local advanced breast cancer

[Guest guest]

Friends

I am under extreme pressure from the doctors here and in a state of trauma that

I cant describe.

Ive been on the natural cure route for 5 months.

7cm lump that has been diagnosed as " local advanced breast cancer "

with 2 swollen lymph nodes.

(its also ulcerating)

(it grew from 2cm - 7cm in 5 months)

But NO sign of cancer in body anywhere - blood, bone or x-rays.

They say chemo urgently until its smaller - then operate - then more chemo.

My thoughts: (after 5 months of going natural route)

have a round or 2 of chemo to reduce tumor and buy time

while continuing with raising my immune system and stopping all

bacteria/petro chemicals ect going in to my body.

and finding some way out of this WITHOUT chemo

is this a good idea? could it boomerang on me in any way?

do you know of any TOP clinic in Europe that specialise in braest cancer

curing -

with less invasive ways than chemo?

R Lee " what your docters may not tell you about breast cancer "

says Europe is light years ahead of the states with curing braest cancer,

but I cant find links to these clinics!

with love

[Guest guest]

> I am under extreme pressure from the doctors here and in a state of trauma

that I cant describe.

> 7cm lump that has been diagnosed as " local advanced breast cancer "

> with 2 swollen lymph nodes.

renee, have a look at the budwig flaxoil/cottage cheese diet.

there is a site FlaxSeedOil2 that will give you lots of info.

also this link http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/budwig_protocol.html

joe

[Guest guest]

Have you seen these?

England/Europe/UK

Brackendene Clinic, run by Dr. Layman is in Dorset, England.

They carry out metabolic therapy and give B17 IVs. You can contact

him at: Tel. 01202 824109/ Fax 01202 820739.

The Bristol Cancer Help Center in England is run by Dr. R.M. ,

B.Sc., M.B.B.Ch. The clinic opened in 1980. They use diet, immune

stimulators, vitamins, minerals, herbal extracts, Bach flower

remedies, shiatsu, massage, and many creative techniques. Their

website is http://www.bristolcancerhelp.org/ or contact: 0117 980

9500 Fax: 0117 923 9184.

Callebout, M.D. in London, England uses numerous herbs, nutritional

supplements, enzymes, and substances uniquely tailed to fight

cancer, along with a detoxification regime, an overhaul of the

patient's diet, and psychological tips for " health survivorship. "

011 44 207 2 55 2232 or Mobile: 44 7930 336348

Dove Clinic for Integrated Medicine in Hants. They tailor their

tests and treatments to the individual. They may use Laetrile and

Dendritic Cell Therapy to reduce tumor size, C-statin from bindweed

for angiogenesis inhibition, homeopathy, diet and nutrition,

autohemotherapy or intravenous ozone, acupuncture, whole body

negative ionisation, and life style changes/mind/body approaches.

They treat late stage cancers and many chronic diseases. Their

website is http://www.doveclinic.com and they can be reached by

phone at 01962 718 000.

The Issels Cancer Treatment is a 50 year old therapeutic system

originating in Europe. Therapy includes: detoxification, nutritional

support, supplementation of vitamins, minerals and enzymes,

Chelation Therapy, acupuncture, massage therapy, counseling,

Oxygen/Ozone Therapy, vaccines, light therapy, and a truly

integrated approach to treating cancer.

The Park Attwood Clinic in Worcestershire uses a combination of

treatments, including anthroposophical approaches, in conjunction

with conventional medication when needed. They treat a wide range of

illnesses including cardio-vascular diseases, musculo-skeletal

disorders, neurological problems, immunological disorders, and

cancer. Tel: +44 (0) 1299 861444 or Fax: +44 (0) 1299 861375. Full

details at their website www.parkattwood.org.

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Germany

BioPulse Rejuvenation Clinic - The Bio Pulse Clinic in Mexico has

been stopped from using some of the therapies they were using. We

aren't sure about the clinic in Germany.

