be necessary to a

>>>small degree but not chemo.[ that is the drs.big money maker].

>>>there is a lot of alternatives to look at so ask God to help make the

>right

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Thanks JA! Lots of info.. :))))

At 11:49 PM 5/24/99 EDT, you wrote:

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>Dear Diane,

>Here are a few of the things I do.

>1. 10,000 to 20,000 mg. of vitamin C in crystal form dissolved in purified

>water every day.

>2. Plant enzymes (5 in AM) then 2 with each meal.

>3. Homeopathic drops for lymph cleansing. check you health food store.

>4. Dr. Schulze's bowel cleanse sys. But there are many good ones,,check

>health food store.

>5. Lot's of pure purified or distilled water. 10 to 20 glasses a day.

>6. Lot's of organic or fresh raw fruits and vegetables. Juice carrots at

>least 4 a day.

>7. Sleep from 10 PM until at least 5 am each day.

>8. Get rid of stress and negative people in your life.

>9. Give it to the Lord, and stop worrying. Meditate and pray. Lot's of

>deep breathing before each meal and before bed.

>10. No alcohol or tobacco of course.

>11. Wear cotton underwear with no underwire.

>12. exercise everyday. I walk and use a rebounder little trampoline.

>13. Laugh a lot.

>Let me know if this helps, and I will tell more as you are ready.

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Thanks again Ann.

No I don't have much of a health food store here. Our nearest one is 300

miles away that has any size to it, but am finding lots on the web.

I agree in finding the cause. I'm reading " No Safe Place " by

Crawford, and feel much of mine is emotional things I've stored up for

years, and manifested. Also am re-reading Louise , " You Can Heal Your

Life. " It seems to me that a lot fo this is changing old mental patterns,

as well as diet, etc. I also have a friend who was diagnosed with

testicular cancer 4 years ago, and all he did was not accept it as part of

his reality. He is also deeply spiritual, which I am sure helped. He is

cancer free. I guess there are as many treatments as ther eare humans,

which makes this all so fascinating.

Thanks again for all of you help.

Diane

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>Diane,

>I have been treating myself with the help of great Dr. for 6 months. I feel

>great and never looked better. So we can take this journey together. I

have

>a several friends in Calif. that have helped me and have been doing this

>longer with great success. You can do it. It is a new commitment to life.

>I do also take a lot of herbs, I take Sunrider mostly and Superfoods from

Dr.

>Schulze along with his bowel cleanse. You can call or email Jeannie

>with Sunrider for advice she is great. She is at JeannieW44@... or call

>818-760-7073.

>My Dr. believes you must find the cause or no matter how much chemo and

>radiation you throw at it, it will come back. So look for the causes, there

>is always many not just one. Dr. Cowden's book will list the 31 things to

>check. I almost forgot parasites are usually always present, so do a

>parasite cleanse ASAP. Do you have a good health food store anywhere

close?

>I also use colonic or super enemas. So as I said I will try not to

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Not sure who the question was to Carol???

We were talking about breast cancer here I think? My mother just passed

away from it in Jan. of this year, and I was just diagnosed with it this

past Friday...

Diane

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>Are you talking about tumor of the pancreas?? - This sometimes is in the

>duct. If so, my husband is going thru the same thing....had surgery 4/9

>complete removal. But radiation and chemo is still recommended. Started

>5/17. He is in such good health and recovered from surgery great. I've

>always been an advocate of the alternatives and have had success, but with a

>life threatening disease, ...... I know about many alternatives, but don't

>know which one. We pray alot for guidance and have been also going to a

>chiro/nutritionist with MD on staff as a complementary treatment. We are

>also going to yoga and meditation. (not religiously oriented, but will

>assist with spirituality.)

>

>

>

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> sorry to hear about your mom.hope i can be a little help and relieve

>

>some of your suffering.i have been through the chemo and radiation before

>surgery.would not take it after and went with the apricot seeds and

>laietril.have not gotten down and think the good Lord he has something else

>for me.feel tired a lot but not sick.have known relatives and friends that

>took the chem and it wasn't pretty.think radiation may be necessary to a

>small degree but not chemo.[ that is the drs.big money maker].

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Thanks Irene.

Lots of info there as well...

Diane

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>Check out my regimen at www.chetday.com/irenestory.html. I hope

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Great. Thanks again JA...

At 10:54 PM 5/25/99 EDT, you wrote:

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>There is a good mail order company for vitamins called Bronson. Here is the

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>not have to join anything. I still recommend Sunrider for herbs even though

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I like this discussion. I'm learning more about people's battles

by everyone jumping in to help. I found this book (haven't

started it yet since it's not in my reality) that I think would

be helpful to anyone considering chemo.

Questioning Chemotherapy : A Critique of the Use of Toxic Drugs

in the Treatment of Cancer by Ralph W. Moss.

If it's anything like Mr. Moss's previous writings, it has to be

excellent.

And one more thing. My herbalist said that the mental power

behind any treatment is as important as the treatment itself. If

you believe that a treatment/regimen/course of action will or

won't work ... you're right.

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Out of my mind...Back in five minutes.

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Thank you for the mention of mental power, I felt if I pushed my husband

into alternative medicine, it wouldn't work, because he was convinced

chemo/rad would prevent a recurrence. But he is taking complimentary

treatments, such as diet and exercise.

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From: " I. King " <vegasrenie@...>

I like this discussion. I'm learning more about people's battles

by everyone jumping in to help. I found this book (haven't

started it yet since it's not in my reality) that I think would

be helpful to anyone considering chemo.

Questioning Chemotherapy : A Critique of the Use of Toxic Drugs

in the Treatment of Cancer by Ralph W. Moss.

If it's anything like Mr. Moss's previous writings, it has to be

excellent.

And one more thing. My herbalist said that the mental power

behind any treatment is as important as the treatment itself. If

you believe that a treatment/regimen/course of action will or

won't work ... you're right.

===

Irene K.

Out of my mind...Back in five minutes.

vegasrenie@...

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Terry

Where did you finally go? I sent you an email, I finally found one LLMd in

SC.

Start taking milk thistle; it helps the liver cleanse itself.

in SW Florida

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Hi List,

I am hearing alotoabout yeast and lyme. Is this a common thing with lyme to

have " yeast issues, " as well? what types of symptoms result from yeast?

Thanks for your help.

Mel

(mom to 4)

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>Hi Helen,

>I am recieving aggressive yeast therapy. Diflucan and or Lamisil everyday,

>plus loads of acidophilus,

>Connie,

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How much of each do you take? I am also considering taking Lamisil but

I hear it is pretty bad for you. JL

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> Hi Helen,

> I am recieving aggressive yeast therapy. Diflucan and or Lamisil everyday,

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> Connie,

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