Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Well Elena, that was a mouthful........or should I say a couple of screens full? Urotherapy added to Immunotherapy and the premise sounds promising. Sometimes it doesn't matter that they put the cart before the horse because, like with BCG, the immunotherapy sometimes works. Perhaps the Urotherapy might work.....sometimes. Just to remind some that when I said, 'cart before the horse' it related to the good Doctor's statement: " but the invention of a philosophy of medical explanation that permitted germs to be causative agents of disease " While to some it may be nitpicking, I believe it is such a critical part of the conventional system being wrong, that I cannot buy into it. I don't buy into the " germs to be causative agents of disease " ........unless they begin to qualify it and say, 'germs are a secondary cause' because as the article points out the failure of the immune system, for a number of reasons, including age, is the more important issue. HOWEVER, once the 'secondary cause', the germ has done its dirty work something needs to be done. In the case of Bladders the BCG has a good track record and that is supposedly the 'encouraging of the body's own immune system to kick in. Perhaps Urotherapy will do the same thing. This is why diet changes do not always work and as has brought out, they often do not. That must be because the cancer is too difficult, once established, to simply be 'eaten away' by veggies and fruit. So I fault the medical profession for putting the cart before the horse and blaming a lonely germ........or should I say 'lowly' germ when the real culprit is the immune system but really, the reasons it isn't working. Abuse, chemical assaults, wrong eating, enervation,.....blah blah blah. Thank you Elena for this great piece and please everyone, I may sound like I know what I am speaking about however, it is just my take 'plagiarized' from others over the long years I have been around. Again, perhaps nitpicking.............but IF the cart is really before the horse perhaps if they ride it correctly we will all benefit from the medical machine instead of having to dodge their efforts. Can you imagine the wonder of it all if conventional health practices were working as some of our alternative practitioners and thinking the same way? I will go down believing that the germ must be considered secondary and that is why I believe cancer returns even after being put into remission. If that primary cause, the immune system take over after treatment then we have what often says, " sustained remission " ................and that is what I want. I told my Urologist, I am not interested in 'tumor response'...........I am interested in surviving! Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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