Bio Med Klinik in Bad Borgzabern is run by E. Dieter Hager, M.D.,

Ph.D., since 1989. They treat cancer as well as other

immunodeficiencies, including chronic fatigue syndrome. They use

many therapies including hormone therapy, hyperthermia,

immunotherapy (ASI/tumor vaccination), thymus peptides, and

electrotherapy (galvanotherapy). Complementary oncology, immunology

and hyperthermia. Contact info: 49 / 63 43 / 7 05 - 0

http://www.biomed-klinik.de/bmgruwo1en.htm

Hartmut Baltin, M.D. between Salzburg and Munich treats cancer,

multiple sclerosis, HIV, and autoimmune diseases. He uses diet,

plant extracts, hyperthermia, ozone, vaccinations, minerals,

vitamins, psychotherapy, surgery, and acupuncture. Tel.: 0049-08052-

4176.

Hufeland Clinic for Holistic Immunotherapy in Bad Mergentheim

Germany uses a treatment based on a well-established concept

developed by Dr. f Issels, which is a holistic approach using

fever therapy, hyperthermia and immunobiological medicine. They

treat most cancers including breast, melanoma, prostate, colon,

kidney, brain, and sarcomas, as well as arteriosclerosis. They also

use colonics, eumetabolic, homeopathic, vitamins, minerals, enzymes,

ozone, oxygen, hydrogen peroxide, chelation, hydrotherapy,

acupuncture, and nutrition. 49 7931/536-0 http://www.hufeland-

klinik.de/Englisch/hufeland_clinic.htm

Dr. Helmut Keller treats cancer as well as multiple sclerosis,

chronic polyarthritis, Crohn's disease, and neurodermatitis using

preventative programs, immune evaluations, vitamins, minerals, and

hyperthermia. Phone: 011-49-9288-5166. We show he has moved to

Stella Maris Clinic in Mexico.

Klinik St. Georg in Bad Aibling, Germany is run by Dr. Douwes. Their

standard cancer protocol is a week of detoxification and the

strengthening of the immune system with diet and nutritional

supplements, followed by two weeks of localized hyperthermia

treatment and low-dose chemotherapy. Best to fax them at 011+49-

8061-498-455 http://www.klinik-st-georg.de/englisch/Frameset.html.

We have received a few complaints about this clinic - Go to our web

page on them for additional information.

Hans Nieper's clinic is in Hanover, north of furt. Although he

is no longer alive, the office is still open and they treat cancer,

multiple sclerosis, arteriosclerosis, coronary disease, amyotrophic

lateral sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, and osteoporosis.

Therapies include eumetabolic therapy, gene repair, beta-carotene,

dialdehydes, squalene-ascorbate, ureylmandelonitrile, laetrile, and

enzymes. (Trying to confirm contact info: 011-49-511-348-08-08 or

Fax: 011-49-511-318417.)

Institute for Immunology and Thymus Research in Bad Harzburg outside

of Hanover is run by Milan C. Pesic, M.D. They have had the best

response with treating the following cancers: lung, bladder, colon,

pancreatic, breast, Hodgkin's, non-Hodgkins, and Kaposi's sarcoma.

They use THX/Thymex-L, a thymus extract for the immune system. Tel.:

0049-5322-960541

Hungary

United Cancer Research Institute, in Budapest is run by Dr. Laszlo

K. Csatary and Eva Csatary. They can be reached via a Fort

Lauderdale phone/fax number: 954-525-3120. This clinic uses a not-

so-new Virus Therapy that they have been researching and developing

for over 30 years. They have patients that are in remission since

their inception. 954-525-3120

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Ireland

The East Clinic in Killaloe in County Clare/Killaloe is run by

Paschal Carmody, M.B., B.Ch., D.C.H., D.Obs. It was established

over 20 years ago. They treat cancer as well as cardiovascular

disease, musculoskeletal, dermatological, hematological, and

neurological disorders. They use immune modulating, live cell

treatment, ozone, hyperthermia, chelation, and nutritional

supplement therapy. Tel: 001 353 61 376349/376206. Fax: 001 353 61

376773.

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Israel

ph Brenner, M.D. has a clinic in Tel-Aviv. He mainly treats

cancer using nutrition, megadoses of vitamins & minerals, laetrile,

iscador, NSAIDs, shark cartilage, neytumorin, carcinomium copmostium

(HEEL), herbs, and acupuncture. Phone: 972-3-5467733 or 972-3-

5467739.

