Re: alternatives to tamoxifen

[Guest guest]

First I would get Joanna Budwigs book and read it and go on her menu for breast

cancer patients, I am not faithful with it fully but I have to tell you the

cottage cheese mixed with flax oil and then whole flax ground up with fruit

gives you energy and all around well being. Organic and juicing is the next

thing I would recommend also this book by Quillan Beating Cancer with

Nutrition should be on everyones list. I opted out of ANY surgery and feel the

best I have ever and I just started IV C and so far so good I was able to do

50grams with no problems. I also do vitamin c on my own they are 4000mg crystals

in 1 tsp in between and I am up to around 15K easily. I try to faithfully do

that daily. Hope this helps you some. Nutrition is so key here.. Frann

heartinstrength wrote:

I had a masectomy Feb '06 and started chemo in March '06. I had two

treatments of DD AC -- whoa, that was enough! I have chosen to stop

the chemo. the onc wants me to go on Tamoxifen as the cancer they

took out was ER +. I am interested in alternatives to the Tam. I am

53 years old. Has anyone gone the alternative route after

mastectomy? I feel in my gut the chemo was enough. I do have a

family history, my mom and three maternal aunts breast cancer. I was

the first to have chemo. They were all postmenopausal. I have not had my period

since Nov 05, so probably will be menopausal this coming Nov.

I am interested in going forward with no side effects and living my

life with JOY and disconnecting from all these crazy medical

experiments. They are dealing with science, trying to replicate

results, when we all know not everyone is the same. My family is not

happy with me, as they want me to follow the dr's suggestions. Help!

Does anyone have any info? I know all about Dr. Day, etc. Just

looking for some average people who have not written a book and

making money off of it that have gone through taking charge of their

health. Anyone out there? Blessings to you all.

[Guest guest]

That's what everyone says but my grand'daughter has been a health conscious

vegetarian all her life and yet she still got breast cancer and I have never

been a healthy eater and smoked and yet i am in better health in my 80's than

her in her 40's, how does that work?

Dorothy

Frann Schwegler wrote:

First I would get Joanna Budwigs book and read it and go on her menu for

breast cancer patients, I am not faithful with it fully but I have to tell you

the cottage cheese mixed with flax oil and then whole flax ground up with fruit

gives you energy and all around well being. Organic and juicing is the next

thing I would recommend also this book by Quillan Beating Cancer with

Nutrition should be on everyones list. I opted out of ANY surgery and feel the

best I have ever and I just started IV C and so far so good I was able to do

50grams with no problems. I also do vitamin c on my own they are 4000mg crystals

in 1 tsp in between and I am up to around 15K easily. I try to faithfully do

that daily. Hope this helps you some. Nutrition is so key here.. Frann

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't be surprised that its the milk cheese and soy..That is what I

believe are the dangers of vegetarian. Vegetable alone are better than what we

put on it.

Lina

That's what everyone says but my grand'daughter has been a health conscious

vegetarian all her life and yet she still got breast cancer and I have never

been a healthy eater and smoked and yet i am in better health in my 80's than

her in her 40's, how does that work?

Dorothy

Frann Schwegler wrote:

First I would get Joanna Budwigs book and read it and go on her menu for

breast cancer patients, I am not faithful with it fully but I have to tell you

the cottage cheese mixed with flax oil and then whole flax ground up with fruit

gives you energy and all around well being. Organic and juicing is the next

thing I would recommend also this book by Quillan Beating Cancer with

Nutrition should be on everyones list. I opted out of ANY surgery and feel the

best I have ever and I just started IV C and so far so good I was able to do

50grams with no problems. I also do vitamin c on my own they are 4000mg crystals

in 1 tsp in between and I am up to around 15K easily. I try to faithfully do

that daily. Hope this helps you some. Nutrition is so key here.. Frann

[Guest guest]

she's not completely, vegetarian, she eats a little poultry and fish, but she

has never eaten junk food and buys mostly organic

Dorothy

kneadlina <kneadlina@...> wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised that its the milk cheese and soy..That is what I

believe are the dangers of vegetarian. Vegetables alone are better than what we

put on it.

Lina

[Guest guest]

When things seem so mysterious...I'd look at the emotions...Why was she so

adept at eating organic? Was she already fearing that she might get cancer?

Its the thought ..in her mind...the fear...that created it....so just as easy

as it was created...can it go away.

Placebos work...faith healing works for some... why .? because the mind

believes it..there is much power to that grey matter.

The harder she was trying to avoid cancer the more the thought of it was in

her head. That is why depression kills..too much negative thought.

Replacing it with fun..love ..laughter...forgiveness..and trust.

I have seen a women with over twenty years of shoulder pain melt away when she

realized that it was over guilt of not moving in with her mom after her father

died.

She had left to marry and live with her husband .

The heaviness or guilt was the memory of her slinging the bags of clothes

over her shoulder when she helped her mother move. She realized that her mother

recovered much quicker on her own and she was better for her decision. She

didn't need to punish herself for it. So her shoulder pain went away...after

holding it for 20 years.

Humans are so good at creating their own problems. I think that realizing how

unreal it is..can reverse her problem

lina

Dorothy wrote:

she's not completely, vegetarian, she eats a little poultry and fish, but she

has never eaten junk food and buys mostly organic

[Guest guest]

it's how she grew up, her mom ate organic and grew up in a vegetarian household.

kneadlina wrote:

why was she so adept at eating organic? Was she already fearing that she might

get cancer?

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> she's not completely, vegetarian, she eats a little poultry and

fish, but she has never eaten junk food and buys mostly organic

>

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[ ] Re: alternatives to tamoxifen

> That's what everyone says but my grand'daughter has been a health conscious

vegetarian all her life and yet she still got breast

> cancer and I have never been a healthy eater and smoked and yet i am in better

health in my 80's than her in her 40's, how does

> that work?

> Dorothy

>

1. You were born at a time where the world had much less poisons in it

and much greater nutrient value in the foods you eat as a child when

your body was building a foundation for life.

2. You received hardly any vaccinations as a child.

3. You did not take antibiotics throughout your childhood.

4. You passed on damaged genes to your daughter due to smoking and poor

eating habits and she passed them on to your grand daughter. She

was at much greater risk fresh out of the womb.

5. Vegetarians tend to eat many junk carbohydrates and processed foods

which feed disease.

6. Excercise was much more common when you were a child.

7. Air pollution was much less when you were young.

8. Foods today are filled with chemicals and drugs.

9. Grains today are stored in silos and subject to huge amounts

of cancer causing mold and mold byproducts and foods in general

are not as fresh as when you were young and they came straight from

the local farms.

10. The use of mammograms and other dangerous diagnostic procedures

today can cause breast cancer. You were not exposed to them back then.

11. Exposure to cell phones, microwaves and other forms of radiation

today is huge.

12. I could go on and on with more points but you get the idea.

Anyway, my point is that cancer is not some mystery. Dig deeper and

things will start to make sense. Also, many smokers die very young

from many kinds of cancer. Just because you lived a long life

does not mean your insides are healthy and well. You would have

felt much better throughout your life without the cigs and perhaps

you may have lived longer as well. You would not have exposed

people around you to second hand smoke which would have

been a positive thing. Most importantly, the health of your genes

would have been greater and the womb your daughter was born in would

have been less toxic and stressful if you eat better and did not

smoke (assuming you did when you were pregnant). Again, this

would have improved the health of your daughter and depending

on how well she lived could have impacted your grand daughter's

health and chances of getting cancer.

Larry