Re: alternative to cancer causing pesticides

[Guest guest]

INTERESTING! This stuff is just Diatomaceous Earth,

which can be purchased at any pool supply for about

$15.00 for a 25 lb bag. Would think it would be the

same....Thanks, will try some of my pool stuff and see

if it works on my ant problem....

--- " bob.wright01 " <bob.wright01@...> wrote:

> I want to pass on my story, my father was diagnosed

> with cancer. It was wrapped in the brain. The

> doctors feel that it was linked with the

> pesticides that he used.

>

> I have found an alternative that WORKS. My father

> died because of the pesticides that are used for

> years. I will not let my children be exposed to the

> same products that took my father.

>

> We use a product that is EPA approved and is 100%

> safe, we buy it on

> pestproductsonline.com it is called DiaSource and

> can be found in the

> organic pest products area. It is 22 dollars and

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

It's plain old DE - Diatomaceous Earth - There are three grades, but not

all of them work on all pests.

Swimming pool grade - works on most pests(beetles, etc,) but not ants.

Food Grade - edible by man or animal (worming), and found in some foods.

Horticultural grade - primarily pests.

Ants usually require Food or Hort. grade mixed with a bait to be

effective in most cases.

Pharaoh Ants are not affected by DE.

Although DE is registered and approved with the EPA as non-toxic, and an

organic, do not be fooled.

All grades, but especially swimming pool graded can be harmful to the

lungs if inhaled.

There are lots of safe and very effective home remedies for insects -

these work better than prepared insecticides.

Boric Acid for roaches (mix with brown sugar for quick attraction)

Iron Phosphate for snails and slugs. (Sluggo, Green Light & others -

check ingredients label)

Sevin Dust for fleas

Chuck

bob.wright01 wrote:

> I want to pass on my story, my father was diagnosed with cancer. It

> was wrapped in the brain. The doctors feel that it was linked with the

> pesticides that he used.

>

> I have found an alternative that WORKS. My father died because of the

> pesticides that are used for years. I will not let my children be

> exposed to the same products that took my father.

>

> We use a product that is EPA approved and is 100% safe, we buy it on

> pestproductsonline.com it is called DiaSource and can be found in the

> organic pest products area. It is 22 dollars and lasts for ever, it

> does not stop working. It is the real thing, some organic products make

> the claims but are not EPA registered.

>

> I challange everyone to put down the poisons and use a safe alternative!

>

> God Bless,

> Bob

>

>

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Do NOT buy diatomaceous Earth at the pool supply, it has added

ingredients. Buy it at the feed store where you can get pure, food

grade DE for $25/50 lb bag. Do not buy it at the gardening center

where you pay through the nose. DE can get wet and when it dries, it still

works. The danger of DE is to your lungs, it will damage them if you inhale the

dust, so a mask is vital when using the stuff. You can eat DE, provided that it

is food grade and it will not hurt you. We feed it to our animals to help them

cope with parasites.

Fire ants don't like cinnamon. This does not kill them, but they do

leave the area. If it is extremely wet and the area you treat is the only high

spot, they will still invade, but most of the time it works very well for

keeping the patio etc clear. It does not poison the earth worms or bacteria in

the soil. DE will harm earth worms.

Fire ant hills can be killed by several applications of urine from

meat eating adult males. The first, early morning urine works

best. This does not harm anything in the soil.

Bright Blessings,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Please be aware that sevin dust will kill bees. Bumble bees are on

the endangered list and sevin is one of the reasons why.

Bright Blessings,

Kim

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know of any termite treatment that is non toxic? Our Centricon

did not work, and my husband is ready to put down some chemicals. Thanks,

Ginni

[Guest guest]

Fire Ants......are a natural termite predator, but that begets another

pest problem.

Outside of that, I've never heard of anything else.

Ginni Cummings wrote:

> Does anyone know of any termite treatment that is non toxic? Our Centricon

> did not work, and my husband is ready to put down some chemicals. Thanks,

> Ginni

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Thanks, I didn't know that. We generally don't kill fire ants at our

place, they have proven to be far too useful. And now, another

reason not to harm them. We just make sure they can't come inside

and keep the outdoor sitting area clear with cinnamon.

If you put cinnamon oil on the soles of your shoes, the fire ants

won't climb on. We also use it on handles of tools etc and it has

really cut down the problems.

Bright Blessings,

Kim

At 11:40 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote:

>Fire Ants......are a natural termite predator, but that begets another pest

problem. Outside of that, I've never heard of anything else. Ginni Cummings

wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

Fire ants are USEFUL? For what?

I suggested earlier as natural predator to termites, but that's only

marginally effective.

If you have small kids in the yard, you surely don't want them around.