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Italy

Giancarlo Pizza, MD at Sant'Orsola-Malpighi Hospital in Bologna -

Telephone (direct from the U.S.) 01139 0516362478 or fax: 01139

0516362476. Treatment is out-patient at the Clinic. Additional

follow-up both and home and visiting the clinic may be required.

Best results are in renal cancer, but they treat most cancers. They

use specific and non-specific transfer factor; low dose IL-2

injected intralymphatically, interferon, LAK cells (lymphokine

activated killer cells), interferon-alpha, and hormone therapy.

Currently they have a proposed research study on transfer factor as

a form of immunotherapy for advanced metastatic prostate cancer

stage D3. NFAM has a write up on this clinic at

http://www.med.unibo.it.

Portugal

Health Center of Lisbon is run by Serge Jurasunas, ND. It was

established over 15 yrs ago. They treat most cancers, especially

breast, stomach, prostate, colon, pancreas, and brain; as well as

multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson's. The therapies they use include:

Geoxy 132, chitin, Ukraine therapy, bamboo leaf extract, SGE, SOD,

LEM, aloe vera injections, xian tian, propermyl, DMSO, enzymatic,

hematoxilan, live cell, tributyrrate, nucleic acid, and peptides.

00351-1-347-1117

Spain

J. Buxalleu Font in Barcelona treats solid tumors using self-

vaccination with gamma globulin. He has used this therapy since

1965. 0034-93-792-0489

Las Mariposas Clinic in Malaga, Spain - treats any problem with

chronic diseases and degeneration, especially cancer. Their clinic,

as far as we know, is the only clinic in the world that offers a

full refund of all clinical consultation fees to any cancer patient

that is treated by them that does not see any noticeable

improvements within ninety days after following their therapy. Their

program uses HLB - high blood resolution analysis to allow them to

tailor their approach to your specific endogenic (immune) status and

hormonal needs, EAP (Electro-Acupuncture) treatment, and Dr.

Budwig's protocol.

Switzerland

Aeskulup in Brunnen - http://www.aeskulap.com/e/index.htm - has

approaches similar to Klinik St Georg in Germany and they are a well

known clinic in Switzerland. They use Classical homeopathy, neural

therapy, TCM - traditional Chinese medicine, acupuncture,

anthroposophic medicine (mistletoe), fever therapy (hyperpyrexia),

blood-oxygen therapy, ozone therapy, hyperthermia - whole body and

local, galvanotherapy, and more. 41 41 825 48 61or

info@....

CSCT has closed the clinic in Switzerland. Their clinic in Mexico

has also been shut down.

Fred Vogeli is opening a clinic in Switzerland. He uses Hulda

's approaches. Go to www..net or email info@...

for more info.

Lukas Klinik, CH-4144 Arlesheim, Phone: 011-41-61-72-3333. Their

website is http://www.lukasklinik.ch/English/Default1.htm. They use

Mistletoe in their treatment programs. They aim to give special

consideration not only to the physical situation of the sick

individual but also to his or her soul and spirit. The work bases on

the insights gained in anthroposophically extended medicine which

was developed by Rudolf Steiner and Ita Wegman.

Paracelsus Klinik Center for Holistic Medicine and Dentistry

http://www.cancure.org/paracelsus_clinic.htm combines holistic

medicine, naturopathic treatments and biological dentistry. They

work with some clinics in the U.S. In US, contact 508-748-0816.

Serafin Naturheilpraxis AG in Wolfhalden, Switzerland uses Electro-

acupuncture, chiropractic, darkfield microscopy, laser therapy, pain

management, immune system modulations, most natural healing methods

for treating chronic diseases, including cancer. This includes

enzymes, mistletoe, thymus therapy, hyperthermia, and vaccines.

Ph. + 41 (0)71 891 32 40 or fax.+ 41 (0)71 891 32 47

Their website: http://www.serafin.ch/coco.htm or e-mail-address:

cheitz@...

,

here's more clinics outside the U.S. using alternative therapies.

http://www.cancure.org/directory_clinics_outside%20US.htm Here's

clinics in the U.S. using alternative therapies.

http://www.cancure.org/directory_clinics.htm

Chemo isn't going to buy you time. It will make your immune system

worse. If you choose to do it, use ozone with it. It will make the

chemo more effective, and require less chemo that way. Europe is

ahead of the U.S. in alternative treatments. I would find a clinic

from the above list that uses ozone. Better yet get your own

generator and do it yourself. Ozone cured my wife's breast cancer

plus cancer in the liver, kidneys, intestines, and bile duct.

Good Luck ,

Gaylen

>

> Friends

>

> I am under extreme pressure from the doctors here and in a state

of trauma that

> I cant describe.

>

> Ive been on the natural cure route for 5 months.

>

> 7cm lump that has been diagnosed as " local advanced breast cancer "

> with 2 swollen lymph nodes.

> (its also ulcerating)

> (it grew from 2cm - 7cm in 5 months)

>

> But NO sign of cancer in body anywhere - blood, bone or x-rays.

>

> They say chemo urgently until its smaller - then operate - then

more chemo.

>

> My thoughts: (after 5 months of going natural route)

>

> have a round or 2 of chemo to reduce tumor and buy time

>

> while continuing with raising my immune system and stopping all

> bacteria/petro chemicals ect going in to my body.

> and finding some way out of this WITHOUT chemo

>

> is this a good idea? could it boomerang on me in any way?

>

> do you know of any TOP clinic in Europe that specialise in braest

cancer

> curing -

> with less invasive ways than chemo?

>

> R Lee " what your docters may not tell you about breast cancer "

> says Europe is light years ahead of the states with curing braest

cancer,

> but I cant find links to these clinics!

>

> with love

>

[Guest guest]

,

I am a strong believer in being flexible about protocols. If something

isn't working you need to try something else. There are other protocols

such as cesium or ozone or flax oil, try one of them maybe.

For me, I was close to pushing up daisy's so I opted for surgery and chemo.

This route saved my life clearly and I am shrinking my tumours with it. It

may not be the way for you to go with your cancer, as you will have a

different chemo protocol than what my stage 4 colon cancer called for, but

you must try something else.

I am a believer in debulking tumours to the point where your own immune

system can handle it so you might want to consider chemo for a short term.

Chemo comes with awful side effects and in some cases long term damage so I

would not use it unless nothing else has worked and you will not survive

without it.

I also am combining my chemo with all the usual natural protocols, diets and

supplements including the flax oil regimen.

These are my opinions, I hope they will help when weighed with any other

information you might have.

Syd

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>Subject: [ ] local advanced breast cancer

>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:57:29 +0200

>>I am under extreme pressure from the doctors here and in a state of trauma

that I cant describe.

>>Ive been on the natural cure route for 5 months.

>>7cm lump that has been diagnosed as " local advanced breast cancer "

>with 2 swollen lymph nodes.

>(its also ulcerating)

>(it grew from 2cm - 7cm in 5 months)

>>But NO sign of cancer in body anywhere - blood, bone or x-rays.

>>They say chemo urgently until its smaller - then operate - then more

chemo...............<snip>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear and all in this group

Bless your heart, I did what you are doing with the natual route

until it was almost to late. I had a rare form of anal cancer, very

fast growing and doctors said I could be dead in 4 months without

chemo and radiation as the surery didn't get it all. I read books,

stressed and read more, have been into vitamins and herbs since high

school, I was 50, going through menopause and having cancer all at

the same time. Sheesh, what a test.

I was determined to go the natural cure, and held everyone up on my

treatment til a week past the recommened deadline and then I read

something in Dr. Weil's book that turned me around, he said it would

be foolish to deny yourself every opportunity to have a complete

recovery from a fast growing cancer. Then I remembered the story

about the guy who stranded in the flood, denied 2 boats and a

helicopter saying god will save me, god will save me, but when he got

to the pearly gates he said why didn't you save me I prayed and

prayed, god said " I sent you 2 boats and a chopper, what did you

want " ?

I came to terms with the method my god chose for me to do this part

in my life, I am not capable of curing myself of my diseases yet.

Maybe you are, maybe not. I do know that the breast is just over the

lung and and spine, I have a dear friend who died of lung cancer that

started in the breast, she was gone in 3 1/2 months because it was

diagnosed to late.

If it was me my friend I would do whatever I have to do and be as

healthy as possible through it. I have had other cancers, surgeries

on all of them and I would gladly do it all over again for a few more

years, I'm just getting good at this life thing, and the best I've

ever been. All my prayers and blessings, Sandi Lierley