They bite, kill, swarm, eat, scar, and cause allergic reactions that

kill people and animals.

And if you have ever been in floodwaters, they float and latch onto you,

and not just to catch a ride, but also for a bite of lunch.

Not sure where you live, but here in the South they are a nuisance, and

are responsible for reducing native populations of critters, birds and

insects that nest in/on the ground. They have no place in my yard -

where's my Amdro or anon?

Chuck

Garth & Kim wrote:

> Greetings,

> Thanks, I didn't know that. We generally don't kill fire ants at our

> place, they have proven to be far too useful. And now, another

> reason not to harm them. We just make sure they can't come inside

> and keep the outdoor sitting area clear with cinnamon.

>

> If you put cinnamon oil on the soles of your shoes, the fire ants

> won't climb on. We also use it on handles of tools etc and it has

> really cut down the problems.

>

> Bright Blessings,

> Kim

>

> At 11:40 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote:

> >Fire Ants......are a natural termite predator, but that begets

> another pest problem. Outside of that, I've never heard of anything

> else. Ginni Cummings wrote:

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Does anyone know of any termite treatment that is non toxic? Our

Centricon

> did not work, and my husband is ready to put down some chemicals.

Thanks,

> Ginni

>

Ginni--

Here is an article which explains how to make an insecticide out of

boric acid. Says it will work on all insects including termites.

http://alsnetbiz.com/homeimprovement/boric_acid.html

I've been wondering if Borax from the grocery store can be used

instead of boric acid. Maybe someone has an answer to that? For

termites it says to mix with propylene glycol. Anyone know where to

buy that?

Thanks, Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Yes, I do live in the South, about 125 miles from the Gulf in

Texas. We have never in our 13 years of owning our place put out any fire ant

killer. Pesticides are part of the health problem, and I am chemically

sensitive. I also have poisonous snakes and other

creatures, I have a farm, live in the country and exist very

peacefully with nature.

Fire ant are a necessity to repair land that has been abused by land

hogs. You know those factory agribusiness jerks that disdain the

name farmer. My land was so hard that earthworms couldn't survive

the summer, so we used fire ants to help aerate the soil and

rebuild. Got the idea from Messina Hof Winery and it really

works. Especially where we had to deal with cotton rot.

We have found them to be very helpful in naturally rebuilding the

soil of our farm, we now have earth worms, but we never would have

got here without the fire ants. A little common sense and we have no problems

with them.

Bright Blessings,

Kim

At 02:47 PM 8/2/2006, you wrote:

Fire ants are USEFUL? For what?

I suggested earlier as natural predator to termites, but that's only

marginally effective.

If you have small kids in the yard, you surely don't want them around. They

bite, kill, swarm, eat, scar, and cause allergic reactions that kill people and

animals.

[Guest guest]

It appears that you can purchase propylene glycol from many sources, do

a search. Propylene glycol is generally regarded as safe for inclusion

in foods, and is odorless and tasteless. Ethylene glycol is the

ingredient found in anti-freeze that is toxic in larger quantities. It

has a very sweet taste to it, practically odorless, thus the attraction

to it by your pets.

However, for termite treatment, the propylene and boric acid must be

infused into the wood, acting both as a preventative for termites and

treatment for wood rot. The termites must bore into the wood to be

killed via consumption, and not as a spread or spray. Both glycols

degrade within a a few weeks with exposure to the elements, so use as a

general termite treatment is not very practical.

fancykat07 wrote:

>

> >

> > Does anyone know of any termite treatment that is non toxic? Our

> Centricon

> > did not work, and my husband is ready to put down some chemicals.

> Thanks,

> > Ginni

> >

>

> Ginni--

>

> Here is an article which explains how to make an insecticide out of

> boric acid. Says it will work on all insects including termites.

>

> http://alsnetbiz.com/homeimprovement/boric_acid.html

> <http://alsnetbiz.com/homeimprovement/boric_acid.html>

>

> I've been wondering if Borax from the grocery store can be used

> instead of boric acid. Maybe someone has an answer to that? For

> termites it says to mix with propylene glycol. Anyone know where to

> buy that?

>

> Thanks, Bonnie

>

>

[Guest guest]

The way I understood it was that Propylene glycol although included in most

foods..is not considered safe By Dr.

I thought Grain Alcohol and ethyl was the safe kind. So I'm imagining that

Ethylene glycol, whatever it is, would be safer than Propylene. I stand to be

corrected.

Lina

You wrote:

It appears that you can purchase propylene glycol from many sources, do a

search. Propylene glycol is generally regarded as safe for inclusion in foods,

and is odorless and tasteless. Ethylene glycol is the ingredient found in

anti-freeze that is toxic in larger quantities. It has a very sweet taste to it,

practically odorless, thus the attraction to it by your pets.